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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:53 am

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Abidawe wrote:
And on this: well no shit, this thread is about getting into a relationship, not getting yourself laid


I already have a date for Friday and I did it my way: Just call, talk and have a sense of humor, and come out with it.

Shocking, I know.


Does having a bad sense of humor help? :blush:
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:53 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
I already have a date for Friday and I did it my way: Just call, talk and have a sense of humor, and come out with it.

Shocking, I know.


Does having a bad sense of humor help? :blush:


Only if your bad sense of humor keeps her amused :p
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Postby Alvecia » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:54 am

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Abidawe wrote:
And on this: well no shit, this thread is about getting into a relationship, not getting yourself laid


I already have a date for Friday and I did it my way: Just call, talk and have a sense of humor, and come out with it.

Shocking, I know.

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Postby Chessmistress » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:19 am

My suggestion for heterosexual guys who wish to get and maintain a relationship is very simple: just treat women as equal human beings.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:21 am

Chessmistress wrote:My suggestion for heterosexual guys who wish to get and maintain a relationship is very simple: just treat women as equal human beings.


If only this was the only thing that is needed to say here...
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Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

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Postby Arkinesia » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:23 am

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Chessmistress wrote:My suggestion for heterosexual guys who wish to get and maintain a relationship is very simple: just treat women as equal human beings.

If only this was the only thing that is needed to say here...

It certainly works better than anything you'll find on /r/creepypms.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:25 am

Arkinesia wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:If only this was the only thing that is needed to say here...

It certainly works better than anything you'll find on /r/creepypms.


No, I mean, seriously, I wish that was the ONLY thing needed to say here about the issue and better yet, that people would just get it.
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Postby May Mays » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:29 am

Chessmistress wrote:My suggestion for heterosexual guys who wish to get and maintain a relationship is very simple: just treat women as equal human beings.

Just treat a woman like your bros

This is sound advice.

Don't be super ridiculously polite, or any of that crap. Just treat women like you treat your bros.
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Postby Post War America » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:29 am

I would also argue confidence helps. At the very least in limited experience of what doesn't work, I've found that everybody appreciates confidence.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:30 am

Post War America wrote:I would also argue confidence helps. At the very least in limited experience of what doesn't work, I've found that everybody appreciates confidence.

Confidence isn't really a choice. It is hard to be confident in something you have no experience in.
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Postby May Mays » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:32 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Post War America wrote:I would also argue confidence helps. At the very least in limited experience of what doesn't work, I've found that everybody appreciates confidence.

Confidence isn't really a choice. It is hard to be confident in something you have no experience in.

No it isn't. You just put your best James Earl Jones voice on, and keep telling yourself not to be a fkng pussy.
It's just me against the world.

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Postby Post War America » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:33 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Post War America wrote:I would also argue confidence helps. At the very least in limited experience of what doesn't work, I've found that everybody appreciates confidence.

Confidence isn't really a choice. It is hard to be confident in something you have no experience in.


Something something fake it until you make something something. All I know is that severe lack of it is a bad thing.
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Postby Kelinfort » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:36 am

Chessmistress wrote:My suggestion for heterosexual guys who wish to get and maintain a relationship is very simple: just treat women as equal human beings.

And to the weird, creepy bisexual/pansexual men? :p

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:43 am

May Mays wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Confidence isn't really a choice. It is hard to be confident in something you have no experience in.

No it isn't. You just put your best James Earl Jones voice on, and keep telling yourself not to be a fkng pussy.

That doesn't really help if you basically are.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:44 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
I already have a date for Friday and I did it my way: Just call, talk and have a sense of humor, and come out with it.

Shocking, I know.


Does having a bad sense of humor help? :blush:


Obviously
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:46 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Post War America wrote:I would also argue confidence helps. At the very least in limited experience of what doesn't work, I've found that everybody appreciates confidence.

Confidence isn't really a choice. It is hard to be confident in something you have no experience in.

You will never have a career in management with that attitude.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:47 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Confidence isn't really a choice. It is hard to be confident in something you have no experience in.

You will never have a career in management with that attitude.

I am quite sure I won't anyway, nor would I really want one.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:53 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:You will never have a career in management with that attitude.

I am quite sure I won't anyway, nor would I really want one.

Bolsheviks need managers too.
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Postby May Mays » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:57 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:
May Mays wrote:No it isn't. You just put your best James Earl Jones voice on, and keep telling yourself not to be a fkng pussy.

That doesn't really help if you basically are.

Sure it does.

You have to keep repeating it in your head, as well as more positive thoughts like "why should I give a shit if I get rejected or not?" and "what's the worst that could happen?" Eventually, you will get over yourself. Doesn't matter how confident you are etc blah blah if you can't even talk to a girl. It's as simple as that.
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Postby Seraven » Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:25 am

May Mays wrote:
Seraven wrote:
Most of NS are.

Anyway, how do you do when you haven't been able to move on from your past love life?

You just need to realize that they are a woman and probably have a dozen numbers on their phone already in mind a couple of hours after you split.


Well...I don't think women that I fell in love is that easy on the terms of getting numbers of men they like that fast.
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Chessmistress wrote:My suggestion for heterosexual guys who wish to get and maintain a relationship is very simple: just treat women as equal human beings.


It's a bit possible for me but...I think I always see women that I like in the terms of my own "image/imagination" and less about their flawed human version. :(
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:40 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:Penis size talk ends here.

It's not a topic suitable for NSG.

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Didn't we use to have a thread that was entirely about dick size? And didn't it last at least a week?
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:44 am

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Arkinesia wrote:It certainly works better than anything you'll find on /r/creepypms.


No, I mean, seriously, I wish that was the ONLY thing needed to say here about the issue and better yet, that people would just get it.


I wish it was something that didn't need to be said at all.
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Postby Chessmistress » Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:46 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Chessmistress wrote:My suggestion for heterosexual guys who wish to get and maintain a relationship is very simple: just treat women as equal human beings.

And to the weird, creepy bisexual/pansexual men? :p


It depends. I don't think they're creepy, I think that very often they're WAY more interesting than hetero guys.
But I guess they can have HUGE problems dealing with more or less 63% women:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/gla ... 0245c57d6a
While 63 percent of those surveyed said they’d opt out of traditional labels like “homosexual,” “heterosexual” and “bisexual,” the same percentage also said they wouldn’t date a man who has slept with another man.

It's barely understandable for me, since it's the very opposite reaction I, as bisexual woman, got: most men seems actually turned on by the fact that the woman is bisexual.
I also guess there are many problems, and shame, when you have to ask for anal sex to an hetero woman. I never dated a bisexual guy but I suppose they almost universally enjoy it, since even some hetero guys enjoy it: incidentally, the most testosteronic ones - it may be due they don't feel the need to look masculine at any time, since they really are.

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Post War America wrote:I would also argue confidence helps. At the very least in limited experience of what doesn't work, I've found that everybody appreciates confidence.

Confidence isn't really a choice. It is hard to be confident in something you have no experience in.

But it isn't so hard to pretend to be confident, especially if she's unexperienced too, so she cannot realize if you are really confident or you're just trying to look confident. I wouldn't classify trying to look confident as "deception", since we all do it in many other fields, especially on workplace.
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Radical Feminist, caring about the oppressed gender, that's why I have a strong sense of justice.

PRO:
Radical Feminism (proudly SWERF - moderately TERF),
Gender abolitionism,
birth control and population control,
affirmative ongoing VERBAL consent,
death penalty for rapists.

AGAINST:
patriarchy,
pornography,
heteronormativity,
domestic violence and femicide.


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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:48 am

May Mays wrote:
Chessmistress wrote:My suggestion for heterosexual guys who wish to get and maintain a relationship is very simple: just treat women as equal human beings.

Just treat a woman like your bros

This is sound advice.

Don't be super ridiculously polite, or any of that crap. Just treat women like you treat your bros.


Really, I just treat everybody pretty similarly, whether they're a friend or a girl I wanna get with. Why? Not because of some dumb playboy rules, but because its a good rule of thumb in life, just be yourself, be a good guy overall.

If I don't like a person, however, I can be a colossal, colossal ass.

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Postby Arkinesia » Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:40 pm

Chessmistress wrote:It's barely understandable for me, since it's the very opposite reaction I, as bisexual woman, got: most men seems actually turned on by the fact that the woman is bisexual.
I also guess there are many problems, and shame, when you have to ask for anal sex to an hetero woman. I never dated a bisexual guy but I suppose they almost universally enjoy it, since even some hetero guys enjoy it: incidentally, the most testosteronic ones - it may be due they don't feel the need to look masculine at any time, since they really are.

Bi guy, can confirm, being bi girl is definitely a plus. For sexy reasons, yes, but for other reasons too.
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