Two Police Shot in Dallas

[Ethel mermania]

The organization points to joanne chesmerand as a spirtiual leader. Blm is a follow up to the black panthers and the weather underground. Black Lives do in fact matter. BLM is a terrorist group and should be treated as such.

Surely, all the people down there downtown, THOUSANDS of people, are now terrorists, according to you?

Everyone who protesTed an unlawful police killing is a member of blm?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Surely, all the people down there downtown, THOUSANDS of people, are now terrorists, according to you?

Everyone who protesTed an unlawful police killing is a member of blm?

What if I said yes? Would you then say every single one of those people are terrorists, despite the fact yesterday's protests before the shooting were amicable and there was no disrespect towards the cops en masse and everyone was shocked a the shooting?

[Val Halla]

>Blm
>"Peaceful and amicable to cops"

♬ One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong... ♪

Were you here yesterday? Or is this the same telepathic powers everyone has been showing they suddenly grew capable of overnight?

Generalising knows no borders, remember.

[The East Marches]

Is it ok to post Ron Paul memes? Can we call this a happening?

I'm surprised the Dallas cops were targeted. Houston PD is a worse but not Chicago tier. I thought they of all would be targeted. From what I've heard Dallas is pretty alright. I'm genuinely surprised this happened there.

[Shonburg]

Okay then surely you can go ahead and make an international call from France and tell Chief Brown that BLM was behind this and that the snipers were BLM sympathizers since surely you have telepathic powers to figure out what the hell's going on here in Dallas. Clearly you're so much better than the police department at this. I don't understand why don't you bring your ass from France to the U.S. if you have such telepathic powers.

Or is it that you prefer to talk shit before things come to light?

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Anyways, any updates on the situation that DO NOT involve crazy conjecture?

>BLM endorse killing cops (among many other joyeusetés of the kind).
>Cops were killed at a BLM rally.
>One of the snipers, at least, appear to be black from witnesses descriptions.
>"Assuming that it's BLM who did it is purely ludicrous!"

Sure mate, sure.
Anyway, don't take it bad but, while I am for waiting for further updates, I'm not hypocritical enough to don't voice my opinion that it's probably some members of racial supremacist group who previously asked for said crime to be commited that is indeed responsible for it.

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[Ethel mermania]

That is fair, but has nothing to do with blm.

I'd argue BLM isn't anything to do with anything. It's not a proper organisation, it's not a proper movement. It's a rallying cry existing movements have taken on, and other movements have sprung up around, and are all roughly allied around.

It is obviously likely that people who would attack police over their treatment of ethnic minorities would also ally with the rallying cry of "black lives matter". They believe that society thinks black lives matter so little, they're willing to kill police officers or advocate such over it.
This does not make BLM a "terrorist movement" or somehow encourage such violence.
These violent people already existed, were already motivated (I'm pretty sure the Black Panthers haven't actually gone anywhere) and the existence of a rallying cry like "BLM" does not change them or motivate them further.

That is not what alicia garza, one of the co-founders of blm has to say

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/indi ... indid=2670

[Minzerland]

Is it ok to post Ron Paul memes? Can we call this a happening?

I'm surprised the Dallas cops were targeted. Houston PD is a worse but not Chicago tier. I thought they of all would be targeted. From what I've heard Dallas is pretty alright. I'm genuinely surprised this happened there.

[Aelex]

And like I said, if you feel so strongly about this opinion being true, then you should probably be here in Dallas aiding the investigation instead of typing from the comfort of your house in France.

So following this logic, I'm not allowed to have a political opinion if I'm not running for president or a religious one if I'm not a priest?
That's rather... peculiar. I mean you know we're on a debate forum, right? The point is to have opinion on subjects and discuss them.

[Aelex]

Were you here yesterday? Or is this the same telepathic powers everyone has been showing they suddenly grew capable of overnight?

No, but BLM has quite an history with violent protests and damages caused on propriety. I mean, sure they may have changed and stopped with their arsons and stone throwing but it's rather unlikely, to say the less.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

And like I said, if you feel so strongly about this opinion being true, then you should probably be here in Dallas aiding the investigation instead of typing from the comfort of your house in France.

So following this logic, I'm not allowed to have a political opinion if I'm not running for president or a religious one if I'm not a priest?
That's rather... peculiar. I mean you know we're on a debate forum, right? The point is to have opinion on subjects and discuss them.

No, you can have an opinion.

But you're making conjectures which are supported by nothing but hot air instead of... anything of substance as to what is happening here in Dallas.

[Imperializt Russia]

I'd argue BLM isn't anything to do with anything. It's not a proper organisation, it's not a proper movement. It's a rallying cry existing movements have taken on, and other movements have sprung up around, and are all roughly allied around.

It is obviously likely that people who would attack police over their treatment of ethnic minorities would also ally with the rallying cry of "black lives matter". They believe that society thinks black lives matter so little, they're willing to kill police officers or advocate such over it.
This does not make BLM a "terrorist movement" or somehow encourage such violence.
These violent people already existed, were already motivated (I'm pretty sure the Black Panthers haven't actually gone anywhere) and the existence of a rallying cry like "BLM" does not change them or motivate them further.

That is not what alicia garza, one of the co-founders of blm has to say

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/indi ... indid=2670

I'm sure she does think very highly of what she believes she's built.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Were you here yesterday? Or is this the same telepathic powers everyone has been showing they suddenly grew capable of overnight?

No, but BLM has quite an history with violent protests and damages caused on propriety. I mean, sure they may have changed and stopped with their arsons and stone throwing but it's rather unlikely, to say the less.

This did not happen yesterday though.

Just because something happens somewhere else has no relevance on what happened down here. The protestors were not causing property damage nor were they violent.

Whoever the shooters were, they don't seem to be related to the protestors.

[Ethel mermania]

Everyone who protesTed an unlawful police killing is a member of blm?

What if I said yes? Would you then say every single one of those people are terrorists, despite the fact yesterday's protests before the shooting were amicable and there was no disrespect towards the cops en masse and everyone was shocked a the shooting?

The answer is in fact no. But to your hypothetical the answer would be they are supporters of terroism,. Much like whites who like the kkk, but don't go out burning crosses, it is support of a terrorist organization.

The question I think you are asking, WoulD they be guilty of terrorism for marching in a peaceful demonstration? Of course not. Not everything any criminal does is criminal in nature. Just the specific acts of criminality.

[Ethel mermania]

That is not what alicia garza, one of the co-founders of blm has to say

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/indi ... indid=2670

I'm sure she does think very highly of what she believes she's built.

I am sure al-BaghdadI is proud of his work as well.

[Aelex]

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[Soldati Senza Confini]

Chief Brown is releasing a statement right now on what's been going on all night.

[Ifreann]

Yeah, I mean, before someone first wrote "#BlackLivesMatter" on Twitter, no one in the US would have ever considered taking up arms against a government they feel is tyrannical.

That is fair, but has nothing to do with blm.

It has everything to do with your criticism of the BLM protest movement. If they are a terrorist group because they have, as you say, created an environment that encourages violence, then everyone who's ever talked about "Second Amendment solutions" is too. An environment that encourages violence has probably existed in the US since is foundation. Your entire cultural fascination with violently overthrowing your government is a terrorist if BLM is.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

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The "suspect" that people can point to was a person of interest who was released shortly after finding out they were not related

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Chief Brown has said that one of the suspects has said that they were not related to any groups, among other things.

[Cabana]

The Police Chief said the suspect did it because he "hated white people" and "wanted to kill white cops".

[Aelex]

No, you can have an opinion.

But you're making conjectures which are supported by nothing but hot air instead of... anything of substance as to what is happening here in Dallas.

So my opinion that the snipers were probably black supremacists related to B.L.M and the reasonment which pushed me to conclude to that based on already know facts is somehow "supported by nothing but hot hair" while your categorical affirmation that the shooters can't possibly be related in any way to B.L.M despite the movement's history seeming to prove otherwise and not a tiny little shred of evidence supporting your own claim, quite ironical btw when you try to use it to dismiss someone's else theory, is, however, something we can all assume to be the truth?

Such double standard. Much reasoning. Very logical. Wow!

[Soldati Senza Confini]

The Police Chief said the suspect did it because he "hated white people" and "wanted to kill white cops".

Where did you hear this? I am listening to Brown's statement live right now and I haven't heard him say it.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

No, you can have an opinion.

But you're making conjectures which are supported by nothing but hot air instead of... anything of substance as to what is happening here in Dallas.

So my opinion that the snipers were probably black supremacists related to B.L.M and the reasonment which pushed me to conclude to that based on already know facts is somehow "supported by nothing but hot hair" while your categorical affirmation that the shooters can't possibly be related in any way to B.L.M despite the movement's history seeming to prove otherwise and not a tiny little shred of evidence supporting your own claim, quite ironical btw when you try to use it to dismiss someone's else theory, is, however, something we can all assume to be the truth?

Such double standard. Much reasoning. Very logical. Wow!

Chief Brown already said one of the suspects said they were not related to any groups. So your rebuttal was dead wrong anyways.

[Cabana]

The Police Chief said the suspect did it because he "hated white people" and "wanted to kill white cops".

Where did you hear this? I am listening to Brown's statement live right now and I haven't heard him say it.

I am too, I just heard him say it a few minutes ago.

[Ifreann]

The Police Chief said the suspect did it because he "hated white people" and "wanted to kill white cops".

Where did you hear this? I am listening to Brown's statement live right now and I haven't heard him say it.

Maybe someone's doing a greed and death and making up things about current events.

[Cabana]

Where did you hear this? I am listening to Brown's statement live right now and I haven't heard him say it.

Maybe someone's doing a greed and death and making up things about current events.

I'm not, I heard him say that. I'm currently watching the conference on TV right now