Two Police Shot in Dallas

[Norstal]

You...want them to be prosecuted for doing their jobs?

Yes. Tax planning professionals are frequently prosecuted for assisting tax evasion, and that's just part of their job and its risks. Attorneys-general and solicitors-general are also frequently prosecuted for raising frivolous or libelous suits.

On purpose. If they did it without malice usually they are forgiven.

[American Imperial State]

DART officer murdered by the thugs identified as 43 year old Brent Thompson

We need retribution against the uncivilized apes.

[Shonburg]

You...want them to be prosecuted for doing their jobs?

Yes. Tax planning professionals are frequently prosecuted for assisting tax evasion, and that's just part of their job and its risks. Attorneys-general and solicitors-general are also frequently prosecuted for raising frivolous or libelous suits.

Tax evasion is a crime and is not part a tax planner's job. Frivolous and libelous suits are also not part of AG and SGs jobs.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

You...want them to be prosecuted for doing their jobs?

Yes. Tax planning professionals are frequently prosecuted for assisting tax evasion, and that's just part of their job and its risks. Attorneys-general and solicitors-general are also frequently prosecuted for raising frivolous or libelous suits.

Your examples don't apply, your reasoning is specious, and your argument is frankly idiotic.

Not to mention that we're getting off-topic for this thread.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

DART officer murdered by the thugs identified as 43 year old Brent Thompson

I will be honest, in all my years of being around DART, I have never seen him before.

My condolences to the family, nevertheless.

[North Arkana]

DART officer murdered by the thugs identified as 43 year old Brent Thompson

We need retribution against the uncivilized apes.

You keep using those words, and by knowledge of how you usually post around here, I'm sure you know full well how people think of that, and how those words have concepts associated with them.

[Chinese Peoples]

Yes, failed. They should have exercised restraint better than they did, and now they must be held responsible for all this mess. I am not saying that the shooter doesn't have a part, but the police are the instigators, and they should be dealt with internal disciplinary procedures and prosecuted to the fullest extent under all relevant laws.

So let me get this straight...

Police officers were placed on patrol surrounding the BLM movement, and by all account were quite friendly with them, get ambushed by four gunmen.

The police are t fault and need to be disciplined for... what exactly?

Disciplined for not inspecting the crowd for controlled weapons, like guns. If the place was indeed so incendiary, then people should not have been allowed to carry guns into it.

And no, this is 100% the fault of the gunmen. THey didn't play a part; at no point are you legally or morally allowed to kill an innocent person. The gunment are completely at fault here, not "partly".

The police are politically at fault for starting this entire escapade, as a whole. I am not pointing fingers at any particular police personnel, but the institution. Politics exist on a parallel dimension distinct from the legal and the moral.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

We need retribution against the uncivilized apes.

Not gonna happen.

[Frank Zipper]

Well this is going to be the big election issue, and ramp up tension even more in the process.

A terrible thing, but it wasn't entirely unexpected.

[Eol Sha]

That's not how the justice system should work.

True, but in all seriousness, it's unlikely that those caught for questioning will face anything but an extremely cruel or extremely lenient punishment for their terrorism.

I'd be surprised if the perpetrators get anything less than death or life imprisonment. You don't kill five cops and get forty years with parole. Especially not in Texas.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I'm not even going to bother responding to someone who thinks cops doing their jobs should get in trouble for some reason.

Same. I mean, people here know that I tend to be enormously skeptical of controversial uses of force by the police, and that my sympathies tend to be with the Sandra Blands of the world, but in this case, I am absolutely on the side of the police.

[Chinese Peoples]

Yes. Tax planning professionals are frequently prosecuted for assisting tax evasion, and that's just part of their job and its risks. Attorneys-general and solicitors-general are also frequently prosecuted for raising frivolous or libelous suits.

Tax evasion is a crime and is not part a tax planner's job. Frivolous and libelous suits are also not part of AG and SGs jobs.

Yes, they are. Attorneys-general and solicitors-general may raise suits that seem perfectly reasonable to them, but are found to be frivolous or libelous by the courts.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

And no, this is 100% the fault of the gunmen. THey didn't play a part; at no point are you legally or morally allowed to kill an innocent person. The gunment are completely at fault here, not "partly".

The police are politically at fault for starting this entire escapade, as a whole. I am not pointing fingers at any particular police personnel, but the institution. Politics exist on a parallel dimension distinct from the legal and the moral.

The police are at fault for starting the protest as a whole, when they weren't even the organizers of said protest?

[Norstal]

I'm open to the idea of the police being disarmed during patrol, similar to what the UK has.

I am not open to the idea of completely disarming the police.

Of course, disarmed police patrol is predicated upon the condition of a largely unarmed populace, greatly reducing the chances of an incident involving or needing a firearm in the first place. Heavily armed and armored police forces are a result of a heavily armed populace. Reducing the level of armament among the general population is opposed tooth and nail by the right, which means the left cannot get the disarmed or less armed police they desire. US police are trained to being on a bit of a hair trigger because deadly weapons are so damn commonplace, and that results in deadly incidents on both sides of the fence.

Yeah and that's one reason why I'm against disarming the police. Like I said in a previous post, depending on the region, it can work I think. Especially in places where gun restriction is high.

[Shonburg]

So let me get this straight...

Police officers were placed on patrol surrounding the BLM movement, and by all account were quite friendly with them, get ambushed by four gunmen.

The police are t fault and need to be disciplined for... what exactly?

Disciplined for not inspecting the crowd for controlled weapons, like guns. If the place was indeed so incendiary, then people should not have been allowed to carry guns into it.

And no, this is 100% the fault of the gunmen. THey didn't play a part; at no point are you legally or morally allowed to kill an innocent person. The gunment are completely at fault here, not "partly".

The police are politically at fault for starting this entire escapade, as a whole. I am not pointing fingers at any particular police personnel, but the institution. Politics exist on a parallel dimension distinct from the legal and the moral.

They were shot by snipers who were not part of the crowd, if you'd read the news you'd know this.

As for the second bit, police are part of the legal system.

[American Imperial State]

DART officer murdered by the thugs identified as 43 year old Brent Thompson

We need retribution against the uncivilized apes.

You keep using those words, and by knowledge of how you usually post around here, I'm sure you know full well how people think of that, and how those words have concepts associated with them.

The full force of the law.

[Norstal]

The police are politically at fault for starting this entire escapade, as a whole. I am not pointing fingers at any particular police personnel, but the institution. Politics exist on a parallel dimension distinct from the legal and the moral.

The police are at fault for starting the protest as a whole, when they weren't even the organizers of said protest?

Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown.

[Chinese Peoples]

Yes. Tax planning professionals are frequently prosecuted for assisting tax evasion, and that's just part of their job and its risks. Attorneys-general and solicitors-general are also frequently prosecuted for raising frivolous or libelous suits.

On purpose. If they did it without malice usually they are forgiven.

We're veering off course, like Yum said.

[Eol Sha]

I'm not even going to bother responding to someone who thinks cops doing their jobs should get in trouble for some reason.

Well, if cops are abusing their authority while doing their job then they should get in trouble. That said, CP is pushing for something crazy and counterproductive.

[Free Terra]

True, but in all seriousness, it's unlikely that those caught for questioning will face anything but an extremely cruel or extremely lenient punishment for their terrorism.

I'd be surprised if the perpetrators get anything less than death or life imprisonment. You don't kill five cops and get forty years with parole. Especially not in Texas.

I hope they get executed, I wonder why people in TEXAS are getting shot over some issues in Minnesota and Louisiana. As I said, what happened is nothing short of terrorism.

[Chinese Peoples]

The police are politically at fault for starting this entire escapade, as a whole. I am not pointing fingers at any particular police personnel, but the institution. Politics exist on a parallel dimension distinct from the legal and the moral.

They were shot by snipers who were not part of the crowd, if you'd read the news you'd know this.

As for the second bit, police are part of the legal system.[/quote]
The police are not part of the legal system.

[Zrhajan]

So let me get this straight...

Police officers were placed on patrol surrounding the BLM movement, and by all account were quite friendly with them, get ambushed by four gunmen.

The police are t fault and need to be disciplined for... what exactly?

Disciplined for not inspecting the crowd for controlled weapons, like guns. If the place was indeed so incendiary, then people should not have been allowed to carry guns into it.

And no, this is 100% the fault of the gunmen. THey didn't play a part; at no point are you legally or morally allowed to kill an innocent person. The gunment are completely at fault here, not "partly".

The police are politically at fault for starting this entire escapade, as a whole. I am not pointing fingers at any particular police personnel, but the institution. Politics exist on a parallel dimension distinct from the legal and the moral.

the shooters weren't even in the crowd, they were sniping from the rooftops. Furthermore, the crowd itself was not incendiary at all, as various people have said, it was extremely peaceful and the police was described as being friendly and courteous towards the crowd. this is entirely the fault of the gunmen, particularly given that a distinction must be made between different police departments, the Dallas PD is not to blame for the actions of the Baton Rouge PD, and thus should not be attacked for such.

[Shonburg]

I'd be surprised if the perpetrators get anything less than death or life imprisonment. You don't kill five cops and get forty years with parole. Especially not in Texas.

I hope they get executed, I wonder why people in TEXAS are getting shot over some issues in Minnesota and Louisiana. As I said, what happened is nothing short of terrorism.

We don't know why the officers were attacked. The suspects are being uncooperative.

[Liriena]

DART officer murdered by the thugs identified as 43 year old Brent Thompson

We need retribution against the uncivilized apes.

Problematic wording is problematic.

[Gauthier]

Nothing like seizing on current events to push edgy performance art.