Two Police Shot in Dallas

[Chinese Peoples]

Well, they have failed spectacularly at it, if it remained their intentions. Failure is a cause for reconsideration of what should they have.

Failure would have been letting the snipers get away with killing civilians.

They did injure one civilian woman, you know.

The cops did their job, like it or not.

I don't like it, and I intend to see them prosecuted to the fullest extent &c.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Failed spectacularly? They prevented what could have easily become as worse or even worse than Orlando.

Yes, failed. They should have exercised restraint better than they did, and now they must be held responsible for all this mess. I am not saying that the shooter doesn't have a part, but the police are the instigators, and they should be dealt with internal disciplinary procedures and prosecuted to the fullest extent under all relevant laws.

How do you solve a non-existent city-wide problem?

[Shonburg]

Because their weapon is used as a tool to protect the populace and keep the peace.

As so many black men of all ages have found out.

It is disingenuous to disarm the good cops to stop the bad ones, you know that. Don't use empty rhetoric. I want more scrutiny of police actions and for those that abuse their power to get punished, but disarming police is treating a symptom, not the problem.

[Zrhajan]

Failed spectacularly? They prevented what could have easily become as worse or even worse than Orlando.

Yes, failed. They should have exercised restraint better than they did, and now they must be held responsible for all this mess. I am not saying that the shooter doesn't have a part, but the police are the instigators, and they should be dealt with internal disciplinary procedures and prosecuted to the fullest extent under all relevant laws.

Are you sure you're in the right thread? this thread is the one about police getting sniped at in an unprovoked attack, not about the latest shooting by police. The police did not instigate this, not by any reasonable definition of the word instigate.

[Chinese Peoples]

Yes, failed. They should have exercised restraint better than they did, and now they must be held responsible for all this mess. I am not saying that the shooter doesn't have a part, but the police are the instigators, and they should be dealt with internal disciplinary procedures and prosecuted to the fullest extent under all relevant laws.

How do you solve a non-existent city-wide problem?

I think you're veering away from my point.

[Free Terra]

Okay what the fuck happened to peaceful protest and being civil? Civvies and cops were out there, posing for pictures together and having a generally okay time and then this happens, some vile scumsuckers take guns to people who have lives and families over what? To make a statement? If they are doing this to further some political shit, then it isn't activism anymore, it's terrorism.

When all suspects are arrested and interrogated, they should be sent to G-Bay like the other fear-mongering rats. It's disgusting to see something this appalling happen as a PEACEFUL protest was underway. This one, from the videos, actually did look peaceful until those monsters started shooting.

We don't need a race war in the middle of the most divisive era of our nation. Too many people have died over nothing. It's time for this bullshit to stop.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Failure would have been letting the snipers get away with killing civilians.

They did injure one civilian woman, you know.

The cops did their job, like it or not.

I don't like it, and I intend to see them prosecuted to the fullest extent &c.

See the police prosecuted for doing their job?

Right.

[Shonburg]

Yes, failed. They should have exercised restraint better than they did, and now they must be held responsible for all this mess. I am not saying that the shooter doesn't have a part, but the police are the instigators, and they should be dealt with internal disciplinary procedures and prosecuted to the fullest extent under all relevant laws.

How do you solve a non-existent city-wide problem?

I think he is a poe.

[Chinese Peoples]

They did injure one civilian woman, you know.

I don't like it, and I intend to see them prosecuted to the fullest extent &c.

See the police prosecuted for doing their job?

Yes, indeed. I never said to convict them, though; there is a difference. If it seems so strange, the governor/president can always pardon.

Right.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

How do you solve a non-existent city-wide problem?

I think you're veering away from my point.

What you're suggesting is that the Dallas police force is responsible for what happened tonight.

They are in no way responsible for what happened tonight, because the problem you are describing is not one that the Dallas police force has.

So again, how do you solve a non-existent city-wide problem?

[Corrian]

Failure would have been letting the snipers get away with killing civilians.

They did injure one civilian woman, you know.

The cops did their job, like it or not.

I don't like it, and I intend to see them prosecuted to the fullest extent &c.

You...want them to be prosecuted for doing their jobs?

What the hell?

[Liriena]

they should be sent to G-Bay like the other fear-mongering rats

With or without trial?

[Shonburg]

They did injure one civilian woman, you know.

I don't like it, and I intend to see them prosecuted to the fullest extent &c.

You...want them to be prosecuted for doing their jobs?

What the hell?

Like I said, I think he is being a poe.

[Seangoli]

Failed spectacularly? They prevented what could have easily become as worse or even worse than Orlando.

Yes, failed. They should have exercised restraint better than they did, and now they must be held responsible for all this mess. I am not saying that the shooter doesn't have a part, but the police are the instigators, and they should be dealt with internal disciplinary procedures and prosecuted to the fullest extent under all relevant laws.

So let me get this straight...

Police officers were placed on patrol surrounding the BLM movement, and by all account were quite friendly with them, get ambushed by four gunmen.

The police are t fault and need to be disciplined for... what exactly?

And no, this is 100% the fault of the gunmen. THey didn't play a part; at no point are you legally or morally allowed to kill an innocent person. The gunment are completely at fault here, not "partly".

[Eol Sha]

Okay what the fuck happened to peaceful protest and being civil? Civvies and cops were out there, posing for pictures together and having a generally okay time and then this happens, some vile scumsuckers take guns to people who have lives and families over what? To make a statement? If they are doing this to further some political shit, then it isn't activism anymore, it's terrorism.

When all suspects are arrested and interrogated, they should be sent to G-Bay like the other fear-mongering rats. It's disgusting to see something this appalling happen as a PEACEFUL protest was underway. This one, from the videos, actually did look peaceful until those monsters started shooting.

We don't need a race war in the middle of the most divisive era of our nation. Too many people have died over nothing. It's time for this bullshit to stop.

I don't think we live in the most divisive era. Not by a long shot. Nor do I think the perpetrators, whether they are terrorists or not, should be sent to Guantanamo Bay. US prisons are perfectly capable of housing a few more criminals.

[Zrhajan]

You...want them to be prosecuted for doing their jobs?

What the hell?

Like I said, I think he is being a poe.

My guess is that they posted on the wrong thread and are now frantically trying to justify it.

[Kubra]

Well folks tuck in for the night, there's probably not gonna be any more news until the morning.
Unless the bombs actually existed and blow up within the next half hour.

[Free Terra]

they should be sent to G-Bay like the other fear-mongering rats

With or without trial?

Preferably with, with the families of the victims present.
Without is not preferred, but anyone who wishes to spread chaos panic and hysteria like this needs to be locked in a cell far away from anyone they can hurt.

[Norstal]

I'm open to the idea of the police being disarmed during patrol, similar to what the UK has.

I am not open to the idea of completely disarming the police.

Do you or do you not agree that the people by their legislative representatives should decide if and how the police should be armed?

No, because I generally think people are stupid (that includes me). The police need guns to resolve certain kinds of conflicts or issues. It should be an available option and I'm not gonna tell them how to do their job if they are good at it.

I think it's a little too late to have officers disarmed, sadly.

With 300,000,000 (at least) guns in circulation in the US, that's almost a gun for every person in the US. That means criminals will always have the upper hand and there's nobody to protect the civilian population immediately.

Depending on the precinct, it can build public trust I think. Pairing an unarmed officer with an armed officer may work in places like LA, for example. The armed officer would be backup in case of escalation. It may be dangerous, but it's not impossible. I just don't want police in certain places to be quick with their guns.

[Eol Sha]

With or without trial?

Preferably with, with the families of the victims present.
Without is not preferred, but anyone who wishes to spread chaos panic and hysteria like this needs to be locked in a cell far away from anyone they can hurt.

That's not how the justice system should work.

[Chinese Peoples]

They did injure one civilian woman, you know.

I don't like it, and I intend to see them prosecuted to the fullest extent &c.

You...want them to be prosecuted for doing their jobs?

Yes. Tax planning professionals are frequently prosecuted for assisting tax evasion, and that's just part of their job and its risks. Attorneys-general and solicitors-general are also frequently prosecuted for raising frivolous or libelous suits.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

You...want them to be prosecuted for doing their jobs?

Yes. Tax planning professionals are frequently prosecuted for assisting tax evasion, and that's just part of their job and its risks. Attorneys-general and solicitors-general are also frequently prosecuted for raising frivolous or libelous suits.

And since U.S. police forces' job is to enforce the law and not protect you, they were doing their job.

[Free Terra]

Preferably with, with the families of the victims present.
Without is not preferred, but anyone who wishes to spread chaos panic and hysteria like this needs to be locked in a cell far away from anyone they can hurt.

That's not how the justice system should work.

True, but in all seriousness, it's unlikely that those caught for questioning will face anything but an extremely cruel or extremely lenient punishment for their terrorism.

[North Arkana]

My condolences to all families involved.

But I think it's time to address the issue at hand: disarm police. Let us hold the police to account, collectively. If one cannot handle the responsible use of a firearm, then none of them shall have it. If there's a lunatic in the house, none of its residents should have a gun; the lunatic can easily snatch the gun.

I'm open to the idea of the police being disarmed during patrol, similar to what the UK has.

I am not open to the idea of completely disarming the police.

Of course, disarmed police patrol is predicated upon the condition of a largely unarmed populace, greatly reducing the chances of an incident involving or needing a firearm in the first place. Heavily armed and armored police forces are a result of a heavily armed populace. Reducing the level of armament among the general population is opposed tooth and nail by the right, which means the left cannot get the disarmed or less armed police they desire. US police are trained to being on a bit of a hair trigger because deadly weapons are so damn commonplace, and that results in deadly incidents on both sides of the fence.

[Corrian]

I'm not even going to bother responding to someone who thinks cops doing their jobs should get in trouble for some reason.