UK Politics IV: Disraeli Gears

[Questers]

This thread will be humourless without HMSV.

We'll have to provoke more Lamadia-Elepsis fights.

[Chestaan]

You've just gone on and on about how you've set yourself apart from people and that because you found it easy then so should everyone else. I then pointed out that doing well in school has nothing to do with setting yourself apart in work, i.e you have not set yourself apart from others in the job market hence you have no idea how hard or easy it is.

And no, work experience or part time jobs are not the same as finding a long term stable job that will provide you with enough money to support your family.

I was also talking in the context of the job offers I got, I got them so.

What job offers? Full time job offers? Enough to allow you to pay off a mortgage and feed a reasonably sized family?

[Wolfmanne2]

I was also talking in the context of the job offers I got, I got them so.

What job offers? Full time job offers? Enough to allow you to pay off a mortgage and feed a reasonably sized family?

I'm fucking 17.

[Hydesland]

The poor should be humanely destroyed.

We all know where this is going, so let's just save some time.

[Chestaan]

What job offers? Full time job offers? Enough to allow you to pay off a mortgage and feed a reasonably sized family?

I'm fucking 17.

That's my point! Not your age specifically, but you haven't been in the same circumstances as those who have been looking for full time jobs, so it's impossible for you to realise how hard it can be to get a job in such circumstances.

[Wolfmanne2]

I'm fucking 17.

That's my point! Not your age specifically, but you haven't been in the same circumstances as those who have been looking for full time jobs, so it's impossible for you to realise how hard it can be to get a job in such circumstances.

Part-time work, flexible work etc. I didn't specify any specific sort of job, I was talking about a job. For someone in that situation, some work is better then no work.

[Angleter]

That's my point! Not your age specifically, but you haven't been in the same circumstances as those who have been looking for full time jobs, so it's impossible for you to realise how hard it can be to get a job in such circumstances.

Part-time work, flexible work etc. I didn't specify any specific sort of job, I was talking about a job. For someone in that situation, some work is better then no work.

Depends how the benefit system falls, to be honest. Although that's one thing that's improved since 2010.

[Vassenor]

Then again I get the feeling people will call me entitled for feeling like I'd be lucky to get a job stacking shelves or flipping burgers. And considering it sufficient as starter employment.

[Rufford]

The poor should be humanely destroyed.

We all know where this is going, so let's just save some time.

The problem is its hard to tell weather its trolling or weather Vanguard actualy thinks it. Not for that specifically, just for Vanguard in general.

[The Archregimancy]

This thread will be humourless without HMSV.

We'll have to provoke more Lamadia-Elepsis fights.

HMS Vanguard's main problems are A) his mistaken assumption that he's some latterday exponent of coruscating Swiftian satire; B) his total contempt for anyone who isn't HMS Vanguard; C) his tendency to play the (wo)man rather than the ball.

I really wouldn't waste too much time holding him up as an exemplar of anything in particular; if he can't bring himself to reform his behaviour, he'll likely be DEAT before the year is out. At which point he'll no doubt predictably rail against the standard of moderation on the site (see point B, above); but then he did that with his previous main account as well.

And I really wouldn't recommend provoking fights between anyone; not even as a joke.

[Souseiseki]

That's my point! Not your age specifically, but you haven't been in the same circumstances as those who have been looking for full time jobs, so it's impossible for you to realise how hard it can be to get a job in such circumstances.

Part-time work, flexible work etc. I didn't specify any specific sort of job, I was talking about a job. For someone in that situation, some work is better then no work.

it was strongly implied you meant real full time jobs

[Souseiseki]

but then he did that with his previous main account as well

oh god it's so juicy

[Ifreann]

Judge me how you want, what matters is the grades on my qualifications which are pretty swell and my CV, which is also pretty swell.

even graduates have trouble finding jobs. but i'm sure if you set yourself apart you will through hard work and just a little pinch of magic be fine.

Grasp bootstraps firmly and pull straight up.

[The Huskar Social Union]

This thread will be humourless without HMSV.

We'll have to provoke more Lamadia-Elepsis fights.

HMS Vanguard's main problems are A) his mistaken assumption that he's some latterday exponent of coruscating Swiftian satire; B) his total contempt for anyone who isn't HMS Vanguard; C) his tendency to play the (wo)man rather than the ball.

I really wouldn't waste too much time holding him up as an exemplar of anything in particular; if he can't bring himself to reform his behaviour, he'll likely be DEAT before the year is out. At which point he'll no doubt predictably rail against the standard of moderation on the site (see point B, above); but then he did that with his previous main account as well.

And I really wouldn't recommend provoking fights between anyone; not even as a joke.

Come on Arch right now! Me and you lets go! Nothing held back!

Like the titans of yore! Till the very end when one of us falls to the ground and ascends to Valhalla!


Seriously though... dont, dont kill me.

[Questers]

This thread will be humourless without HMSV.

We'll have to provoke more Lamadia-Elepsis fights.

HMS Vanguard's main problems are A) his mistaken assumption that he's some latterday exponent of coruscating Swiftian satire; B) his total contempt for anyone who isn't HMS Vanguard; C) his tendency to play the (wo)man rather than the ball.

I really wouldn't waste too much time holding him up as an exemplar of anything in particular; if he can't bring himself to reform his behaviour, he'll likely be DEAT before the year is out. At which point he'll no doubt predictably rail against the standard of moderation on the site (see point B, above); but then he did that with his previous main account as well.

And I really wouldn't recommend provoking fights between anyone; not even as a joke.

Point taken on the provoking thing. I thought that might be borderline.

I don't agree. I am sure that what he does is pushing the rules, but then I don't agree with the site's rules (obviously it's not important enough to stop using the site though.)

He doesn't shitpost more than some other people on this thread, it's only that the shitposting is more provocative. When he post serious posts they're usually better constructed and stronger arguments than the majority of the people on this thread are capable of making, even if they're all satire (they're not all satire, though.)

[Vassenor]

When he post serious posts they're usually better constructed and stronger arguments than the majority of the people on this thread are capable of making, even if they're all satire (they're not all satire, though.)

If you're going to make veiled insults against the thread in general it's probably a good idea to provide hard evidence.

[Questers]

When he post serious posts they're usually better constructed and stronger arguments than the majority of the people on this thread are capable of making, even if they're all satire (they're not all satire, though.)

If you're going to make veiled insults against the thread in general it's probably a good idea to provide hard evidence.

A Toyota Hilux is more reliable than a Land Rover Discovery. Is that a veiled insult against the Disco?

[Vassenor]

If you're going to make veiled insults against the thread in general it's probably a good idea to provide hard evidence.

A Toyota Hilux is more reliable than a Land Rover Discovery. Is that a veiled insult against the Disco?

So you're not going to provide evidence in support of your point?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Only three pages to go.

Oh the gay blood ban finally got lifted today in NI. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-37235281

Well, yesterday really.

[Wolfmanne2]

Part-time work, flexible work etc. I didn't specify any specific sort of job, I was talking about a job. For someone in that situation, some work is better then no work.

it was strongly implied you meant real full time jobs

Hmm, I gave that perception? Are you implying that was leading the whole thread on?

[Questers]

A Toyota Hilux is more reliable than a Land Rover Discovery. Is that a veiled insult against the Disco?

So you're not going to provide evidence in support of your point?

Do you have a metric for proving how good someone is at arguing?

[Souseiseki]

HMS Vanguard's main problems are A) his mistaken assumption that he's some latterday exponent of coruscating Swiftian satire; B) his total contempt for anyone who isn't HMS Vanguard; C) his tendency to play the (wo)man rather than the ball.

I really wouldn't waste too much time holding him up as an exemplar of anything in particular; if he can't bring himself to reform his behaviour, he'll likely be DEAT before the year is out. At which point he'll no doubt predictably rail against the standard of moderation on the site (see point B, above); but then he did that with his previous main account as well.

And I really wouldn't recommend provoking fights between anyone; not even as a joke.

Point taken on the provoking thing. I thought that might be borderline.

I don't agree. I am sure that what he does is pushing the rules, but then I don't agree with the site's rules (obviously it's not important enough to stop using the site though.)

He doesn't shitpost more than some other people on this thread, it's only that the shitposting is more provocative. When he post serious posts they're usually better constructed and stronger arguments than the majority of the people on this thread are capable of making, even if they're all satire (they're not all satire, though.)

create a veneer of shitposting for when someone makes the mistake of wandering into something on which you have actual arguments and statistics it will just throw them off even more

it's like crouching tiger hidden shitposter. or is that crouching shitposter hidden dragon?

[Rufford]

This thread will be humourless without HMSV.

We'll have to provoke more Lamadia-Elepsis fights.

HMS Vanguard's main problems are A) his mistaken assumption that he's some latterday exponent of coruscating Swiftian satire; B) his total contempt for anyone who isn't HMS Vanguard; C) his tendency to play the (wo)man rather than the ball.

I really wouldn't waste too much time holding him up as an exemplar of anything in particular; if he can't bring himself to reform his behaviour, he'll likely be DEAT before the year is out. At which point he'll no doubt predictably rail against the standard of moderation on the site (see point B, above); but then he did that with his previous main account as well.

And I really wouldn't recommend provoking fights between anyone; not even as a joke.

I love your style of moderation, Arch.

[The Archregimancy]

Only three pages to go.

Which is precisely why I'm currently lurking on the margins of the thread.

[Questers]

Point taken on the provoking thing. I thought that might be borderline.

I don't agree. I am sure that what he does is pushing the rules, but then I don't agree with the site's rules (obviously it's not important enough to stop using the site though.)

He doesn't shitpost more than some other people on this thread, it's only that the shitposting is more provocative. When he post serious posts they're usually better constructed and stronger arguments than the majority of the people on this thread are capable of making, even if they're all satire (they're not all satire, though.)

create a veneer of shitposting for when someone makes the mistake of wandering into something on which you have actual arguments and statistics it will just throw them off even more

it's like crouching tiger hidden shitposter. or is that crouching shitposter hidden dragon?

crouching tiger hidden shitposter LOOOOL