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So who do we want leading the Labour Party?

Jeremy Corbyn
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48%
Owen Smith
66
22%
Lord Helix
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Total votes : 297

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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:12 am

Wright remains attorney general.

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Postby HMS Vanguard » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:16 am

Valaran wrote:
HMS Vanguard wrote:Brexit means Brexit.



You were just trying to trigger this thread, weren't you :P

I am trying to spread joy and thanksgiving.

Though cowards flinched, and traitors sneered,
We've kept the old flag flying here:

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:17 am

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LMAO

When Sellafield decided to change the name of their reprocessing division to "waste management", they nearly tanked their foreign orders and changed it straight back.

It matters.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:17 am

Should've made Cameron the Scotland Secretary.

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Postby Rufford » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:19 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
LMAO

When Sellafield decided to change the name of their reprocessing division to "waste management", they nearly tanked their foreign orders and changed it straight back.

It matters.

Can't remember what Leadsom is the minister of now, something to do with the environment, but its a stupidly long name.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:20 am

Rufford wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:When Sellafield decided to change the name of their reprocessing division to "waste management", they nearly tanked their foreign orders and changed it straight back.

It matters.

Can't remember what Leadsom is the minister of now, something to do with the environment, but its a stupidly long name.

Environment, Food, & Rural Affairs.

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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:20 am

Angus MacNeil, Chair of the Commons Energy and Climate Change Committee, is pissed off.

The Government has announced that it will abolish the Department of Energy and Climate Change and transfer its functions to other Government Departments, notably the new Department of Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy. The exact details remain unclear. My Committee’s reports have recently identified serious concerns about reduced investor confidence in the UK energy sector. An historic agreement at COP21 in Paris last November still requires ratification, and the fifth carbon budget is still yet to be set in law. While Members of my Committee differed in their views on the European Union, the immediate impact of the vote to leave has been to amplify uncertainty at a time when major investment is needed to deliver affordable, clean and secure energy. In this context, I am astonished at the Prime Minister’s decision to abolish DECC. DECC’s disappearance raises urgent questions. To whom falls the central statutory obligation, contained in the Climate Change Act 2008, to reduce the UK’s carbon emissions by 80% from their 1990 baseline? Which Department will take responsibility for the energy and climate aspects of negotiations to leave the EU? Who will champion decarbonisation in Cabinet? Who will drive innovation in the energy sector? Turning to my Committee and the crucial role we play in scrutinising the Government’s energy and climate change policies, we are established under Standing Orders of the House of Commons. There will be no immediate change to our remit, operations or membership, which can only be done by order of the House. I am immensely proud of our work over the last year to hold the Government to account on achieving a balanced energy policy, setting the agenda on an innovative future energy system, and influencing the Government’s long-term approach to climate targets. Over the coming weeks I will speak to colleagues to explore how we can ensure that effective Parliamentary scrutiny on the crucial issues of energy and climate change continues.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:22 am

She's called herself "Secretary of State for DEFRA" but I didn't think DEFRA had a "secretary of state", so either she's having delusions of grandeur or she bollocksed up reciting her own title.

Environment Minister seems equally appropriate so I assume the former, even if it's technically correct.
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Postby Rufford » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:23 am

Freefall11111 wrote:
Rufford wrote:Can't remember what Leadsom is the minister of now, something to do with the environment, but its a stupidly long name.

Environment, Food, & Rural Affairs.

That really sounds like the most interesting office in history; Environment should be on its own (i thought it was), why has food even got a minister and i've got no problem with rural affairs.
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Postby Questers » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:24 am

Boris is going to do a good job.

It's a crying shame there aren't politicians of this calibre in Labour.

Sure they don't act a bit eccentrically. But they're to a number almost all fucking useless tools.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:24 am

Rufford wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:Environment, Food, & Rural Affairs.

That really sounds like the most interesting office in history; Environment should be on its own (i thought it was), why has food even got a minister and i've got no problem with rural affairs.

It's in charge of all of the following.
Adaptation to global warming
Agriculture
Air quality
Animal health and animal welfare
Biodiversity
Conservation
Chemical substances and pesticides
Fisheries
Flooding
Food
Forestry
Hunting
Inland waterways
Land management
Marine policy
National parks
Noise
Plant health
Rural development
Sustainable development
Waste management
Water management


Essentially anything remotely "biological", you could say.

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Postby Rufford » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:26 am


Next time that French person comes on here, i'm gonna apologize to him in advance on behalf of Boris and the offence he will cause.
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Postby Questers » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:28 am

not as good for the "department of the regions" (whose responsibilities were merged into Defra iirc)

i still dont know what "the regions" fucking are
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Postby Rufford » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:32 am

Questers wrote:not as good for the "department of the regions" (whose responsibilities were merged into Defra iirc)

i still dont know what "the regions" fucking are

Just like Brexit secretary and whatever Liam Fox is reduces Boris's job to insulting world leaders.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:32 am

Farron piles on.

Even if everything the DECC does is continued under other departments, this seems like a horrible PR move. I can already see ads along the lines of "the Tories care so little for the environment they axed the climate change department".

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Postby Questers » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:32 am

Rufford wrote:
Questers wrote:not as good for the "department of the regions" (whose responsibilities were merged into Defra iirc)

i still dont know what "the regions" fucking are

Just like Brexit secretary and whatever Liam Fox is reduces Boris's job to insulting world leaders.

no like literally what's a fucking region
the uk is a fucking region
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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:33 am

Questers wrote:
Rufford wrote:Just like Brexit secretary and whatever Liam Fox is reduces Boris's job to insulting world leaders.

no like literally what's a fucking region
the uk is a fucking region

Regions.

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Postby The Nihilistic view » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:33 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
LMAO

When Sellafield decided to change the name of their reprocessing division to "waste management", they nearly tanked their foreign orders and changed it straight back.

It matters.


What does the foreign orders of a commercial arm of such a body have to do with the name of a government department? The government is not selling anything here.
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Postby HMS Vanguard » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:33 am

Oiks who don't live in London.

I imagine it was abolished because someone realised that the allotments didn't have their own minister.
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Postby HMS Vanguard » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:34 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:When Sellafield decided to change the name of their reprocessing division to "waste management", they nearly tanked their foreign orders and changed it straight back.

It matters.


What does the foreign orders of a commercial arm of such a body have to do with the name of a government department? The government is not selling anything here.

It looks like Sellafield still sells waste management: http://www.sellafieldsites.com/solution ... anagement/

But in a wider sense, it does matter. The government has signalled that, in the future, energy policy will be about enabling the production of energy, rather than impeding the production of energy.
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Postby Questers » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:39 am

HMS Vanguard wrote:Oiks who don't live in London.
London is to Great Britain what Tumblr is to the Internet.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:40 am

HMS Vanguard wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
What does the foreign orders of a commercial arm of such a body have to do with the name of a government department? The government is not selling anything here.

It looks like Sellafield still sells waste management: http://www.sellafieldsites.com/solution ... anagement/

But in a wider sense, it does matter. The government has signalled that, in the future, energy policy will be about enabling the production of energy, rather than impeding the production of energy.

Of course, I'm talking a decade or two ago with that anecdote, but the point was of course that name matters.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:41 am

Questers wrote:
HMS Vanguard wrote:Oiks who don't live in London.
London is to Great Britain what Tumblr is to the Internet.

I don't think the internet is as dependent on Tumblr as the UK is on London.

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Postby HMS Vanguard » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:42 am

I feel like a new day has dawned on this country.

For mighty are the auxiliars which now stand
Upon our side, we who are strong in love!
Bliss is it in this dawn to be alive,
But to be young is very heaven!--Oh! times,
In which the meagre, stale, forbidding ways
Of custom, law, and statute, took at once
The attraction of a country in romance!
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