Are racism, sexism, and homophobia form of psychopathology?

[Nova Magna Germania]

That sounds delusional which might indicate a psychopathology.

I'm sure you're having a lot of fun, but armchair psychoanalysis is really a form of trolling originating IRL.

"Degeneration of our species" is pretty unsubstantiated at best.

[West Floradia]

That sounds delusional which might indicate a psychopathology.

I'm sure you're having a lot of fun, but armchair psychoanalysis is really a form of trolling originating IRL.

"Degeneration of our species" is pretty unsubstantiated at best.

Dunno 'bout you, but I kinda wanna know how tolerance of gays and black folks will turn us back into primordial ooze.

*oozes primordially in the meantime*

[Nova Magna Germania]

That sounds delusional which might indicate a psychopathology.

I'm sure you're having a lot of fun, but armchair psychoanalysis is really a form of trolling originating IRL.

"Degeneration of our species" is pretty unsubstantiated at best.

Dunno 'bout you, but I kinda wanna know how tolerance of gays and black folks will turn us back into primordial ooze.

*oozes primordially in the meantime*

Pics or it didnt happen.

[Unity Horde]

Dunno 'bout you, but I kinda wanna know how tolerance of gays and black folks will turn us back into primordial ooze.

The blacks will multiply limitlessly and the aryan race will die out.

[Tokos]

"Degeneration of our species" is pretty unsubstantiated at best.

I can see the excesses of globalisation leading to a degraded Earth. It's hardly a voice-in-the-wilderness position.

I'd say putting all forms of racism and racialism up there with nuthouse cases is pretty unsubstantiated.

[Nova Magna Germania]

Dunno 'bout you, but I kinda wanna know how tolerance of gays and black folks will turn us back into primordial ooze.

The blacks will multiply limitlessly and the aryan race will die out.

The sustainability of the "aryan race" is independent of blacks unless they are raping "aryan" women all the time.

[West Floradia]

Dunno 'bout you, but I kinda wanna know how tolerance of gays and black folks will turn us back into primordial ooze.

The blacks will multiply limitlessly and the aryan race will die out.

But what about the gays? And how will the blacks turn back into primordial ooze?

[Greater Americania]

It's radical leftism to run around declaring those who don't agree with the concept of absolute equality mentally ill. There's my two cents. No, they're not. The listed topics are just beliefs held by people, just like any other belief.

[Unity Horde]

The sustainability of the "aryan race" is independent of blacks unless they are raping "aryan" women all the time.

There will be a horde of them. And they steal the wiminz.

[Nova Magna Germania]

It's radical leftism to run around declaring those who don't agree with the concept of absolute equality mentally ill. There's my two cents. No, they're not. They're just beliefs held by people, just like any other belief.

Well, people with anti social personality disorder always claim that there is nothing wrong as well.

[Nova Magna Germania]

"Degeneration of our species" is pretty unsubstantiated at best.

I can see the excesses of globalisation leading to a degraded Earth. It's hardly a voice-in-the-wilderness position.

Thats not what he said.

I'd say putting all forms of racism and racialism up there with nuthouse cases is pretty unsubstantiated.

Thats not what I said.

[Greater Americania]

Well, people with anti social personality disorder always claim that there is nothing wrong as well.

That's an entirely different topic. I don't know you. I don't know what you believe, but I'm pretty sure that after reading this post, I'd probably believe, if I learned some of your political viewpoints, that there's something wrong with you. The fact remains that my judgment on that matter, while in my opinion and in said situation would be ideologically correct, is still entirely subjective. In a similar way, saying there's something mentally wrong with someone is an objective thing to talk about and is not factual based on radical leftist subjective opinions.

[Tokos]

Well, people with anti social personality disorder always claim that there is nothing wrong as well.

Shades of Catch-22…

[Unity Horde]

Well, people with anti social personality disorder always claim that there is nothing wrong as well.

That's an entirely different topic.

No, that is the topic. The topic name is "Are racism, sexism, and homophobia form of psychopathology?"

[Greater Americania]

No, that is the topic. The topic name is "Are racism, sexism, and homophobia form of psychopathology?"

Yeah, and that means "Is there something medically wrong with 'racist', 'sexist', and 'homophobic' peoples' minds?", which has nothing to do with anti-social personality disorder.

[Central Slavia]

It's radical leftism to run around declaring those who don't agree with the concept of absolute equality mentally ill. There's my two cents. No, they're not. They're just beliefs held by people, just like any other belief.

Well, people with anti social personality disorder always claim that there is nothing wrong as well.

No, On the czech UNIX forums, there is a guy with nick BLEK. (with the dot - it has thwarted many a lame impersonator) which except if talking about technical stuff (seems to be a leet programmer) bitches about how he has a schizoid personality disorder which prevents him from attracting women)
OK not bitching. He just blatantly states it.
It is a bit of folklore there

[Nova Magna Germania]

Well, people with anti social personality disorder always claim that there is nothing wrong as well.

That's an entirely different topic. I don't know you. I don't know what you believe, but I'm pretty sure that after reading this post, I'd probably believe, if I learned some of your political viewpoints, that there's something wrong with you. The fact remains that my judgment on that matter, while in my opinion and in said situation would be ideologically correct, is still entirely subjective. In a similar way, saying there's something mentally wrong with someone is an objective thing to talk about and is not factual based on radical leftist subjective opinions.

No actually, they can come up with objective data and criteria:

Let us now proceed to catalog a series of symptoms
of this proposed disorder, with the understanding, of
course, that this is an exploratory venture rather
than definitive. Using criteria similar to those applied
to the 10 personality disorders described in the
DSM–IV–TR and coded onAxis II, we have developed
the following taxonomy.Adiagnosis of IPD should be
considered when an individual does any combination
of the following: (a) holds a rigid set of beliefs that assert
the intrinsic superiority due to race, religion, culture,
or gender of the person’s own group (this could
include self-perceptions that indicate a belief that
his or her own group is somehow unique, special,
more privileged, or more deserving than is another);
(b) lacks empathy for one or more particular populations,
such as, but not limited to, Latinos, African
Americans, gays, lesbians, or women (conversely, the
person may believe that only persons of his or her own
group can truly understand him or her); (c) exhibits
interpersonal behavior that ranges from covert or
overt antagonism and hostility to exploitation toward
one or more specific or targeted populations; (d) seeks
to overtly or covertly block, deny, impede, or cancel
the social, organizational, psychological, or financial
advancement of someone of a group believed to be inferior;
(e) uses power or other means to inhibit or prevent
free expression of contrary or intolerable ideas;
(f) has a sense of entitlement based on membership in
a privileged group and believes that others should recognize
his or her superiority without commensurate
achievements or valid credentials; (g) manifests a pervasive
pattern of disregard for the human rights of
members of particular populations; and (h) shows lack
of remorse as indicated by being callous or indifferent
to having hurt, restricted, mistreated, or maligned
members of selective populations.
This pattern of characteristics is inflexible and pervasive
across a broad but selective range of personal and
social situations. As is the case with other personality
disorders, there is an enduring pattern of characteristics
that lead to clinically significant distress or impairment
in important areas of functioning; the pattern is stable,
of long duration, and can be traced back to childhood,
and the pattern is not attributable to a consequence of
another mental disorder or to substance abuse.

Eg: Showing no remorse could be measured with psych tests.

[Natapoc]

I'm not sure if psycopathology is the right term. Sexism, racism, and homophobia come from ignorance and fear which typically starts in childhood via education (from parents, other children, other adults, TV, ect)

[Nova Magna Germania]

No, that is the topic. The topic name is "Are racism, sexism, and homophobia form of psychopathology?"

Yeah, and that means "Is there something medically wrong with 'racist', 'sexist', and 'homophobic' peoples' minds?", which has nothing to do with anti-social personality disorder.

Anti-social personality disorder is a form of psychopathology.

[Nova Magna Germania]

It's radical leftism to run around declaring those who don't agree with the concept of absolute equality mentally ill. There's my two cents. No, they're not. They're just beliefs held by people, just like any other belief.

Well, people with anti social personality disorder always claim that there is nothing wrong as well.

No, On the czech UNIX forums, there is a guy with nick BLEK. (with the dot - it has thwarted many a lame impersonator) which except if talking about technical stuff (seems to be a leet programmer) bitches about how he has a schizoid personality disorder which prevents him from attracting women)
OK not bitching. He just blatantly states it.
It is a bit of folklore there

Fascinating. Are they also bunch of homophobes like yourself?

[Greater Americania]

(snip)

That's entirely ridiculous. Those criteria are simply the opinions held themselves, which while the fact that some people may hold those opinions is objective, to say that that makes something wrong with their mind medically wrong is subjective. Using that same logic, a bunch of anti-Leftists and I could run off and advocate that a LPD or "Leftist Personality Disorder" be recognized by the psychiatrist community. Our criteria could simply be the belief in leftist ideals. Under your logic, that's perfectly objective.

Note that also in trying to get this accepted, you're declaring massive portions of the human population not only today but across history mentally ill, which is probably an indicator that you're full of shit from the start.

[Greater Americania]

Anti-social personality disorder is a form of psychopathology.

"There is something medically wrong or abnormal with the minds of people with anti-social personality disorder." does not mean "There is something wrong with the minds of the racists, sexists, and 'homophobes', or in other words, my political opposition.". Try again.

[Nova Magna Germania]

(snip)

That's entirely ridiculous. Those criteria are simply the opinions held themselves, which while the fact that some people may hold those opinions is subjective, to say that that makes something wrong with their mind medically wrong is subjective. Using that same logic, a bunch of anti-Leftists and I could run off and advocate that a LPD or "Leftist Personality Disorder" be recognized by the psychiatrist community. Our criteria could simply be the belief in leftist ideals. Under your logic, that's perfectly objective.

They are using criteria similar to those applied to the 10 personality disorders described in the
DSM–IV–TR. And those are established through empirical data, not thru ideology.

Note that also in trying to get this accepted, you're declaring massive portions of the human population not only today but across history mentally ill, which is probably an indicator that you're full of shit from the start.

Nope

The DSM–IV–TR (American Psychiatric Association,
2000) states
Only when personality traits are inflexible and maladaptive
and cause significant functional impairment
or subjective distress do they constitute Personality
Disorders. The essential feature of a Personality Disorder
is an enduring pattern of inner experience and
behavior that deviates markedly from the expectations
of the individual’s culture and is manifested in at least
two of the following areas: cognition, affectivity, interpersonal
functioning, or impulse control. (p. 686)

Altho some cultures may be psychopathological. Eg: Nazi Germany.

[Nova Magna Germania]

Anti-social personality disorder is a form of psychopathology.

"There is something medically wrong or abnormal with the minds of people with anti-social personality disorder." does not mean "There is something wrong with the minds of the racists, sexists, and 'homophobes', or in other words, my political opposition.". Try again.

Thats not what I said. Try again.

[Central Slavia]

It's radical leftism to run around declaring those who don't agree with the concept of absolute equality mentally ill. There's my two cents. No, they're not. They're just beliefs held by people, just like any other belief.

Well, people with anti social personality disorder always claim that there is nothing wrong as well.

No, On the czech UNIX forums, there is a guy with nick BLEK. (with the dot - it has thwarted many a lame impersonator) which except if talking about technical stuff (seems to be a leet programmer) bitches about how he has a schizoid personality disorder which prevents him from attracting women)
OK not bitching. He just blatantly states it.
It is a bit of folklore there

Fascinating. Are they also bunch of homophobes like yourself?

I never inquired into that, besides in slavic languages, there are much better swearwords than gay and fag equivalents.
But my bet is on no, since i never saw a homophobe in my life.
Phobia implies being patologicaly afraid of something ,while most people merely feel disgust.
Again even that is not whole - i have nothing against decent homosexuals, it is the types who seem to flaunt it publicly dress indecently and hold marches with the explicit purpose of annoying and provoking people that make me almost angry