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Vubaria wrote:

Kubra wrote: expat ESL teachers in Russia pay their own visa fees.

Well, that makes it even more expensive.

Kubra wrote: Bribery is, well, it's a fact of life in a lot of places. No choice but to grease them gears best, and that's on the applicant to do. Proper euro countries def don't have the same needs for ESL teaching, but that's more to do with their presence in the linguistic pool of continental Europe and the free movement of labour making it much easier for Englishmen to get into a then flooded market. And that aside, he ain't in stem afaik, ESL and straight up enlisting are his only options of he wants an in.

SK and Japan pay infinitely better by comparison tho.

It's not necessarily no qualification, a post-grad TEFL diploma isn't the hardest bit of schooling around and gives one a huge leg up on competition.

TEFL can help but I hope he's happy doing nothing else for the rest of his life. Employers do not look kindly on time spent doing it, unless you want to teach English.

expensive, but not impossible. He's a Russian Orthodox living in America looking for Russian Orthodox partners, it's just an uphill battle.

Ah, well, doing the same thing for the rest of your life is the mark of adulthood. He could technically progress up the levels of English education, tho it's a bit difficult without an actual education degree. Doable without a master's or PhD, though not necessarily desirable
But hey, could be worse, could be getting a master's or PhD am I right

Kubra wrote:

Vubaria wrote:Well, that makes it even more expensive.

TEFL can help but I hope he's happy doing nothing else for the rest of his life. Employers do not look kindly on time spent doing it, unless you want to teach English.

expensive, but not impossible. He's a Russian Orthodox living in America looking for Russian Orthodox partners, it's just an uphill battle.

Ah, well, doing the same thing for the rest of your life is the mark of adulthood. He could technically progress up the levels of English education, tho it's a bit difficult without an actual education degree. Doable without a master's or PhD, though not necessarily desirable
But hey, could be worse, could be getting a master's or PhD am I right

I wouldn't rank getting a girlfriend over advancing yourself career-wise.

Although, I also don't care about religion.

Vubaria wrote:

Kubra wrote: expensive, but not impossible. He's a Russian Orthodox living in America looking for Russian Orthodox partners, it's just an uphill battle.

Ah, well, doing the same thing for the rest of your life is the mark of adulthood. He could technically progress up the levels of English education, tho it's a bit difficult without an actual education degree. Doable without a master's or PhD, though not necessarily desirable
But hey, could be worse, could be getting a master's or PhD am I right

I wouldn't rank getting a girlfriend over advancing yourself career-wise.

Although, I also don't care about religion.

people who are religious tend to care about religion. I ain't religious, but I understand that he don't want to compromise his faith.
You wouldn't, I wouldn't, but plenty of folks do care about partners quite a bit. Hell, the idea of career before mating is a very new one, so it's obvious that folks wouldn't be totally on board with the concept.

Kubra wrote:

Vubaria wrote:I wouldn't rank getting a girlfriend over advancing yourself career-wise.

Although, I also don't care about religion.

people who are religious tend to care about religion. I ain't religious, but I understand that he don't want to compromise his faith.
You wouldn't, I wouldn't, but plenty of folks do care about partners quite a bit. Hell, the idea of career before mating is a very new one, so it's obvious that folks wouldn't be totally on board with the concept.

Up to him I guess.

Vubaria wrote:

Kubra wrote: people who are religious tend to care about religion. I ain't religious, but I understand that he don't want to compromise his faith.
You wouldn't, I wouldn't, but plenty of folks do care about partners quite a bit. Hell, the idea of career before mating is a very new one, so it's obvious that folks wouldn't be totally on board with the concept.

Up to him I guess.

though as you say, if those factors weren't in play sk and Japan are rly great options
I hope they never realise ESL is basically a big scam

Cecil Palmer wrote:

Eastern Theena wrote:I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this before, or if it's entirely accurate, but I think one of the best ways to get into a relationship is to get a real job first.

I know that I used to have a lot of trouble talking to people in real life, and had problems with my looks but when I began working I slowly had less trouble talking to other people. I think it gives an extra boost of confidence (somehow) and conversations about funny things that happen at work are more entertaining and easier to get into then discussing the weather or each others video game adventures. And it was also after I got my first job that I began noticing which of my friends would keep asking for stuff and which ones were content. Kind of shows the persons character that I never noticed before I started working, which to me is important.

It always boosts your self-confidence and sense of self-worth to have a job. You're right about it making friends stand up, too. Altogether, jobs are great for almost all aspects of your life.

I'm poor as shit because I'm a student running on money fumes (I have a grand and a half to pay of tuition fees).

Is it bad that I just believe that dating will go poorly because I can't afford to do anything.
The girl I was talking to on Tinder stopped replying last week, so that's not helped anything.

Imperializt Russia wrote:Is it bad that I just believe that dating will go poorly because I can't afford to do anything.

No. If you can barely provide enough money for yourself, how exactly do you expect to provide money for someone else?

The girl I was talking to on Tinder stopped replying last week, so that's not helped anything.

Going onto Tinder is a mistake. You'll find nothing but magpies on there.

Costa Fierro wrote:

Imperializt Russia wrote:Is it bad that I just believe that dating will go poorly because I can't afford to do anything.

No. If you can barely provide enough money for yourself, how exactly do you expect to provide money for someone else?

Dating has nothing to do with providing money for another. Does a lack of money limit your options while in a relationship? Sure, but it's not the end of the world.

Costa Fierro wrote:

Imperializt Russia wrote:Is it bad that I just believe that dating will go poorly because I can't afford to do anything.

No. If you can barely provide enough money for yourself, how exactly do you expect to provide money for someone else?

I'm not going for a shotgun wedding, I'm not "providing" for anyone.

Imperializt Russia wrote:

Cecil Palmer wrote:
It always boosts your self-confidence and sense of self-worth to have a job. You're right about it making friends stand up, too. Altogether, jobs are great for almost all aspects of your life.

I'm poor as shit because I'm a student running on money fumes (I have a grand and a half to pay of tuition fees).

Is it bad that I just believe that dating will go poorly because I can't afford to do anything.
The girl I was talking to on Tinder stopped replying last week, so that's not helped anything.

If you want to feel more optimistic, most people would say that a good relationship would survive financial strain (and it could certainly be argued that's the truth).

Imperializt Russia wrote:

Cecil Palmer wrote:
It always boosts your self-confidence and sense of self-worth to have a job. You're right about it making friends stand up, too. Altogether, jobs are great for almost all aspects of your life.

I'm poor as shit because I'm a student running on money fumes (I have a grand and a half to pay of tuition fees).

Is it bad that I just believe that dating will go poorly because I can't afford to do anything.
The girl I was talking to on Tinder stopped replying last week, so that's not helped anything.

date a student
They know the struggle

Kubra wrote:

Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm poor as shit because I'm a student running on money fumes (I have a grand and a half to pay of tuition fees).

Is it bad that I just believe that dating will go poorly because I can't afford to do anything.
The girl I was talking to on Tinder stopped replying last week, so that's not helped anything.

date a student
They know the struggle

That is the goal, but I always feel like I'm especially poor even for a student.

I am three, soon to be five thousand pounds worse off than I was a year ago because of aforementioned tuition fees.

Imperializt Russia wrote:

Kubra wrote: date a student
They know the struggle

That is the goal, but I always feel like I'm especially poor even for a student.

I am three, soon to be five thousand pounds worse off than I was a year ago because of aforementioned tuition fees.

Lol join the club
We're all in the hole something fierce, education sux

Freefall11111 wrote:Dating has nothing to do with providing money for another.

Walk up to a woman and say "I have no money but would you go out with me anyway?" and see how far you get with that. Your providing for another person because there is no way in hell any self-respecting woman is going to pay for dates or for anything else in the relationship. You're the man, you provide.

Does a lack of money limit your options while in a relationship? Sure, but it's not the end of the world.

I'm not saying it's the end of the world but you can pretty much kiss goodbye any chance of dating.

Costa Fierro wrote:

Freefall11111 wrote:Dating has nothing to do with providing money for another.

Walk up to a woman and say "I have no money but would you go out with me anyway?" and see how far you get with that. Your providing for another person because there is no way in hell any self-respecting woman is going to pay for dates or for anything else in the relationship. You're the man, you provide.

Does a lack of money limit your options while in a relationship? Sure, but it's not the end of the world.

I'm not saying it's the end of the world but you can pretty much kiss goodbye any chance of dating.

Some of my best dates have been cheap wine and fast food in a public park. I'm as poor as fuck.

Costa Fierro wrote:

Freefall11111 wrote:Dating has nothing to do with providing money for another.

Walk up to a woman and say "I have no money but would you go out with me anyway?" and see how far you get with that. Your providing for another person because there is no way in hell any self-respecting woman is going to pay for dates or for anything else in the relationship. You're the man, you provide.

Your perception of women and relationship dynamics is way skewed.

Imperializt Russia wrote:Your perception of women and relationship dynamics is way skewed.

"Perception". That's an interesting word for "fact".

Bakery Hill wrote:Some of my best dates have been cheap wine and fast food in a public park. I'm as poor as fuck.

5/10. Needed more dragons to be believable.

There are those times when you think a relationship will last forever. And then it doesn't. Broke up with my gf a few years ago, even though we have a daughter (born after our split). The reason was very simple, it wasn't gonna last and at least now we stayed friends. Have no desire to find a new gf but you never know what might happen.

Costa Fierro wrote:

Imperializt Russia wrote:Your perception of women and relationship dynamics is way skewed.

"Perception". That's an interesting word for "fact".

Bakery Hill wrote:Some of my best dates have been cheap wine and fast food in a public park. I'm as poor as fuck.

5/10. Needed more dragons to be believable.

Why the fuck would I lie to you hahaha? What do I get out of it?

Bakery Hill wrote:

Costa Fierro wrote:
"Perception". That's an interesting word for "fact".



5/10. Needed more dragons to be believable.

Why the fuck would I lie to you hahaha? What do I get out of it?

Tbf, I would say you don't always need to pay for dates, but yeah, having money works out pretty well. No girl always wants to pay for a date, taking turns is wise.

Imperializt Russia wrote:

Cecil Palmer wrote:
It always boosts your self-confidence and sense of self-worth to have a job. You're right about it making friends stand up, too. Altogether, jobs are great for almost all aspects of your life.

I'm poor as shit because I'm a student running on money fumes (I have a grand and a half to pay of tuition fees).

Is it bad that I just believe that dating will go poorly because I can't afford to do anything.
The girl I was talking to on Tinder stopped replying last week, so that's not helped anything.

1. It shows a bit of a lack of confidence to be able to keep her attention WITHOUT buying her anything or "affording" to do anything, but otherwise I'd say your worry is perfectly normal. I used to have it until I figured out that I don't need money to impress a woman, because what I do with my money is what matters, not impress her with my bank account; and if I can do things without money then even better. Money is a tool, you don't necessarily need it to show your character, but it's good to know you can do things with it.

2. Meh. I wouldn't worry about not getting too lucky on Tindr.

Trumpostan wrote:There are those times when you think a relationship will last forever. And then it doesn't. Broke up with my gf a few years ago, even though we have a daughter (born after our split). The reason was very simple, it wasn't gonna last and at least now we stayed friends. Have no desire to find a new gf but you never know what might happen.

Well you should. We're social creatures.

Costa Fierro wrote:

Freefall11111 wrote:Dating has nothing to do with providing money for another.

Walk up to a woman and say "I have no money but would you go out with me anyway?" and see how far you get with that. Your providing for another person because there is no way in hell any self-respecting woman is going to pay for dates or for anything else in the relationship. You're the man, you provide.

I've literally said that to women, that I have no money to spend for a date (and when I say that, I don't mean "I'm poor as shit and have literally no money", they know I have money because I'm always buying food lol, what I mean is "I don't have money to spend on you based on my budget"), but that if they want we can hang out and I can cook for them.

They take the offer rather well. What women want is to spend time with you and for you to do things for them. Money, or lack thereof, is not going to make you or break you.

Now, if you live with your parents, and they don't let you bring women to the house, then that's a separate issue. But money is important, again, to do things with it, not just to keep it in a bank account. The reason why people go and earn money is to expand the range of what they can do, not to have it there "just in case" something happens.

Like I said before, if you think that money is just to have a rainy day fund for the rest of your life, you should meditate about that first.

Cecil Palmer wrote:

Eastern Theena wrote:I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this before, or if it's entirely accurate, but I think one of the best ways to get into a relationship is to get a real job first.

I know that I used to have a lot of trouble talking to people in real life, and had problems with my looks but when I began working I slowly had less trouble talking to other people. I think it gives an extra boost of confidence (somehow) and conversations about funny things that happen at work are more entertaining and easier to get into then discussing the weather or each others video game adventures. And it was also after I got my first job that I began noticing which of my friends would keep asking for stuff and which ones were content. Kind of shows the persons character that I never noticed before I started working, which to me is important.

It always boosts your self-confidence and sense of self-worth to have a job. You're right about it making friends stand up, too. Altogether, jobs are great for almost all aspects of your life.

That is not always true. My job has done more or less the exact opposite for me, with the exception of making some friends it has definitely made my life worse.

G-Tech Corporation wrote:

Bakery Hill wrote:Why the fuck would I lie to you hahaha? What do I get out of it?

Tbf, I would say you don't always need to pay for dates, but yeah, having money works out pretty well. No girl always wants to pay for a date, taking turns is wise.

In a sense this is true.

There's women who want to go dutch all the time. I've dated a couple of women who were that way, wouldn't let me pay for the date. When I asked them they simply said "I am not used for a man to pay for my share". I can respect that.