Religious children are meaner than their secular counterpart

[United States of Atheism]

Religious children are meaner than their secular counterparts, study finds

Children from religious families are less kind and more punitive than those from non-religious households, according to a new study.

Academics from seven universities across the world studied Christian, Muslim and non-religious children to test the relationship between religion and morality.

They found that religious belief is a negative influence on children’s altruism.

“Overall, our findings ... contradict the commonsense and popular assumption that children from religious households are more altruistic and kind towards others,” said the authors of The Negative Association Between Religiousness and Children’s Altruism Across the World, published this week in Current Biology.

“More generally, they call into question whether religion is vital for moral development, supporting the idea that secularisation of moral discourse will not reduce human kindness – in fact, it will do just the opposite.”

Almost 1,200 children, aged between five and 12, in the US, Canada, China, Jordan, Turkey and South Africa participated in the study. Almost 24% were Christian, 43% Muslim, and 27.6% non-religious. The numbers of Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu, agnostic and other children were too small to be statistically valid.

My Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ ... kids-study\
I believe it is a joke that religious children are being brought up in a such an environment that makes them meaner than their secular counterparts. We need to make laws that restrict the child abuse done to children by religious parents. Abusive parents makes abusive children it makes common sense and to further develop a right moral development we need to make sure children are free from the abuses of a religious lifestyle. Religious people are more violent: http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la ... story.html
Commit more crimes: http://www.salon.com/2013/06/12/study_t ... religious/
http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2012/06/22/ ... re-crimes/
Even, inside the church we have abuses. In this day and age it must change, there is evidence ladies and gentleman that it must change, here and now. The question is though, do you think Religious children are meaner than their secular counterparts?

[Vulkata II]

This again

[USS Monitor]

The study you quoted at the top of the OP is poorly-constructed and doesn't adequately control for cultural factors besides religion.

[United States of Atheism]

The study you quoted at the top of the OP is poorly-constructed and doesn't adequately control for cultural factors besides religion.

I have noticed that religious parents give more punitive punishments than secular ones.

[Vulkata II]

The study you quoted at the top of the OP is poorly-constructed and doesn't adequately control for cultural factors besides religion.

Heck i checked his Forum posts and saw something about like "You would let a innocent bystander get hurt than a Muslim?" something like that, brain is dusty as a attic

[USS Monitor]

The study you quoted at the top of the OP is poorly-constructed and doesn't adequately control for cultural factors besides religion.

I have noticed that religious parents give more punitive punishments than secular ones.

Anecdotal evidence is the best.

[United States of Atheism]

The study you quoted at the top of the OP is poorly-constructed and doesn't adequately control for cultural factors besides religion.

Heck i checked his Forum posts and saw something about like "You would let a innocent bystander get hurt than a Muslim?" something like that, brain is dusty as a attic

Brains don't get dusty, obviously you don't do science.

[Neutraligon]

Didn't we have a thread on this "study"

[United States of Atheism]

Didn't we have a thread on this "study"

I wasn't there for it good sir.

[USS Monitor]

Heck i checked his Forum posts and saw something about like "You would let a innocent bystander get hurt than a Muslim?" something like that, brain is dusty as a attic

Brains don't get dusty, obviously you don't do science.

My brains got dusty all the time before I sank. Now they're just rusty.

[Neutraligon]

Brains don't get dusty, obviously you don't do science.

My brains got dusty all the time before I sank. Now they're just rusty.

And wet.

[Neutraligon]

Heck i checked his Forum posts and saw something about like "You would let a innocent bystander get hurt than a Muslim?" something like that, brain is dusty as a attic

Brains don't get dusty, obviously you don't do science.

If I recall the study had piss poor controls.

[USS Monitor]

My brains got dusty all the time before I sank. Now they're just rusty.

And wet.

Yes, that is what causes the rust. I don't know how you humans keep your brains from rusting when there is so much fluid in them.

[United States of Atheism]

Brains don't get dusty, obviously you don't do science.

If I recall the study had piss poor controls.

If you don't mind sir, may you kindly post the study? I could only find the news about it, I want to properly read it. If it is terrible then it is worth dismissing.

[Vulkata II]

And wet.

Yes, that is what causes the rust. I don't know how you humans keep your brains from rusting when there is so much fluid in them.

I find it nice that we're talking about brains instead of US of Atheism's poor written post of why Religion is bad again

[Petrolheadia]

"A comprehensive study by Harvard University professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts. The study revealed that forty percent of worship service attending Americans volunteer regularly to help the poor and elderly as opposed to 15% of Americans who never attend services. Moreover, religious individuals are more likely than non-religious individuals to volunteer for school and youth programs (36% vs. 15%), a neighborhood or civic group (26% vs. 13%), and for health care (21% vs. 13%)."
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/opi ... 5_ST_N.htm

Maybe it's like children don't get altruism, but when they grow up, they help the community. That would make religion better overall.

[United States of Atheism]

"A comprehensive study by Harvard University professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts. The study revealed that forty percent of worship service attending Americans volunteer regularly to help the poor and elderly as opposed to 15% of Americans who never attend services. Moreover, religious individuals are more likely than non-religious individuals to volunteer for school and youth programs (36% vs. 15%), a neighborhood or civic group (26% vs. 13%), and for health care (21% vs. 13%)."
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/opi ... 5_ST_N.htm

And what can you say?

When gay marriage was legal Oregan and Washington they packed their bags and secular people had to take over the efforts. Religious people are nice to encourage conversion from my experience, I mean if you are poor and starving but you have a soup kitchen where you have to be christian to eat at, you would convert. On another subject, I find a lot of religious people quite rude to a lot of LGBT people.

[USS Monitor]

"A comprehensive study by Harvard University professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts. The study revealed that forty percent of worship service attending Americans volunteer regularly to help the poor and elderly as opposed to 15% of Americans who never attend services. Moreover, religious individuals are more likely than non-religious individuals to volunteer for school and youth programs (36% vs. 15%), a neighborhood or civic group (26% vs. 13%), and for health care (21% vs. 13%)."
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/opi ... 5_ST_N.htm

Maybe it's like children don't get altruism, but when they grow up, they help the community. That would make religion better overall.

Or maybe secular people channel their altruism into other channels like supporting government programs that benefit the poor.

[USS Monitor]

"A comprehensive study by Harvard University professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts. The study revealed that forty percent of worship service attending Americans volunteer regularly to help the poor and elderly as opposed to 15% of Americans who never attend services. Moreover, religious individuals are more likely than non-religious individuals to volunteer for school and youth programs (36% vs. 15%), a neighborhood or civic group (26% vs. 13%), and for health care (21% vs. 13%)."
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/opi ... 5_ST_N.htm

And what can you say?

When gay marriage was legal Oregan and Washington they packed their bags and secular people had to take over the efforts. Religious people are nice to encourage conversion from my experience, I mean if you are poor and starving but you have a soup kitchen where you have to be christian to eat at, you would convert.

I get what you're saying, but it doesn't change the fact the soup kitchens help people.

[Vulkata II]

When gay marriage was legal Oregan and Washington they packed their bags and secular people had to take over the efforts. Religious people are nice to encourage conversion from my experience, I mean if you are poor and starving but you have a soup kitchen where you have to be christian to eat at, you would convert.

I get what you're saying, but it doesn't change the fact the soup kitchens help people.

Burn.

Well at least for me that felt like a burn

[United States of Atheism]

When gay marriage was legal Oregan and Washington they packed their bags and secular people had to take over the efforts. Religious people are nice to encourage conversion from my experience, I mean if you are poor and starving but you have a soup kitchen where you have to be christian to eat at, you would convert.

I get what you're saying, but it doesn't change the fact the soup kitchens help people.

They should help people regardless, if I worked at a soup kitchen I wouldn't keep religious people out.

I get what you're saying, but it doesn't change the fact the soup kitchens help people.

Burn.

Well at least for me that felt like a burn

It's not really a burn, it is more or less a civil discussion.

[Petrolheadia]

"A comprehensive study by Harvard University professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts. The study revealed that forty percent of worship service attending Americans volunteer regularly to help the poor and elderly as opposed to 15% of Americans who never attend services. Moreover, religious individuals are more likely than non-religious individuals to volunteer for school and youth programs (36% vs. 15%), a neighborhood or civic group (26% vs. 13%), and for health care (21% vs. 13%)."
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/opi ... 5_ST_N.htm

Maybe it's like children don't get altruism, but when they grow up, they help the community. That would make religion better overall.

Or maybe secular people channel their altruism into other channels like supporting government programs that benefit the poor.

I guess that is because most religious people have right-wing values. But on the other hand, instead of voting for someone who says he will help, they move their asses and actually help.

[Vulkata II]

I get what you're saying, but it doesn't change the fact the soup kitchens help people.

They should help people regardless, if I worked at a soup kitchen I wouldn't keep religious people out.

That's actually the point of soup kitchens.

To feed the poor and homeless

[Neutraligon]

If I recall the study had piss poor controls.

If you don't mind sir, may you kindly post the study? I could only find the news about it, I want to properly read it. If it is terrible then it is worth dismissing.

http://www.cell.com/current-biology/pdf/S0960-9822(15)01167-7.pdf

This is what I can give, not sure if you have access to the site.

[United States of Atheism]

Or maybe secular people channel their altruism into other channels like supporting government programs that benefit the poor.

I guess that is because most religious people have right-wing values. But on the other hand, instead of voting for someone who says he will help, they move their asses and actually help.

So basically, they are fixing the problems they have caused by supporting the republicans instead of the Libertarians.

They should help people regardless, if I worked at a soup kitchen I wouldn't keep religious people out.

That's actually the point of soup kitchens.

To feed the poor and homeless

In my area in the US, they would only help Christians, then they packed up and left after gay marriage was legalized.