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Bakery Hill wrote:

Costa Fierro wrote:
Walk up to a woman and say "I have no money but would you go out with me anyway?" and see how far you get with that. Your providing for another person because there is no way in hell any self-respecting woman is going to pay for dates or for anything else in the relationship. You're the man, you provide.



I'm not saying it's the end of the world but you can pretty much kiss goodbye any chance of dating.

Some of my best dates have been cheap wine and fast food in a public park. I'm as poor as fuck.

I personally believe that the quality of products you consume do not determine the quality of the relationship. It is mutual understanding, respect and dedication.

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:

Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm poor as shit because I'm a student running on money fumes (I have a grand and a half to pay of tuition fees).

Is it bad that I just believe that dating will go poorly because I can't afford to do anything.
The girl I was talking to on Tinder stopped replying last week, so that's not helped anything.

1. It shows a bit of a lack of confidence to be able to keep her attention WITHOUT buying her anything or "affording" to do anything, but otherwise I'd say your worry is perfectly normal. I used to have it until I figured out that I don't need money to impress a woman, because what I do with my money is what matters, not impress her with my bank account; and if I can do things without money then even better. Money is a tool, you don't necessarily need it to show your character, but it's good to know you can do things with it.

2. Meh. I wouldn't worry about not getting too lucky on Tindr.

Well, I'm not at all worried about trying to impress people, or buy them things, because that's certainly not me anyway.
It's that I honestly feel I can't afford (not comfortably, at any rate) to do "dates".

G-Tech Corporation wrote:

Bakery Hill wrote:Why the fuck would I lie to you hahaha? What do I get out of it?

Tbf, I would say you don't always need to pay for dates, but yeah, having money works out pretty well. No girl always wants to pay for a date, taking turns is wise.

Yeah of course, no one likes a scab.

Germanic Scyths wrote:

Bakery Hill wrote:Some of my best dates have been cheap wine and fast food in a public park. I'm as poor as fuck.

I personally believe that the quality of products you consume do not determine the quality of the relationship. It is mutual understanding, respect and dedication.

What an insane idea... hahaha

Imperializt Russia wrote:

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
1. It shows a bit of a lack of confidence to be able to keep her attention WITHOUT buying her anything or "affording" to do anything, but otherwise I'd say your worry is perfectly normal. I used to have it until I figured out that I don't need money to impress a woman, because what I do with my money is what matters, not impress her with my bank account; and if I can do things without money then even better. Money is a tool, you don't necessarily need it to show your character, but it's good to know you can do things with it.

2. Meh. I wouldn't worry about not getting too lucky on Tindr.

Well, I'm not at all worried about trying to impress people, or buy them things, because that's certainly not me anyway.
It's that I honestly feel I can't afford (not comfortably, at any rate) to do "dates".

Then you need to start thinking out of the box and suggest things you feel comfortable spending on.

A date is, at it most basic, hanging out with the other person and getting to know them. You don't need to go to a restaurant for that. Hell, me and my college sweetheart were always on public transportation (which is shit in Dallas) and we generally had a good time with each other even if it was us going down to McDonalds or even to a local pizza place. We always used to play it by ear, and sometimes we ended up spending zero that day because she came to my house often to hang out and just have a jolly good time.

Like I told Costa Fierro, it's not the money that's going to make you or break you, is what you do with it that will. Money will not make you more creative at dates. If you are uncreative at dates, it doesn't matter how much money you have, you're not going to get "more creative" by having more money. Money, in other words, won't make you better at dating if you're not good at dating while poor. If anything, I'd say dating while poor forces you to be more creative about what you do on a budget than if you try dating while having lots of money.

Bakery Hill wrote:

Germanic Scyths wrote:I personally believe that the quality of products you consume do not determine the quality of the relationship. It is mutual understanding, respect and dedication.

What an insane idea... hahaha

I would rather be alone for the rest of my life than have a woman who loves me because of material possessions, Allah forbid that will happen.

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:I've literally said that to women

It must be amazing having women literally throw themselves at your feet despite having no money. Tell me, are there also unicorns in this magical land of yours?

Germanic Scyths wrote:

Bakery Hill wrote:What an insane idea... hahaha

I would rather be alone for the rest of my life than have a woman who loves me because of material possessions, Allah forbid that will happen.

Too true, it'd be a pretty hollow life.

Costa Fierro wrote:

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:I've literally said that to women

It must be amazing having women literally throw themselves at your feet despite having no money. Tell me, are there also unicorns in this magical land of yours?

No, just a whole lotta confidence.

Unlike you, I can take a woman telling me to fuck off. I can take droves of women telling me to fuck off, or that they don't like me that way, or that they simply don't think it's gonna work out. While there are women out there who want you to spend on dates, many don't, because for them a date is a time to spend with you, not with your wallet.

You seem to think that, because I am saying "you're wrong" that means I am saying "look at me, I am such a stud".

Costa Fierro wrote:

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:I've literally said that to women

It must be amazing having women literally throw themselves at your feet despite having no money. Tell me, are there also unicorns in this magical land of yours?

Yeah it's called "outside".

Costa Fierro wrote:

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:I've literally said that to women

It must be amazing having women literally throw themselves at your feet despite having no money. Tell me, are there also unicorns in this magical land of yours?

Do you realize how ridiculous you're looking?

Bakery Hill wrote:

Germanic Scyths wrote:I would rather be alone for the rest of my life than have a woman who loves me because of material possessions, Allah forbid that will happen.

Too true, it'd be a pretty hollow life.

That is completely true, but I think better than to live with an illusion of love.

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:No, just a whole lotta confidence.

Sure.

Unlike you, I can take a woman telling me to fuck off.

Good to know that insults are still the dish of the day.

You seem to think that, because I am saying "you're wrong" that means I am saying "look at me, I am such a stud".

Not at all. What I think of your responses would likely incur the wrath of moderation.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Do you realize how ridiculous you're looking?

Do you realize how little I care about how I look?

Costa Fierro wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Do you realize how ridiculous you're looking?

Do you realize how little I care about how I look?

Well, yeah. It's pretty self evident.

If every girl you've ever met only cares about money there's just one simple thing you need to do.

Costa Fierro wrote:

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:No, just a whole lotta confidence.

Sure.

Unlike you, I can take a woman telling me to fuck off.

Good to know that insults are still the dish of the day.

You seem to think that, because I am saying "you're wrong" that means I am saying "look at me, I am such a stud".

Not at all. What I think of your responses would likely incur the wrath of moderation.

How are they going to incur the wrath of moderation? All I said is that I can take a woman telling me to fuck off, unlike you who seems so bent on not failing at dates, or given up completely on the idea and you're just here trying to make other people view your point of view when literally everyone who is older than you has contradicted you, more than once, in this thread.

You have insulted us by saying every woman we have dated, including some married women with their husbands, are just leeches. If all that there is around you are women who look at you for your money, then the problem is not our dates. You have decided to literally deny the possibility that something else exists outside of your bubble.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:If every girl you've ever met only cares about money there's just one simple thing you need to do.

Run like hell?

Find a girl that isn't a money hungry cunt, they actually do exist.

Sure they do. In the same way Bigfoot exists. People claim to have seen one but no one really has the evidence to back it up.

Costa Fierro wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:If every girl you've ever met only cares about money there's just one simple thing you need to do.

Run like hell?

Find a girl that isn't a money hungry cunt, they actually do exist.

Sure they do. In the same way Bigfoot exists. People claim to have seen one but no one really has the evidence to back it up.

So why is every other person on this forum lying to you?

Costa Fierro wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:If every girl you've ever met only cares about money there's just one simple thing you need to do.

Run like hell?

Find a girl that isn't a money hungry cunt, they actually do exist.

Sure they do. In the same way Bigfoot exists. People claim to have seen one but no one really has the evidence to back it up.

I'm having to use a lot of restraint here to not make a lot of very unfavourably comparisons to you.

Costa Fierro wrote:Sure they do. In the same way Bigfoot exists. People claim to have seen one but no one really has the evidence to back it up.

And yet again, almost everyone older than you in this thread has dated women who didn't ask for money.

You don't accept anecdotes of dating, you don't accept that you're misreading your own research data, so there's really not much we can do to wipe out your denial. I am not telling you you are wrong for your sake at this point. I am simply not wanting for other people to feel like you're right.

Costa Fierro wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:If every girl you've ever met only cares about money there's just one simple thing you need to do.

Run like hell?

Find a girl that isn't a money hungry cunt, they actually do exist.

Sure they do. In the same way Bigfoot exists. People claim to have seen one but no one really has the evidence to back it up.

With your outlook on things I don't think any amount of evidence would change your mind.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Costa Fierro wrote:
Run like hell?



Sure they do. In the same way Bigfoot exists. People claim to have seen one but no one really has the evidence to back it up.

With your outlook on things I don't think any amount of evidence would change your mind.

Hell, his own data proves him wrong and yet he won't change his mind and instead decide to snip at shallow-watered comments.

Costa Fierro wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:If every girl you've ever met only cares about money there's just one simple thing you need to do.

Run like hell?

Find a girl that isn't a money hungry cunt, they actually do exist.

Sure they do. In the same way Bigfoot exists. People claim to have seen one but no one really has the evidence to back it up.

Maybe assuming that all any girl wants is money, is what's keeping girls who care for more than that away.

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:All I said is that I can take a woman telling me to fuck off, unlike you who seems so bent on not failing at dates, or given up completely on the idea and you're just here trying to make other people view your point of view when literally everyone who is older than you has contradicted you, more than once, in this thread.

They're only contradicting me because none of them have actually experienced anything that contradicts their experiences or their points of view. It's not that they're right, it's that they live in individual bubbles of their own.

You have insulted us by saying every woman we have dated, including some married women with their husbands, are just leeches.

I haven't said that at all. I don't know where you keep getting this idea that I've called them, or even insinuated, that they are leeches.

If all that there is around you are women who look at you for your money, then the problem is not our dates.

No, the problem is that you're not wising up. You're stuck in your own little bubbles and anything that dares contravene your accepted wisdom must be wrong.

Saying that because you haven't experienced something, it therefore doesn't exist is like saying I haven't been raped, therefore rape doesn't exist. It does, even if I haven't experienced it, because you don't need to experience it to acknowledge that something exists.

You have decided to literally deny the possibility that something else exists outside of your bubble.

Because there isn't any credible evidence that has been provided that disproves anything I have said.

Bakery Hill wrote:So why is every other person on this forum lying to you?

To mock me. Seems to be a rather common theme is to ridicule people that don't share your views.

Irona wrote:Maybe assuming that all any girl wants is money, is what's keeping girls who care for more than that away.

Yeah, that's probably a good point too.

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:Hell, his own data proves him wrong and yet he won't change his mind and instead decide to snip at shallow-watered comments.

I haven't been paying attention to the thread long so I haven't looked at any data posted or whatnot but the whole "all women are gold diggers" thing is silly.

Yeah, people like that exist and they suck but that isn't every woman ever.

Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm having to use a lot of restraint here to not make a lot of very unfavourably comparisons to you.

Why? I haven't said anything untoward to you.

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:And yet again, almost everyone older than you in this thread has dated women who didn't ask for money.

No one is going to just blatantly ask someone for money from the get go. That's ridiculous.

You don't accept anecdotes of dating,

Because I only have people's words to go on. You have to admit, that's not much is it?

I am simply not wanting for other people to feel like you're right.

Why are you against letting people make up their own minds?

Hell, his own data proves him wrong and yet he won't change his mind and instead decide to snip at shallow-watered comments.

It hasn't.