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Postby Chinese Peoples » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:45 am

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The police are politically at fault for starting this entire escapade, as a whole. I am not pointing fingers at any particular police personnel, but the institution. Politics exist on a parallel dimension distinct from the legal and the moral.


The police are at fault for starting the protest as a whole, when they weren't even the organizers of said protest?

When did I say that the police are starting the protest? :eyebrow:
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Postby Norstal » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:45 am

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Corrian wrote:I'm not even going to bother responding to someone who thinks cops doing their jobs should get in trouble for some reason.

Well, if cops are abusing their authority while doing their job then they should get in trouble. That said, CP is pushing for something crazy and counterproductive.

I wish more people learn that the police is not some monolithic entity. Why should cops who did a good job get punished.
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Postby Shonburg » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:46 am

Chinese Peoples wrote:
Shonburg wrote:The police are politically at fault for starting this entire escapade, as a whole. I am not pointing fingers at any particular police personnel, but the institution. Politics exist on a parallel dimension distinct from the legal and the moral.

They were shot by snipers who were not part of the crowd, if you'd read the news you'd know this.

As for the second bit, police are part of the legal system.

The police are not part of the legal system.[/quote]
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Postby New Giliberafta » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:46 am

American Imperial State wrote:DART officer murdered by the thugs identified as 43 year old Brent Thompson

We need retribution against the uncivilized apes.

I am praying to the god i dont believe in you are referring to murderous thugs.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:46 am

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Free Terra wrote:I hope they get executed, I wonder why people in TEXAS are getting shot over some issues in Minnesota and Louisiana. As I said, what happened is nothing short of terrorism.

We don't know why the officers were attacked. The suspects are being uncooperative.


I personally think it's opportunistic revenge attack.
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Postby Shonburg » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:46 am

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American Imperial State wrote:DART officer murdered by the thugs identified as 43 year old Brent Thompson

We need retribution against the uncivilized apes.

Problematic wording is problematic.

I already mentioned this to him multiple times.
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Postby Chinese Peoples » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:46 am

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Chinese Peoples wrote:They were shot by snipers who were not part of the crowd, if you'd read the news you'd know this.

As for the second bit, police are part of the legal system.

The police are not part of the legal system.

Their duty is to protect the populace and see that laws are enforced and abided by.[/quote]
Law enforcement are part of the executive branch. :p
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Postby Free Terra » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:47 am

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Free Terra wrote:I hope they get executed, I wonder why people in TEXAS are getting shot over some issues in Minnesota and Louisiana. As I said, what happened is nothing short of terrorism.

We don't know why the officers were attacked. The suspects are being uncooperative.

Considering the context, and that the police force was the primary target, I'd say it has to be related. As to their lack of cooperation, I'd say they deserve injury, but today has had enough senseless violence.
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Postby Eol Sha » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:47 am

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Eol Sha wrote:I'd be surprised if the perpetrators get anything less than death or life imprisonment. You don't kill five cops and get forty years with parole. Especially not in Texas.

I hope they get executed, I wonder why people in TEXAS are getting shot over some issues in Minnesota and Louisiana. As I said, what happened is nothing short of terrorism.

I don't.

From what I've read, one of the shooters yelled something involving the "End Times". I'd be cautious in assuming that these shootings had something to do with the two most recent high profile shootings. This probably involved some level of planning that took longer to come up with than one or two days.

Depends on their motives.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:48 am

Chinese Peoples wrote:Law enforcement are part of the executive branch. :p


Now that's just disingenuous.
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Postby North Arkana » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:48 am

Liriena wrote:
American Imperial State wrote:DART officer murdered by the thugs identified as 43 year old Brent Thompson

We need retribution against the uncivilized apes.

Problematic wording is problematic.

It's his usual modus operandi. Learned it real quick after his first run in too. Makes it annoying, but nothing really to do about it.
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Postby Shonburg » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:48 am

Chinese Peoples wrote:
Shonburg wrote:The police are not part of the legal system.

Their duty is to protect the populace and see that laws are enforced and abided by.

Law enforcement are part of the executive branch. :p[/quote]
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:49 am

Eol Sha wrote:
Free Terra wrote:I hope they get executed, I wonder why people in TEXAS are getting shot over some issues in Minnesota and Louisiana. As I said, what happened is nothing short of terrorism.

I don't.

From what I've read, one of the shooters yelled something involving the "End Times". I'd be cautious in assuming that these shootings had something to do with the two most recent high profile shootings. This probably involved some level of planning that took longer to come up with than one or two days.

Depends on their motives.


We don't even know their motives :/ this sucks.
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Postby Chinese Peoples » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:49 am

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Chinese Peoples wrote:Law enforcement are part of the executive branch. :p


Now that's just disingenuous.

Do you dispute it? :twisted:
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Postby Frank Zipper » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:49 am

American Imperial State wrote:We need retribution against the uncivilized apes.


What sort of retribution do you mean? And against whom, as I don't think we even know who the snipers are?
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:49 am

Chinese Peoples wrote:
Shonburg wrote:The police are not part of the legal system.

Their duty is to protect the populace and see that laws are enforced and abided by.

Law enforcement are part of the executive branch. :p[/quote]

If you're going to agree that this line of conversation is off-topic, as you indicated a few posts back, then could you please actually drop it, and not just invoke your agreement with me when you don't have a good answer for a question or response to an argument?

Thanks much.

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Postby Eol Sha » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:49 am

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:I don't.

From what I've read, one of the shooters yelled something involving the "End Times". I'd be cautious in assuming that these shootings had something to do with the two most recent high profile shootings. This probably involved some level of planning that took longer to come up with than one or two days.

Depends on their motives.


We don't even know their motives :/ this sucks.

Who knows, maybe it's a bunch of sovereign citizens. They've been known to attack cops before.
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Postby Shonburg » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:50 am

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Shonburg wrote:We don't know why the officers were attacked. The suspects are being uncooperative.

Considering the context, and that the police force was the primary target, I'd say it has to be related. As to their lack of cooperation, I'd say they deserve injury, but today has had enough senseless violence.

I doubt it, this seems to planned to just be revenge for the killings.
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Postby Norstal » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:50 am

Eol Sha wrote:
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We don't even know their motives :/ this sucks.

Who knows, maybe it's a bunch of sovereign citizens. They've been known to attack cops before.

Not a bad guess. That thought didn't cross my mind.
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Postby Free Terra » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:51 am

Eol Sha wrote:
Free Terra wrote:I hope they get executed, I wonder why people in TEXAS are getting shot over some issues in Minnesota and Louisiana. As I said, what happened is nothing short of terrorism.

I don't.

From what I've read, one of the shooters yelled something involving the "End Times". I'd be cautious in assuming that these shootings had something to do with the two most recent high profile shootings. This probably involved some level of planning that took longer to come up with than one or two days.

Depends on their motives.

If that's true, then they have one HELL of a scapegoat. If they are doing this over the recent police brutality cases, then it's terrorism, if not, I still say they should be executed. People like that can't be rehabilitated, and they shouldn't be given life imprisonment, because then we'd be paying for them.
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Postby United States Kingdom » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:51 am

This is very sad.

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Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Thanks much.

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Postby Free Terra » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:52 am

Shonburg wrote:
Free Terra wrote:Considering the context, and that the police force was the primary target, I'd say it has to be related. As to their lack of cooperation, I'd say they deserve injury, but today has had enough senseless violence.

I doubt it, this seems to planned to just be revenge for the killings.

Come to think of it yeah, it's a good political scapegoat to use if they are just crazed madmen. Regardless, people like that are too dangerous to let go.
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Postby American Imperial State » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:52 am

Frank Zipper wrote:
American Imperial State wrote:We need retribution against the uncivilized apes.


What sort of retribution do you mean? And against whom, as I don't think we even know who the snipers are?


The murderers. Did you see that video? Those fucking savages just executed him.
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