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Are racism, sexism, and homophobia form of psychopathology?

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Watoshi
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Postby Watoshi » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:09 pm

A simple answer would be Yes.

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Postby Niur » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:10 pm

Neesika wrote:Considering that racism, sexism and homophobia are taught...then no.

Sanity is just institutionalized insanity.
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Postby Central Slavia » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:15 pm

Nova Magna Germania wrote:
Central Slavia wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:
Central Slavia wrote:Consent is not just saying yes. It requires a sane adult mind. Children dont have enough grey material in their brains.
As for fetishism depends.
Froteurism is rubbing against unsuspecting people, so dont be dumb.
Gerontophillia is not necessarily a "deviation". Older people may like people their own age. Liking people your own age is not a "deviation".
Homosexuality is not relevant to any functioning either.
Shortly, u are just another homophobe. What surprises me is that why u come to these kinda threads.


Yet the last time i read, all of the previous ones were classed as deviations.


That would be 1940's?

Central Slavia wrote:As for gerontophillia it is sexual preference for people who are showing explicit signs of old-age degradation. So with two oldies getting it on (if he can get it up) it is not necessarily so, however if a man finds an old woman more attractive than one in the adult spectrum, there is something wrong there,


Up to 20% of the population (or more according to Kinsey) show a degree of homosexuality/bisexuality.
Whats the prevalency of gerontophilia?



Sorry but the kinsey report has been extensively criticised as overrating and allowing for selection bias.
As far as rhe first question goes, 40 years in error you are
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You would be wrong. There's something wrong with the Americans, the Japanese are actually insane, the Chinese don't seem capable of free-thought and just defer judgement to the most powerful strong man, the Russians are quite like that, only more aggressive and mad, and Belarus? Hah.

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Postby Nova Magna Germania » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:24 pm

Central Slavia wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:
Central Slavia wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:
Central Slavia wrote:Consent is not just saying yes. It requires a sane adult mind. Children dont have enough grey material in their brains.
As for fetishism depends.
Froteurism is rubbing against unsuspecting people, so dont be dumb.
Gerontophillia is not necessarily a "deviation". Older people may like people their own age. Liking people your own age is not a "deviation".
Homosexuality is not relevant to any functioning either.
Shortly, u are just another homophobe. What surprises me is that why u come to these kinda threads.


Yet the last time i read, all of the previous ones were classed as deviations.


That would be 1940's?

Central Slavia wrote:As for gerontophillia it is sexual preference for people who are showing explicit signs of old-age degradation. So with two oldies getting it on (if he can get it up) it is not necessarily so, however if a man finds an old woman more attractive than one in the adult spectrum, there is something wrong there,


Up to 20% of the population (or more according to Kinsey) show a degree of homosexuality/bisexuality.
Whats the prevalency of gerontophilia?



Sorry but the kinsey report has been extensively criticised as overrating and allowing for selection bias.
As far as rhe first question goes, 40 years in error you are


1980's in Czechwhatever is like 1940's in North America.

As for 20%, its from 2010.

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Postby Scarsaw » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:27 pm

Nova Magna Germania wrote:As for 20%, its from 2010.


Which reports were those? I haven't heard of any reports being issued in 2010, especially since the year is only two months old.
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Postby Central Slavia » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:29 pm

Nova Magna Germania wrote:
Central Slavia wrote:1980's in Czechwhatever is like 1940's in North America.

As for 20%, its from 2010.

Czechwhatever is still better than Fritzland ! (i can do national namecalling too!)
And i also doubt the last claim , although that would then suggest it is curable in efffect as most od the 20 % do not manifest it
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You would be wrong. There's something wrong with the Americans, the Japanese are actually insane, the Chinese don't seem capable of free-thought and just defer judgement to the most powerful strong man, the Russians are quite like that, only more aggressive and mad, and Belarus? Hah.

Omnicracy wrote:The Soviet Union did not support pro-Soviet governments, it compleatly controled them. The U.S. did not controle the corrupt regiems it set up against the Soviet Union, it just sugested things and changed leaders if they weer not takeing enough sugestions

Great Nepal wrote:Please stick to OFFICIAL numbers. Why to go to scholars,[cut]

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Postby Greater Americania » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:30 pm

Nova Magna Germania wrote:You are repeating yourself, ie: ignoring the part when I said they are using criteria established using empirical data.


Yeah, I am repeating myself because you don't seem to be realizing the fallacies that you're believing as correct. And criteria established through empirical data? Yeah, whereas criteria established through empirical data only means that it is observed that they hold these ideals, your empirical data is still purely ideology.
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Postby Nova Magna Germania » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:36 pm

Scarsaw wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:As for 20%, its from 2010.


Which reports were those? I haven't heard of any reports being issued in 2010, especially since the year is only two months old.


Its actually 2008

http://books.google.ca/books?id=omV2rhY ... q=&f=false

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Postby Nova Magna Germania » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:38 pm

Central Slavia wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:
Central Slavia wrote:1980's in Czechwhatever is like 1940's in North America.

As for 20%, its from 2010.

Czechwhatever is still better than Fritzland ! (i can do national namecalling too!)
And i also doubt the last claim , although that would then suggest it is curable in efffect as most od the 20 % do not manifest it


Many bisexuals repress it, yes. That has nothing to do with "curable". But as a homophobe, u are showing impaired functioning so I should stop this with u...

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Postby Greater Americania » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:40 pm

Nova Magna Germania wrote:Many bisexuals repress it, yes. That has nothing to do with "curable". But as a homophobe, u are showing impaired functioning so I should stop this with u...


Showing a political opposition towards a group does not imply a phobia. I oppose you, but I do not fear you. I certainly do not fear you on irrational levels. In the same way, I doubt he or very many other people fear homosexuals.
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President: Austin Farley
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Postby Nova Magna Germania » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:40 pm

Greater Americania wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:You are repeating yourself, ie: ignoring the part when I said they are using criteria established using empirical data.


Yeah, I am repeating myself because you don't seem to be realizing the fallacies that you're believing as correct. And criteria established through empirical data? Yeah, whereas criteria established through empirical data only means that it is observed that they hold these ideals, your empirical data is still purely ideology.


Observer doesnt matter if it is a double blind study.

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Postby Nova Magna Germania » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:41 pm

Greater Americania wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:Many bisexuals repress it, yes. That has nothing to do with "curable". But as a homophobe, u are showing impaired functioning so I should stop this with u...


Showing a political opposition towards a group does not imply a phobia. I oppose you, but I do not fear you. I certainly do not fear you on irrational levels. In the same way, I doubt he or very many other people fear homosexuals.


phobia is not just fear.

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Postby Scarsaw » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:41 pm

Nova Magna Germania wrote:
Scarsaw wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:As for 20%, its from 2010.


Which reports were those? I haven't heard of any reports being issued in 2010, especially since the year is only two months old.


Its actually 2008

http://books.google.ca/books?id=omV2rhY ... q=&f=false


Making up years, good start. Not reading your own sources, great start...as to quote your own source, page 5:

"Instead, our findings were much closer to estimates [citations] of less than 4% of males (and less than 2% of females) being predominately non-heterosexual" (Ellis, Robb, & Burke, 2005, p. 578).
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Postby Greater Americania » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:42 pm

Nova Magna Germania wrote:Observer doesnt matter if it is a double blind study.


What the fuck are you talking about? Your criteria are purely ideological. You claim they are the result of empirical data. All that means is that it was observed that they hold the beliefs within the criteria. You're failing to connect the dots on how holding those beliefs actually makes them medically ill in the mind.
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Postby Greater Americania » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:43 pm

Nova Magna Germania wrote:phobia is not just fear.


Yes, as a matter of fact, it is.
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Yes, they are.T

Postby Cradled Squads » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:46 pm

They are also forms of rank stupidity.

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Closer to obsessive terror...

Postby Cradled Squads » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:48 pm

Greater Americania wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:phobia is not just fear.


Yes, as a matter of fact, it is.
I thought...fear being a rather tame word to describe 'phobia'.

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Postby Nova Magna Germania » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:49 pm

Scarsaw wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:
Scarsaw wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:As for 20%, its from 2010.


Which reports were those? I haven't heard of any reports being issued in 2010, especially since the year is only two months old.


Its actually 2008

http://books.google.ca/books?id=omV2rhY ... q=&f=false


Making up years, good start. Not reading your own sources, great start...as to quote your own source, page 5:

"Instead, our findings were much closer to estimates [citations] of less than 4% of males (and less than 2% of females) being predominately non-heterosexual" (Ellis, Robb, & Burke, 2005, p. 578).


show a degree of homosexuality/bisexuality =/= being predominately non-heterosexual

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Postby Central Slavia » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:49 pm

Cradled Squads wrote:
Greater Americania wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:phobia is not just fear.


Yes, as a matter of fact, it is.
I thought...fear being a rather tame word to describe 'phobia'.

Yes, pathological fear.
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Glorious Homeland wrote:
You would be wrong. There's something wrong with the Americans, the Japanese are actually insane, the Chinese don't seem capable of free-thought and just defer judgement to the most powerful strong man, the Russians are quite like that, only more aggressive and mad, and Belarus? Hah.

Omnicracy wrote:The Soviet Union did not support pro-Soviet governments, it compleatly controled them. The U.S. did not controle the corrupt regiems it set up against the Soviet Union, it just sugested things and changed leaders if they weer not takeing enough sugestions

Great Nepal wrote:Please stick to OFFICIAL numbers. Why to go to scholars,[cut]

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Postby Greater Americania » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:50 pm

Cradled Squads wrote:
Greater Americania wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:phobia is not just fear.


Yes, as a matter of fact, it is.
I thought...fear being a rather tame word to describe 'phobia'.


The word means an highly exaggerated or extreme illogical or irrational fear, as is explained within the dictionary link. I highly doubt most of the people he's calling homophobes have an extreme fear of homosexuals

On a side note, I love the fact that my internet browser doesn't recognize "homophobe" as a word and tells me I'm not typing anything grammatically correct.
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Original Founder of the Nationalist Union
Member of the Santiago Anti-Communist Treaty Organization

Nationalist Republic, governed by the National Republican Party
Economic Left/Right: 2.0, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.21
President: Austin Farley
Vice President: John Raimark
Secretary of State: Jason Lee
Secretary of Defense: Shane Tomlinson
Secretary of Federal Security: Ross Ferrell
-Chief of Interior Security Forces: General James Calley
Secretary of Territorial Administration: Brandon Terry
-Governor of Tlozuk: Jarod Harris
-Governor of Comaack: John Fargo
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Postby Greater Americania » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:52 pm

Nova Magna Germania wrote:Image


I'm gonna be the first to call bullshit on that little graph of yours and demand to know where it came from. I could make something like that on my computer using Microsoft Word.
Federal Republic of Greater Americania: “Liberty, Soveriegnty, Freedom!”
Original Founder of the Nationalist Union
Member of the Santiago Anti-Communist Treaty Organization

Nationalist Republic, governed by the National Republican Party
Economic Left/Right: 2.0, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.21
President: Austin Farley
Vice President: John Raimark
Secretary of State: Jason Lee
Secretary of Defense: Shane Tomlinson
Secretary of Federal Security: Ross Ferrell
-Chief of Interior Security Forces: General James Calley
Secretary of Territorial Administration: Brandon Terry
-Governor of Tlozuk: Jarod Harris
-Governor of Comaack: John Fargo
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I'm a slash writer...actually have some things archived.

Postby Cradled Squads » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:53 pm

Greater Americania wrote:
Cradled Squads wrote:
Greater Americania wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:phobia is not just fear.


Yes, as a matter of fact, it is.
I thought...fear being a rather tame word to describe 'phobia'.


The word means an highly exaggerated or extreme illogical or irrational fear, as is explained within the dictionary link. I highly doubt most of the people he's calling homophobes have an extreme fear of homosexuals

On a side note, I love the fact that my internet browser doesn't recognize "homophobe" as a word and tells me I'm not typing anything grammatically correct.


What he calls 'Homophobes' are people I make fun of on a regular basis. Mostly because they tend to be more than just a little irrational. They pretty well scare themselves, on their own.

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I'm going back to the satire thread.

Postby Cradled Squads » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:56 pm

Cause this one is sorta dumb and I have an allergic reaction to idiots. I like the guy trying to educate the thread starter, but the thread starter him/herself is giving me hives.

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Postby Nova Magna Germania » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:02 pm

Greater Americania wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:Image


I'm gonna be the first to call bullshit on that little graph of yours and demand to know where it came from. I could make something like that on my computer using Microsoft Word.


I already gave the source. Learn to read

Nova Magna Germania wrote:
Scarsaw wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:As for 20%, its from 2010.


Which reports were those? I haven't heard of any reports being issued in 2010, especially since the year is only two months old.


Its actually 2008

http://books.google.ca/books?id=omV2rhY ... q=&f=false


It's page 30.

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Postby Greater Americania » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:03 pm

Nova Magna Germania wrote:I already gave the source. Learn to read


What? Imageshack? I'm not going to scour this whole damn thread.
Federal Republic of Greater Americania: “Liberty, Soveriegnty, Freedom!”
Original Founder of the Nationalist Union
Member of the Santiago Anti-Communist Treaty Organization

Nationalist Republic, governed by the National Republican Party
Economic Left/Right: 2.0, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.21
President: Austin Farley
Vice President: John Raimark
Secretary of State: Jason Lee
Secretary of Defense: Shane Tomlinson
Secretary of Federal Security: Ross Ferrell
-Chief of Interior Security Forces: General James Calley
Secretary of Territorial Administration: Brandon Terry
-Governor of Tlozuk: Jarod Harris
-Governor of Comaack: John Fargo
*Territories are foreign nations which have been annexed by the Federal Republic

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