Are Women Oppressed in the West?

[Charmera]

Definitely. You only need to look at the gender makeup of politics and business leaders to see that.

There aren't any laws stopping women from becoming either of those things. A woman is currently running for president and Britain has had it's second female PM. So it's not like women are barred from politics and business.

While most Western nations have fully equal rights for both men and women, women's voices are still silenced in modern culture and women are still often taken less seriously than men.

They're not silenced. We get to hear plenty of women's opinions. .


I will concede that that the latter is a problem (Not one I've seen personally, so honestly I just have to take the word of annedotes and surveys to an extent, though I remain sceptical that it is as widespread as people claim) and is technically "Oppression". However it's not opression in the same sense that peasants were opressed during the medieval times. It's not supported by the government, and in fact the government (jn the US at least) tries very hard to promote womens issues. It is a problem and on which hurts women, but calling it opression misrepresents the issue as one a government has to solve, which can be someone dangerous.

[Felrik]

Definitely. You only need to look at the gender makeup of politics and business leaders to see that. While most Western nations have fully equal rights for both men and women, women's voices are still silenced in modern culture and women are still often taken less seriously than men.

That happens less and less now. Although it still happens and there are certain stupid ideas about ''women are too emotional for politics'' that need to die. But I think the women with the biggest problems are those in the Middle East and Asia, more than in the West. This is not to say that there are inequities at play.

Or for example the unfair advantage they have in divorce and custody battles, and another example would be the "Men are to Violent" stereotype.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

That happens less and less now. Although it still happens and there are certain stupid ideas about ''women are too emotional for politics'' that need to die. But I think the women with the biggest problems are those in the Middle East and Asia, more than in the West. This is not to say that there are inequities at play.

Or for example the unfair advantage they have in divorce or custody battles, or another example the "Men to Violent" stereotype.

One issue we, as women, do have in the west, is the constant attempts at removing our bodily sovereignty. Trying to strip us of reproductive rights. Of course, in most of the west, the law respects and protects those rights. In the Middle East and Asia, however, women have very little to no rights, depending on the country.

Compared to them, I don't think we're oppressed. Not to the degree they are.

[The balkens]

Or for example the unfair advantage they have in divorce or custody battles, or another example the "Men to Violent" stereotype.

One issue we, as women, do have in the west, is the constant attempts at removing our bodily sovereignty. Trying to strip us of reproductive rights. Of course, in most of the west, the law respects and protects those rights. In the Middle East and Asia, however, women have very little to no rights, depending on the country.

Compared to them, I don't think we're oppressed. Not to the degree they are.

Then...why dont we do something about it?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

And the old adage that needs to die too is that ''Men are violent'' by default. That's bullshit. Some men are violent, some women are violent, but violence is not the gender/sex's default state and to teach that it is is fucked.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

One issue we, as women, do have in the west, is the constant attempts at removing our bodily sovereignty. Trying to strip us of reproductive rights. Of course, in most of the west, the law respects and protects those rights. In the Middle East and Asia, however, women have very little to no rights, depending on the country.

Compared to them, I don't think we're oppressed. Not to the degree they are.

Then...why dont we do something about it?

Like? Honest question.

As a funfem, as I've been dubbed by certain characters in this forum, other than try to launch educational programs to start helping women in the Middle East and Asia, I don't know what to do.

[Costa Fierro]

One issue we, as women, do have in the west, is the constant attempts at removing our bodily sovereignty. Trying to strip us of reproductive rights. Of course, in most of the west, the law respects and protects those rights. In the Middle East and Asia, however, women have very little to no rights, depending on the country.

Compared to them, I don't think we're oppressed. Not to the degree they are.

Then...why dont we do something about it?

Because white women fighting for women's rights in the Middle East and Asia is condescending, apparently. The white (wo)man saving the yellow/brown (wo)man from barbarianism and bringing civility to all the world.

[The balkens]

Then...why dont we do something about it?

Like? Honest question.

As a funfem, as I've been dubbed by certain characters in this forum, other than try to launch educational programs to start helping women in the Middle East and Asia, I don't know what to do.

Hey! That means youre fun! o/

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Like? Honest question.

As a funfem, as I've been dubbed by certain characters in this forum, other than try to launch educational programs to start helping women in the Middle East and Asia, I don't know what to do.

Hey! That means youre fun! o/

Likely story. ;}

The only fair course of action, is to educate, IMO, to change certain stances.

[The balkens]

Hey! That means youre fun! o/

Likely story. ;}

The only fair course of action, is to educate, IMO, to change certain stances.

im thinking something more aggressive.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Likely story. ;}

The only fair course of action, is to educate, IMO, to change certain stances.

im thinking something more aggressive.

Like?

[Felrik]

Or for example the unfair advantage they have in divorce or custody battles, or another example the "Men to Violent" stereotype.

One issue we, as women, do have in the west, is the constant attempts at removing our bodily sovereignty. Trying to strip us of reproductive rights. Of course, in most of the west, the law respects and protects those rights. In the Middle East and Asia, however, women have very little to no rights, depending on the country.

Compared to them, I don't think we're oppressed. Not to the degree they are.

Personally I don't think that women are oppressed in the west, In the Middle East though, thats a different story, so I propose that feminists, instead of complaining about bullshit like Mansplianing and manspreading, should go out there and help the women in the Middle East.

[Charmera]

Hey! That means youre fun! o/

Likely story. ;}

The only fair course of action, is to educate, IMO, to change certain stances.

You know what, I've changed my mind.
I like your stance now.
*nods*

[The balkens]

Likely story. ;}

The only fair course of action, is to educate, IMO, to change certain stances.

You know what, I've changed my mind.
I like your stance now.
*nods*

MANTRIACHY!

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

You know what, I've changed my mind.
I like your stance now.
*nods*

MANTRIACHY!

Manape, want a banana or a pickle?

Likely story. ;}

The only fair course of action, is to educate, IMO, to change certain stances.

You know what, I've changed my mind.
I like your stance now.
*nods*

Ok... well, that's just for the up and coming generations. For now, I frankly don't know what to do.

[Charmera]

You know what, I've changed my mind.
I like your stance now.
*nods*

MANTRIACHY!

Shit. How did he find out?
*Escapes in my Apache Helicopter*

[Costa Fierro]

One issue we, as women, do have in the west, is the constant attempts at removing our bodily sovereignty. Trying to strip us of reproductive rights. Of course, in most of the west, the law respects and protects those rights. In the Middle East and Asia, however, women have very little to no rights, depending on the country.

Compared to them, I don't think we're oppressed. Not to the degree they are.

Personally I don't think that women are oppressed in the west, In the Middle East though, thats a different story, so I propose that feminists, instead of complaining about bullshit like Mansplianing and manspreading, should go out there and help the women in the Middle East.

Because apparently Western feminists have got it into their brains that any help from Western feminists is insulting and condescending to non-Western women.

[Charmera]

MANTRIACHY!

Manape, want a banana or a pickle?

You know what, I've changed my mind.
I like your stance now.
*nods*

Ok... well, that's just for the up and coming generations. For now, I frankly don't know what to do.

Nothing.
There's nothing we can do. We don't really have any legislive or political power. So yeah...

[The balkens]

Personally I don't think that women are oppressed in the west, In the Middle East though, thats a different story, so I propose that feminists, instead of complaining about bullshit like Mansplianing and manspreading, should go out there and help the women in the Middle East.

Because apparently Western feminists have got it into their brains that any help from Western feminists is insulting and condescending to non-Western women.

oh god, just strike me down already.

[Felrik]

MANTRIACHY!

Shit. How did he find out?
*Escapes in my Apache Helicopter*

How dare you use Apache Helicopter to do something, Don't you know that I identify as a Apache Helicopter.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Manape, want a banana or a pickle?



Ok... well, that's just for the up and coming generations. For now, I frankly don't know what to do.

Nothing.
There's nothing we can do. We don't really have any legislive or political power. So yeah...

I guess talking like this is a step for the better.

[Felrik]

Personally I don't think that women are oppressed in the west, In the Middle East though, thats a different story, so I propose that feminists, instead of complaining about bullshit like Mansplianing and manspreading, should go out there and help the women in the Middle East.

Because apparently Western feminists have got it into their brains that any help from Western feminists is insulting and condescending to non-Western women.

ffs

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Ummm... could we not use that unsavory Apache helicopter meme? Please? It's usually seen as making fun of transgender people, and I would rather this thread didn't go that way.

[Charmera]

Nothing.
There's nothing we can do. We don't really have any legislive or political power. So yeah...

I guess talking like this is a step for the better.

Probably. It's good to talk.

[Costa Fierro]

oh god, just strike me down already.

ffs

And this is one of the main failings of Western feminism; they don't care about the silly brown/yellow people, because they're not important, not relevant to them.