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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:53 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Well it's very likely she's there for other reasons. Either you're ripped and look like Chris Hemsworth or you're very, very good in bed.

I was 310lbs when we met, pure blubber. I've lost @100lbs of that but that just made me a deflated balloon. And I'm awful in the sack, I can say that without reservation or shame. We just like each other's company, man. No super powers.


its the bus dude, it has a vibe
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Postby Pandeeria » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:53 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:If it was, then women wouldn't be dating men of all social classes.


Except that they don't.

They'd be dating the rich guys.


A lot do. It's way, way easier to get a date if you're rich than if you're not.

Obviously that's not true if you go outside for a second and look around you.


And I see a lot of people with stable, middle class incomes. Pretty much anything below just above min wage is where people draw the line, because people on min wage don't tend to have the same kinds of financial stability as people on higher incomes. Not to mention min wage incomes tend to limit what you can do.


You know that not all women are the same, right? There's plenty of women out there that will only consider dating you if you're attractive and/or rich, but there are also plenty, probably even more, out there that don't have such standards, and can be content just with meeting someone who is nice.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:54 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Except that they don't.



A lot do. It's way, way easier to get a date if you're rich than if you're not.



And I see a lot of people with stable, middle class incomes. Pretty much anything below just above min wage is where people draw the line, because people on min wage don't tend to have the same kinds of financial stability as people on higher incomes. Not to mention min wage incomes tend to limit what you can do.


You know that not all women are the same, right? There's plenty of women out there that will only consider dating you if you're attractive and/or rich, but there are also plenty, probably even more, out there that don't have such standards, and can be content just with meeting someone who is nice.


and some women just want to save someone, it's like there are all sorts of different types out there ... weird
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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:54 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Actually, from what I've heard from women they tend to prefer personality over looks in and of itself. At least some women anyway.


The source of his point is Reddit?

Wait right here. Please. Let me go get some beer and chips. This is getting amusing.

For sure.

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Postby The East Marches » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:55 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
Truer words were never spoken on NSG.

I can verify that the above statement is true. I wish I had listened to my father sooner. Mistakes were made.


I guess this is the way we learn. Unfortunately. But it is good to dish this out as useful. Parents, very often (I know there are exceptions), know more than we do and we should listen to them regarding this topic.


I agree. My "oh god mistakes were made call Ron Paul its fucking happening 19241212!!!" moments were the ones I gained the most from. I think we learn through witness disasters or near disasters that could have been (by listening to advice). I believe it is something related to human nature. We would be better off if this was not the case all the time.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:57 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I guess this is the way we learn. Unfortunately. But it is good to dish this out as useful. Parents, very often (I know there are exceptions), know more than we do and we should listen to them regarding this topic.


I agree. My "oh god mistakes were made call Ron Paul its fucking happening 19241212!!!" moments were the ones I gained the most from. I think we learn through witness disasters or near disasters that could have been (by listening to advice). I believe it is something related to human nature. We would be better off if this was not the case all the time.


Quite. The good thing is that, hopefully, hopefully, if we spawn, we have the experience to help our own kids when the times comes. Just so they don't rely in sites like Reddit or mags like Cosmo, which fill their heads with straw and crap ideas.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:57 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Nothing could be more serious.



She's only with you for your beard. *nods*


i thought it was the microbus.

They come for the bus. They stay for the beard.


Ethel mermania wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I was 310lbs when we met, pure blubber. I've lost @100lbs of that but that just made me a deflated balloon. And I'm awful in the sack, I can say that without reservation or shame. We just like each other's company, man. No super powers.


its the bus dude, it has a vibe

And when it does, visitors are not welcome.

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Postby Shaggy Dog Story » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:58 pm

I posted something I'll repeat. Many times relationships spring from the most random chances.

For example I was in a restaurant one night with some friends and they had just hired a new chef who was making the rounds chatting with patrons.

I noticed she had a tattoo very similar to mine. We started talking about it. Just a simple chat about tattoos and what we have and what we want. Nothing planned or attempted to pick up a random woman at her job. Just a compliment on her ink and it led to a conversation, no plan or game or trying to pick her up. Friendly chat. That was all it was.

We're getting married at the end of the year.

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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:58 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:Money helps, but we have a saying in Spanish "la mona, aunque se vista de seda, mona se queda".


And we having a saying in English: "you're the man, you pay".

Don't try to go for money in order to conceal your flaws. Your flaws are going to be exposed anyways.


My flaws aren't in my personality.

Cannot think of a name wrote:I was 310lbs when we met, pure blubber. I've lost @100lbs of that but that just made me a deflated balloon.


Self improvement is always attractive. 100 lbs is an amazing loss, regardless and she likes the new and improved you.

We just like each other's company, man. No super powers.


Daw, it's cute you think that.

Salus Maior wrote:Actually, from what I've heard from women they tend to prefer personality over looks in and of itself. At least some women anyway.


Those are the sorts of women who are a bit more self-conscious about how they look in terms of "not being like the shallow ones that say 'No short men'".
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:59 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
You know that not all women are the same, right? There's plenty of women out there that will only consider dating you if you're attractive and/or rich, but there are also plenty, probably even more, out there that don't have such standards, and can be content just with meeting someone who is nice.


and some women just want to save someone, it's like there are all sorts of different types out there ... weird

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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:00 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Don't try to go for money in order to conceal your flaws. Your flaws are going to be exposed anyways.


My flaws aren't in my personality.

I'm inclined to think that anyone saying that is lying. Everyone has personality flaws. Claiming you don't definitely doesnt change that.

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Postby The Batorys » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:02 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Ifreann wrote:It's true, you can't buy or lift your way to a personality that is compatible with human beings.


You can. Hence my post. If you are not at what women consider to be the "standard" of male beauty or have enough money to do things like go out for dinner at a nice restaurant, women are not interested. Why bother trying to advertise a substandard product when there are better walking ATM machines on the market?

You're probably going to die alone.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:03 pm

The Batorys wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
You can. Hence my post. If you are not at what women consider to be the "standard" of male beauty or have enough money to do things like go out for dinner at a nice restaurant, women are not interested. Why bother trying to advertise a substandard product when there are better walking ATM machines on the market?

You're probably going to die alone.


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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:03 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
and some women just want to save someone, it's like there are all sorts of different types out there ... weird

As much as I may wish it, there is no Misaki.


i dont know who that is, but i have had to sit down and smack around (figuratively not literally) more than one of my god daughters friends to stop them from trying to save lost causes
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:04 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:As much as I may wish it, there is no Misaki.


i dont know who that is, but i have had to sit down and smack around (figuratively not literally) more than one of my god daughters friends to stop them from trying to save lost causes


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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:05 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:

My flaws aren't in my personality.

I'm inclined to think that anyone saying that is lying. Everyone has personality flaws. Claiming you don't definitely doesnt change that.


seconded
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:05 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The source of his point is Reddit?

Wait right here. Please. Let me go get some beer and chips. This is getting amusing.

For sure.


So are you going to offer us any insights?

Pandeeria wrote:You know that not all women are the same, right?


Sure. Whatever floats your boat.

There's plenty of women out there that will only consider dating you if you're attractive and/or rich, but there are also plenty, probably even more, out there that don't have such standards, and can be content just with meeting someone who is nice.


Yeah, no. Anyone who tells you this clearly isn't the sort of man that has any trouble finding a date because he isn't ugly or dirt poor.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:08 pm

Merizoc wrote:I'm inclined to think that anyone saying that is lying.


Well I already know you have a very low opinion of me, so whatever you say isn't really going to have any bearing on how I think.

Claiming you don't definitely doesnt change that.


And that's your opinion.

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I wouldn't be surprised.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:09 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Ifreann wrote:It's true, you can't buy or lift your way to a personality that is compatible with human beings.


You can. Hence my post. If you are not at what women consider to be the "standard" of male beauty or have enough money to do things like go out for dinner at a nice restaurant, women are not interested. Why bother trying to advertise a substandard product when there are better walking ATM machines on the market?


Yeah, no.

Plenty of women I know are perfectly happy in their relationships without being flush with cash. What your saying is untrue of women as a whole, hell, not even the majority of women. If you want to convince yourself of that go ahead, but don't advertise it as some kind of universal truth.

That's like saying men only care about women with DD boobs and baby-birthing hips or some garbage like that.
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Postby Appalatchia » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:10 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:Then they find out and they're out of there faster than you can say "but I have a great personality".


Maybe your shitty view of women as not being rational people capable of liking someone for reasons other than money is why you think they're so quick to run away. They're just running from you.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:10 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
You can. Hence my post. If you are not at what women consider to be the "standard" of male beauty or have enough money to do things like go out for dinner at a nice restaurant, women are not interested. Why bother trying to advertise a substandard product when there are better walking ATM machines on the market?


Yeah, no.

Plenty of women I know are perfectly happy in their relationships without being flush with cash. What your saying is untrue of women as a whole, hell, not even the majority of women. If you want to convince yourself of that go ahead, but don't advertise it as some kind of universal truth.

That's like saying men only care about women with DD boobs and a baby-birthing hips or some garbage like that.


Woman here. Going on 7 years in my marriage. We're not flush with cash but we're ok. I wouldn't trade my husband for all the money in the world.
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Postby Shaggy Dog Story » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:11 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:I've spent enough time trawling through the same shit on Reddit to know that people offering relationship advice online is a recipe for disaster. If there's anything to consider, it's this: if you're not physically attractive or have a bit of money, don't bother trying.

I don't think a place populated by misanthrope and edgy teens is a good place for relationship advice.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:11 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Yeah, no.

Plenty of women I know are perfectly happy in their relationships without being flush with cash. What your saying is untrue of women as a whole, hell, not even the majority of women. If you want to convince yourself of that go ahead, but don't advertise it as some kind of universal truth.

That's like saying men only care about women with DD boobs and a baby-birthing hips or some garbage like that.


Woman here. Going on 7 years in my marriage. We're not flush with cash but we're ok. I wouldn't trade my husband for all the money in the world.


i would trade him for a lightly used volvo
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:12 pm

Shaggy Dog Story wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:I've spent enough time trawling through the same shit on Reddit to know that people offering relationship advice online is a recipe for disaster. If there's anything to consider, it's this: if you're not physically attractive or have a bit of money, don't bother trying.

I don't think a place populated by misanthrope and edgy teens is a good place for relationship advice.



nationstates is much better, agreed
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 



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Postby Shaggy Dog Story » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:12 pm

Appalatchia wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:Then they find out and they're out of there faster than you can say "but I have a great personality".


Maybe your shitty view of women as not being rational people capable of liking someone for reasons other than money is why you think they're so quick to run away. They're just running from you.

"Why won't any of those gold digging whores date me?" does seem to be a question that answers itself.
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