UK Politics IV: Disraeli Gears

[Vassenor]

In the news this week:

Labour NEC rules that Jeremy Corbyn can be included on the leadership ballot as the incumbent with no requirements

MPs to debate the 2nd Referendum petition when Parliament reconvenes on September 5th

Ofsted warns about further education providers not doing enough to protect students from extremist influences

Mod Edit, title, Richard II, Act II, Scene 1

[Souseiseki]

Highly likely that Labour Party itself will challenge the decision in the courts

So the Labour Party is going to sue it's own NEC, to remove it's own leader, over the wishes of a (sizable amount, probably a) majority of it's own members.

pee el pee dot tee ekst tee

UK(?) Politics Thread please

[Hydesland]

Corbyn could always just resign.

[Esparastan]

I'm against leaving, but overriding the referendum is a slap on the face to democracy.

[Souseiseki]

Corbyn could always just resign.

for what purpose?

[Hydesland]

Corbyn could always just resign.

for what purpose?

To save the Labour party from collapsing on itself.

[Souseiseki]

for what purpose?

To save the Labour party from collapsing on itself.

well that's a ridiculous stance. the PLP could just respect the decision of the majority of the voters in the leadership elections, to save the labour party from collapsing on itself, but i doubt you'd suggest that.

[Hydesland]

To save the Labour party from collapsing on itself.

well that's a ridiculous stance. the PLP could just respect the decision of the majority of the voters in the leadership elections, to save the labour party from collapsing on itself, but i doubt you'd suggest that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stag_hunt

[Imperializt Russia]

js, but if we do decided to go for "simply reads - bugger", I'd like to suggest that we try for a more complete quote of "Made a note. Simply says: Bugger"

(please don't change the actual thread options because it sometimes resets tho)

[Arkolon]

GE good idea y/n

[Souseiseki]

well that's a ridiculous stance. the PLP could just respect the decision of the majority of the voters in the leadership elections, to save the labour party from collapsing on itself, but i doubt you'd suggest that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stag_hunt

i'm not sure how this affects what i said

[Souseiseki]

js, but if we do decided to go for "simply reads - bugger", I'd like to suggest that we try for a more complete quote of "Made a note. Simply says: Bugger"

(please don't change the actual thread options because it sometimes resets tho)

we could rip off mitchell and webb

"a summary of our situation in one rude word"

[Hydesland]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stag_hunt

i'm not sure this affects what i said

It's easier for one person to make a decision than everyone else to make a simultaneous decision.

[Vassenor]

I think just for the sake of reference I'll call the title poll some time on Friday and then swap in the Labour leadership poll once we know exactly who's running.

[Souseiseki]

i'm not sure this affects what i said

It's easier for one person to make a decision than everyone else to make a simultaneous decision.

what about the hundreds of thousands of people that voted him in? it's not like jeremy stepping down is going to heal the division in the labour party, just... make it so we never get a left-wing candidate ever again? nice.

[MERIZoC]

I'm still behind "garden of eton" for the title tbh

[Imperializt Russia]

I'm still behind "garden of eton" for the title tbh

The Eton lot'll be gone by Thursday.

[Geilinor]

To save the Labour party from collapsing on itself.

well that's a ridiculous stance. the PLP could just respect the decision of the majority of the voters in the leadership elections, to save the labour party from collapsing on itself, but i doubt you'd suggest that.

Cameron's resignation helped the Tories unite around a mutually acceptable leader.

[Hydesland]

what about the hundreds of thousands of people that voted him in? it's not like jeremy stepping down is going to heal the division in the labour party, just... make it so we never get a left-wing candidate ever again? nice.

Honestly Angela Eagle is left wing, even though she's possibly even less electable than Corbyn - perhaps if Corbyn had resigned earlier we might have got a better challenger. I think Corbyn resigning will do short term damage, but not as much as the party forcing him out unwillingly, nor as much as some weird situation after a second Corbyn victory where he has no control over his own party and becomes extremely weak opposition to the conservatives.

[MERIZoC]

I'm still behind "garden of eton" for the title tbh

The Eton lot'll be gone by Thursday.

I don't imagine you'll ever be rid of an eton lot. Dave is gone but surely more are to follow

[MERIZoC]

well that's a ridiculous stance. the PLP could just respect the decision of the majority of the voters in the leadership elections, to save the labour party from collapsing on itself, but i doubt you'd suggest that.

Cameron's resignation helped the Tories unite around a mutually acceptable leader.

Cameron quite clearly didn't have the base behind him. He staked his premiership on the referendum and lost.

[Frank Zipper]

"If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now,
It's just a spring clean for the May queen.
Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on.
And it makes me wonder."

[Imperializt Russia]

The Eton lot'll be gone by Thursday.

I don't imagine you'll ever be rid of an eton lot. Dave is gone but surely more are to follow

Supposedly, May cared little for the Old Etonian's club that Dave turned the Tory cabinet into.

[Malgrave]

I'm still behind "garden of eton" for the title tbh

but that option sucks.

[Hydesland]

What the hell is going on in Ireland: http://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublica ... index.html