UK Politics IV: Disraeli Gears

[Vassenor]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/07/14/gov_says_new_home_sec_iwilli_have_powers_to_ban_endtoend_encryption/?mt=1468494499944

while brexit is dominating the media this stupid shit is still going through

Interesting you chose a pro-Brexit source to peruse.

>Pro-Brexit source

>Sidebar has at least two articles explicitly urging people to vote Remain

[Souseiseki]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/07/14/gov_says_new_home_sec_iwilli_have_powers_to_ban_endtoend_encryption/?mt=1468494499944

while brexit is dominating the media this stupid shit is still going through

Interesting you chose a pro-Brexit source to peruse.

they are? i hadn't noticed.

[Imperializt Russia]

Interesting you chose a pro-Brexit source to peruse.

>Pro-Brexit source

>Sidebar has at least two articles explicitly urging people to vote Remain

The sidebar featured an article on patent trolls and seemed to explicitly threaten that remaining in the EU would rend the UK open to horrendous patent trolling when a new European patent court and people should vote to prevent that.

I took this to imply people should vote out.

[Hydesland]

https://twitter.com/NobleFrancis/status ... lang=en-gb

[Vassenor]

https://twitter.com/NobleFrancis/status/753605443541491712?lang=en-gb

#justacorrection

[Rufford]

May should have put Boris into the Ministry of Banta -Boris Johnson, Secretary of State for Banta-

[Souseiseki]

http://www.japantoday.com/category/worl ... rpart-says

In Boris Johnson, Britain has appointed a liar with his back against the wall as its new foreign secretary at a time when somebody reliable is needed in the role, his French counterpart Jean-Marc Ayrault said on Thursday.
Johnson campaigned successfully for Britons to vote to leave the European Union last month. In France, a founding EU member, he is seen as a key player in the departure and in the setback to European integration it represents.
“I am not at all worried about Boris Johnson, but… during the campaign he lied a lot to the British people and now it is he who has his back against the wall,” said Ayrault on Europe 1 radio.

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-07- ... sponsible/

Germany's foreign minister has appeared to brand his UK counterpart Boris Johnson as an "irresponsible politician" who "bolted" after Brexit.
"People [in the UK] are experiencing a rude awakening after irresponsible politicians first lured the country into a Brexit to then, once the decision was made, bolt and not take responsibility," Frank-Walter Steinmeier said during a speech at Greifswald University.
"Instead they went to play cricket. To be honest, I find this outrageous but it's not just bitter for Great Britain. It's also bitter for the European Union."
Mr Johnson's appointment as foreign minister in the new UK cabinet has provoked comment around the world, largely as a result of his perceived gaffes, among them comparing the EU to Hitler's Germany.
ITV News' Robert Moore said the appointment has gone down particularly badly in the US.

[Ifreann]

http://www.japantoday.com/category/world/view/boris-johnson-a-liar-with-his-back-against-the-wall-french-counterpart-says

In Boris Johnson, Britain has appointed a liar with his back against the wall as its new foreign secretary at a time when somebody reliable is needed in the role, his French counterpart Jean-Marc Ayrault said on Thursday.
Johnson campaigned successfully for Britons to vote to leave the European Union last month. In France, a founding EU member, he is seen as a key player in the departure and in the setback to European integration it represents.
“I am not at all worried about Boris Johnson, but… during the campaign he lied a lot to the British people and now it is he who has his back against the wall,” said Ayrault on Europe 1 radio.

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-07- ... sponsible/

Germany's foreign minister has appeared to brand his UK counterpart Boris Johnson as an "irresponsible politician" who "bolted" after Brexit.
"People [in the UK] are experiencing a rude awakening after irresponsible politicians first lured the country into a Brexit to then, once the decision was made, bolt and not take responsibility," Frank-Walter Steinmeier said during a speech at Greifswald University.
"Instead they went to play cricket. To be honest, I find this outrageous but it's not just bitter for Great Britain. It's also bitter for the European Union."
Mr Johnson's appointment as foreign minister in the new UK cabinet has provoked comment around the world, largely as a result of his perceived gaffes, among them comparing the EU to Hitler's Germany.
ITV News' Robert Moore said the appointment has gone down particularly badly in the US.

Ol' BoJo may have some challenges ahead of him.

[Souseiseki]

liz fucking truss justice secretary oh my fucking god what are we even doing

[Hydesland]

liz fucking truss justice secretary oh my fucking god what are we even doing

In what way could she be worse than Michael Gove?

[Imperializt Russia]

liz fucking truss justice secretary oh my fucking god what are we even doing

This brings a new meaning to imported cheese and new pork markets.

A window into possible replacements for solitary confinement and overcrowding?

[Vassenor]

So the FTSE 100 closed down fifteen points after crashing sharply around lunchtime.

What time did Hammond announce we're quitting the single market?

[Great Kauthar]

We couldn't have had a better foreign secretary

So the FTSE 100 closed down fifteen points after crashing sharply around lunchtime.

What time did Hammond announce we're quitting the single market?

Still higher than pre-brexit. Besides, FTSE 100 is just the share index of the top 100 companies on the stock exchange.

[Vassenor]

We couldn't have had a better foreign secretary

So the FTSE 100 closed down fifteen points after crashing sharply around lunchtime.

What time did Hammond announce we're quitting the single market?

Still higher than pre-brexit. Besides, FTSE 100 is just the share index of the top 100 companies on the stock exchange.

So when it goes up, it's proof that Brexit is going to turn out OK. When it drops, it's not representative.

[Tobiasia]

We couldn't have had a better foreign secretary


Still higher than pre-brexit. Besides, FTSE 100 is just the share index of the top 100 companies on the stock exchange.

So when it goes up, it's proof that Brexit is going to turn out OK. When it drops, it's not representative.

The FTSE all-share is a better source

[Hydesland]

So the FTSE 100 closed down fifteen points after crashing sharply around lunchtime.

What time did Hammond announce we're quitting the single market?

It was almost certainly due to BoE announcing that they wont be cutting rates (yet) after all.

[Vassenor]

So the FTSE 100 closed down fifteen points after crashing sharply around lunchtime.

What time did Hammond announce we're quitting the single market?

It was almost certainly due to BoE announcing that they wont be cutting rates (yet) after all.

Didn't that cause Sterling to jump though?

[Hydesland]

It was almost certainly due to BoE announcing that they wont be cutting rates (yet) after all.

Didn't that cause Sterling to jump though?

Yup.

[Vassenor]

So when it goes up, it's proof that Brexit is going to turn out OK. When it drops, it's not representative.

The FTSE all-share is a better source

Closed down five after crashing at around the same time.

[Nimzonia]

Boris probably thought he'd spend the next few years rebuilding his popularity, letting someone else deal with Brexit, and having another shot at Prime Minister later when the dust has settled. With this foreign secretary appointment, he's been given enough rope to hang himself and put an end to any chance of that. It's only a matter of time before he cocks it up and makes a giant mess, and this time he won't be able to duck responsibility.

[AiliailiA]

BoJo as Foreign Secretary seems crazy, but in hindsight it makes perfect sense. That's why he didn't contest the leadership.

[Philjia]

Boris probably thought he'd spend the next few years rebuilding his popularity, letting someone else deal with Brexit, and having another shot at Prime Minister later when the dust has settled. With this foreign secretary appointment, he's been given enough rope to hang himself and put an end to any chance of that. It's only a matter of time before he cocks it up and makes a giant mess, and this time he won't be able to duck responsibility.

I think that's not as likely as you'd think, since his remit does not include Brexit or international trade.

[Nimzonia]

Boris probably thought he'd spend the next few years rebuilding his popularity, letting someone else deal with Brexit, and having another shot at Prime Minister later when the dust has settled. With this foreign secretary appointment, he's been given enough rope to hang himself and put an end to any chance of that. It's only a matter of time before he cocks it up and makes a giant mess, and this time he won't be able to duck responsibility.

I think that's not as likely as you'd think, since his remit does not include Brexit or international trade.

I didn't mean to imply he would be responsible for Brexit - I simply meant that his appointment to foreign secretary, a role that pretty much everyone in the world agrees he would be totally disastrous at, looks a bit like Theresa May disposing of a potential leadership rival by giving him a job he will make a total hash of, thereby destroying any remaining credibility he might have.

[Imperializt Russia]

I think that's not as likely as you'd think, since his remit does not include Brexit or international trade.

I didn't mean to imply he would be responsible for Brexit - I simply meant that his appointment to foreign secretary, a role that pretty much everyone in the world agrees he would be totally disastrous at, looks a bit like Theresa May disposing of a potential leadership rival by giving him a job he will make a total hash of, thereby destroying any remaining credibility he might have.

Hence why the Frenchman said he had his back to the wall.

[Arkolon]

BoJo as Foreign Secretary seems crazy, but in hindsight it makes perfect sense. That's why he didn't contest the leadership.

It was more that Gove backstabbed him at the last minute, no?