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So who do we want leading the Labour Party?

Jeremy Corbyn
142
48%
Owen Smith
66
22%
Lord Helix
89
30%
 
Total votes : 297

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Postby Valaran » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:40 am

Alvecia wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:Wikileaks just leaked a US diplomatic cable. Take a look.

Why the focus on his sex life? Never understood that angle in politics.



That's more of an aside, isn't it?
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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:41 am

Rudd is walking around Westminster talking to the Met's chief and this is called a "patrol".

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:42 am

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Just a bit of banter, America.

Apparently Boris hates Trump.

Random factoid I found while reading some of the thesis length articles folks are posting here.

Jealous of his hair no doubt.

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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:42 am

Grayling is now Transport Secretary.

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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:45 am

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Parti Ouvrier wrote:Where did you get this rumour? I really don't understand why she'd close those departments either.

Well, BIS isn't being closed, it's being turned into Business, Energy and Industry, and is therefore replacing both BIS and DECC.

Makes sense from May's point of view, however, it shows a lack of concern about climate change.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:45 am

Looks like Leadsom is going to get something.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:46 am

Parti Ouvrier wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Well, BIS isn't being closed, it's being turned into Business, Energy and Industry, and is therefore replacing both BIS and DECC.

Makes sense from May's point of view, however, it shows a lack of concern about climate change.

As was addressed earlier, May's voting history may constitute climate denial.
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Postby Valaran » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:46 am

Freefall11111 wrote:Looks like Leadsom is going to get something.



But nothing as much as she hoped for. Which is good :3
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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:47 am

More polls emerging.

On whether you expect Theresa May will do well/badly as Prime Minister:
Well: 46%
Badly: 24%

David Cameron has been Prime Minister for six years. Britain is now a (X) to live in:
Better country: 23%
Worse country: 44%

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Postby Val Halla » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:49 am

Valaran wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:Looks like Leadsom is going to get something.



But nothing as much as she hoped for. Which is good :3

Yeah I don't think she is going to be entirely competent.

Freefall11111 wrote:More polls emerging.

On whether you expect Theresa May will do well/badly as Prime Minister:
Well: 46%
Badly: 24%

David Cameron has been Prime Minister for six years. Britain is now a (X) to live in:
Better country: 23%
Worse country: 44%

46% of people are in for a shock
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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:49 am

Valaran wrote:
Valaran wrote:
So? I'm failing to see the problem of a) having doubts and b) this undermining his views.


Since Parti Ouvrier didn't reply in a whole 9 minutes, does this mean he is also crippled by doubts :P

So? Is a question now. :p And yes, I have doubts sometimes, I don't trust people who give the artificial appearance of being certain. Such people are fakes.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:49 am

Freefall11111 wrote:More polls emerging.

On whether you expect Theresa May will do well/badly as Prime Minister:
Well: 46%
Badly: 24%

David Cameron has been Prime Minister for six years. Britain is now a (X) to live in:
Better country: 23%
Worse country: 44%

Assuming these were from the same poll by the same respondents, it sounds as though the entirety of those polled just wanted change or something moderately different.
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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:49 am

Valaran wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:Looks like Leadsom is going to get something.



But nothing as much as she hoped for. Which is good :3

Is business secretary still open?
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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:50 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:More polls emerging.

On whether you expect Theresa May will do well/badly as Prime Minister:
Well: 46%
Badly: 24%

David Cameron has been Prime Minister for six years. Britain is now a (X) to live in:
Better country: 23%
Worse country: 44%

Assuming these were from the same poll by the same respondents, it sounds as though the entirety of those polled just wanted change or something moderately different.

I have my doubts that Owen Smith or Eagle could win an election in 2020. ;)
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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:52 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:More polls emerging.

On whether you expect Theresa May will do well/badly as Prime Minister:
Well: 46%
Badly: 24%

David Cameron has been Prime Minister for six years. Britain is now a (X) to live in:
Better country: 23%
Worse country: 44%

Assuming these were from the same poll by the same respondents, it sounds as though the entirety of those polled just wanted change or something moderately different.

It should be noted these figures aren't too dissimilar compared to Tony Blair leaving office: 27% of Britons thought the country was better off, 48% worse.

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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:52 am

Coraspia wrote:
Valaran wrote:

But nothing as much as she hoped for. Which is good :3

Is business secretary still open?

Yes.

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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:52 am

Freefall11111 wrote:More polls emerging.

On whether you expect Theresa May will do well/badly as Prime Minister:
Well: 46%
Badly: 24%

David Cameron has been Prime Minister for six years. Britain is now a (X) to live in:
Better country: 23%
Worse country: 44%

I think it's too early to say.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:53 am

Freefall11111 wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Assuming these were from the same poll by the same respondents, it sounds as though the entirety of those polled just wanted change or something moderately different.

It should be noted these figures aren't too dissimilar compared to Tony Blair leaving office: 27% of Britons thought the country was better off, 48% worse.

The current leader is always the worst.
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:53 am

Ifreann wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:Apparently Boris hates Trump.

Random factoid I found while reading some of the thesis length articles folks are posting here.

Jealous of his hair no doubt.

Trump is encroaching on Boris's clown territory. He doesn't like the competition.

Freefall11111 wrote:
Coraspia wrote:Is business secretary still open?

Yes.

Congratulations Coraspia you're hired.

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Postby Val Halla » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:54 am

Freefall11111 wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Assuming these were from the same poll by the same respondents, it sounds as though the entirety of those polled just wanted change or something moderately different.

It should be noted these figures aren't too dissimilar compared to Tony Blair leaving office: 27% of Britons thought the country was better off, 48% worse.

Tbf I think the country is in a long downward spiral and I doubt anyone can make is better any time soon.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:54 am

Val Halla wrote:46% of people are in for a shock


Perhaps. Though we will see. I suspect with Labour in the mess that it is (thank you Corbyn), the Conservatives will dominate for some time.

Going back to Corbyn. I originally hated the man and was dismayed at his victory. But considering the last few months I have to say I'm glad he's the leader and here's to hoping he stays for years to come.

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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:55 am

Damian Green is Work and Pensions Secretary.

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Postby Val Halla » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:55 am

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Val Halla wrote:46% of people are in for a shock


Perhaps. Though we will see. I suspect with Labour in the mess that it is (thank you Corbyn), the Conservatives will dominate for some time.

Going back to Corbyn. I originally hated the man and was dismayed at his victory. But considering the last few months I have to say I'm glad he's the leader and here's to hoping he stays for years to come.

Labour was in a mess long before Corbyn came.
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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:56 am

Val Halla wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:It should be noted these figures aren't too dissimilar compared to Tony Blair leaving office: 27% of Britons thought the country was better off, 48% worse.

Tbf I think the country is in a long downward spiral and I doubt anyone can make is better any time soon.

It looks like we're heading for a recession.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/credit-su ... ent-2016-7
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