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Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:54 am**

Val Halla wrote:LibDems say they will block the raising ot tuition fees.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-36856026

They should actually do something this time.

In as much as they can actually do that with just nine MPs.

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:54 am**

Crossposting.

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Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:55 am**

Val Halla wrote:LibDems say they will block the raising ot tuition fees.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-36856026

They should actually do something this time.

It would had been better if they decided to shut up, all this reminds people is of that time when they had the numbers to prevent a tuition fee rise they didn't.

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:56 am**

Vassenor wrote:
Val Halla wrote:LibDems say they will block the raising ot tuition fees.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-36856026

They should actually do something this time.

In as much as they can actually do that with just nine MPs.

Well if they're forcing a vote on it they can. However, I doubt it'll succeed, considering the whole Tory majority thing

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:57 am**

Wolfmanne2 wrote:
Val Halla wrote:LibDems say they will block the raising ot tuition fees.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-36856026

They should actually do something this time.

It would had been better if they decided to shut up, all this reminds people is of that time when they had the numbers to prevent a tuition fee rise they didn't.

I think that's one of the main reasons the lib dems are where they are right no, so I doubt everyone has forgotten

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:58 am**

Wolfmanne2 wrote:
Val Halla wrote:LibDems say they will block the raising ot tuition fees.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-36856026

They should actually do something this time.

It would had been better if they decided to shut up, all this reminds people is of that time when they had the numbers to prevent a tuition fee rise they didn't.

It's just a little bit late for the principle boomerang to return.

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:04 am**

Ostroeuropa wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:Just as 'fucking hilarious', no doubt, as tying bacon to a synagogue.

Yes. That is likewise hilarious. Problem is that our media and institutions are obsessed with preventing mockery of Islam, so the jokes have to be done by "grafitti" of sorts rather than in person.

Zombie Jesus is also funny.

Tying bacon to a synagogue or a mosque isn't funny. There's no joke there. Zombie Jesus is funny because it's an actual joke.

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:06 am**

Conscentia wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:Yes. That is likewise hilarious. Problem is that our media and institutions are obsessed with preventing mockery of Islam, so the jokes have to be done by "grafitti" of sorts rather than in person.

Zombie Jesus is also funny.

Tying bacon to a synagogue or a mosque isn't funny. There's no joke there. Zombie Jesus is funny because it's an actual joke.

How about piss-christ?

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:08 am**

Val Halla wrote:LibDems say they will block the raising ot tuition fees.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-36856026

They should actually do something this time.

Can they do that with 8 MPs?

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:12 am**

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Val Halla wrote:LibDems say they will block the raising ot tuition fees.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-36856026

They should actually do something this time.

Can they do that with 8 MPs?

I'm going to assume "force a vote" means something will happen.

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:14 am**

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Conscentia wrote:Tying bacon to a synagogue or a mosque isn't funny. There's no joke there. Zombie Jesus is funny because it's an actual joke.

How about piss-christ?

This? It's not funny, and was not intended to be funny. It's a pretentious work of art. According to it's Wiki page, it's not even a criticism of Christianity so it's not like it furthers your argument to mention it.

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:16 am**

Who is that bloke, who looks like a short fat Russell Brand, who is always lurking in the background near Jeremy Corbyn?

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:25 am**

Frank Zipper wrote:Who is that bloke, who looks like a short fat Russell Brand, who is always lurking in the background near Jeremy Corbyn?

photo?

I suspect it is mentor, Zeg Frat Beezbub Frant Fatang

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:26 am**

Frank Zipper wrote:Who is that bloke, who looks like a short fat Russell Brand, who is always lurking in the background near Jeremy Corbyn?

Do you mean Ben Chacko? He's editor of the Morning Star and always seems to be near Corbyn.

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:55 am**

Frank Zipper wrote:Who is that bloke, who looks like a short fat Russell Brand, who is always lurking in the background near Jeremy Corbyn?

Its clearly Sidious the Dark lord of the Sith, ensuring his apprentice goes forward with his plans.

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:17 am**

Britanno 2 wrote:
Frank Zipper wrote:Who is that bloke, who looks like a short fat Russell Brand, who is always lurking in the background near Jeremy Corbyn?

Do you mean Ben Chacko? He's editor of the Morning Star and always seems to be near Corbyn.

Thanks, so that is who he is.

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:56 am**

https://archive.is/YASrX

75% of news reports dealing with Corbyn are counter-factual.

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:49 am**

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36853952

Seems the French president isn't keen on our new PMs approach to preparing before brexit, trying to use the situation to impact his reelection chances. So much for him being a socialist, or believing in European unity, unless he belives in a more Stalinist form of socialism. We may end up negotiating with a right wing French president, who would be more likley to cooperate with us.

Of course, he still wants us to cooperate on defence. I have to wonder if they worry about the possibility of having to face Russia without UK support, and if our government plan to use that during negotiations... :twisted:

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:55 am**

Dooom35796821595 wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36853952

Seems the French president isn't keen on our new PMs approach to preparing before brexit, trying to use the situation to impact his reelection chances. So much for him being a socialist, or believing in European unity, unless he belives in a more Stalinist form of socialism. We may end up negotiating with a right wing French president, who would be more likley to cooperate with us.

Of course, he still wants us to cooperate on defence. I have to wonder if they worry about the possibility of having to face Russia without UK support, and if our government plan to use that during negotiations...

Yes, how dare he not just roll over and do whatever we want.

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:58 am**

Dooom35796821595 wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36853952

Seems the French president isn't keen on our new PMs approach to preparing before brexit, trying to use the situation to impact his reelection chances. So much for him being a socialist, or believing in European unity, unless he belives in a more Stalinist form of socialism. We may end up negotiating with a right wing French president, who would be more likley to cooperate with us.

Of course, he still wants us to cooperate on defence. I have to wonder if they worry about the possibility of having to face Russia without UK support, and if our government plan to use that during negotiations...

UK isn't that vital for fighting Russia, the US is but UK not so much.

why should he give a toss what we (or rather, the people who voted to leave) want?

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:01 am**

Elepis wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36853952

Seems the French president isn't keen on our new PMs approach to preparing before brexit, trying to use the situation to impact his reelection chances. So much for him being a socialist, or believing in European unity, unless he belives in a more Stalinist form of socialism. We may end up negotiating with a right wing French president, who would be more likley to cooperate with us.

Of course, he still wants us to cooperate on defence. I have to wonder if they worry about the possibility of having to face Russia without UK support, and if our government plan to use that during negotiations...

UK isn't that vital for fighting Russia, the US is but UK not so much.

why should he give a toss what we (or rather, the people who voted to leave) want?

Because supposedly our buying French wine is the only thing keeping their economy going. So clearly it's in their best interests to give us a trade deal we like.

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:04 am**

Vassenor wrote:
Elepis wrote:
UK isn't that vital for fighting Russia, the US is but UK not so much.

why should he give a toss what we (or rather, the people who voted to leave) want?

Because supposedly our buying French wine is the only thing keeping their economy going. So clearly it's in their best interests to give us a trade deal we like.

Or a trade deal that works for both countries instead of putting political infighting ahead of their national interests.

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:14 am**

Elepis wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36853952

Seems the French president isn't keen on our new PMs approach to preparing before brexit, trying to use the situation to impact his reelection chances. So much for him being a socialist, or believing in European unity, unless he belives in a more Stalinist form of socialism. We may end up negotiating with a right wing French president, who would be more likley to cooperate with us.

Of course, he still wants us to cooperate on defence. I have to wonder if they worry about the possibility of having to face Russia without UK support, and if our government plan to use that during negotiations...

UK isn't that vital for fighting Russia, the US is but UK not so much.

why should he give a toss what we (or rather, the people who voted to leave) want?

the UK is second only to turkey in places that are really really really insanely important in fighting russia

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:23 am**

Elepis wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36853952

Seems the French president isn't keen on our new PMs approach to preparing before brexit, trying to use the situation to impact his reelection chances. So much for him being a socialist, or believing in European unity, unless he belives in a more Stalinist form of socialism. We may end up negotiating with a right wing French president, who would be more likley to cooperate with us.

Of course, he still wants us to cooperate on defence. I have to wonder if they worry about the possibility of having to face Russia without UK support, and if our government plan to use that during negotiations...

UK isn't that vital for fighting Russia, the US is but UK not so much.

why should he give a toss what we (or rather, the people who voted to leave) want?

Because UK is a super special snowflake and needs a snowflake deal, and not rolling over and giving that deal is clearly bullying.

Posted: **Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:30 am**

Souseiseki wrote:
Elepis wrote:
UK isn't that vital for fighting Russia, the US is but UK not so much.

why should he give a toss what we (or rather, the people who voted to leave) want?

the UK is second only to turkey in places that are really really really insanely important in fighting russia

UK's not that much. Russia would never attack France as they have nukes (more than us) and would never attack NATO anyway with the US. Sure UK helps but we are not absolutely vital.

And if Russia wanted to invade Europe, UK standing there wouldn't stop them

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