School Teaches White Students That They're Born Racist

[Ganos Lao]

We've done good and bad things, and schools should teach everything, not just the parts that glorify us.

I don't think a ton of Americans would be too happy if their kids' history class began with how they continue to cling to the words and precepts of men who—despite all their talk about inalienable rights—owned their fellow human beings as if they were livestock.

Not saying I disagree with you, because criticial thinking is needed more than ever these days, but there'll be some stiff resistance from a particular sort of citizen who would view such things as "Goddamn commies trying to infiltrate our schools"

[Orberstine]

Fight racism with reverse racism on kids that probably weren't even racist to begin with. Loving that logic.

[The Confederation of the Pacific]

This is why the Chinese are beating us.

Because we totally want to emulate China's way of treating ethnic minorities...

Not to sound rude or anything, however I think they were talking strictly about the education system, not the treatment of minorities in China.

[Trotskylvania]

"Anonymous source" "some children" "another Bank street parent" "asks to go unnamed." Fuckin weasely language there. Interesting how no actual incidents are cited, merely the impressions of some people who don't feel confident enough to even have their name appear in print.

And look at this gem of a quote: “One hundred percent of the curriculum is what whites have done to other races,” said another Bank Street parent. “They offer nothing that would balance the story.”

I am reminded of what the late Elie Wiesel said on this subject: "We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Sometimes we must interfere. When human lives are endangered, when human dignity is in jeopardy, national borders and sensitivities become irrelevant. Wherever men or women are persecuted because of their race, religion, or political views, that place must—at that moment—become the center of the universe."

Sounds like more thinly veiled white nationalism. So, about what to expect from the New York Post, which has all the journalistic rigor of fucking Pravda

[Ganos Lao]

Fight racism with reverse racism on kids that probably weren't even racist to begin with. Loving that logic.

Heh, once you find out that human history is really just a cycle of the same old shit over several millenia and all, you gradually get desensitized to such idiocy.

[Socialist Nordia]

We've done good and bad things, and schools should teach everything, not just the parts that glorify us.

I don't think a ton of Americans would be too happy if their kids' history class began with how they continue to cling to the words and precepts of men who—despite all their talk about inalienable rights—owned their fellow human beings as if they were livestock.

Not saying I disagree with you, because criticial thinking is needed more than ever these days, but there'll be some stiff resistance from a particular sort of citizen who would view such things as "Goddamn commies trying to infiltrate our schools"

Yeah, usually efforts like this are labelled as communist propaganda. It varies from state to state I guess, with conservative states usually teaching American exceptionalism, and liberal states usually teaching the full history, making sure the bad parts are known.

[United Federation Of KHAN]

a bunch of schools just keep either entirely skip the slaughter of native americans, slavery of blacks, and jim crow laws. especially in the south. Or they keep saying that the land was not the native americans.

[The New Sea Territory]

I had a sort of meh response to this, because being raised in an insular, homogeneous community can foster racism, but teaching kids that is very difficult without coming across as "feel guilty". Then I saw this:



...and now I side with the school. If these parents are upset because "truth is on the side of the oppressed", then they can fuck off.

So you see no problem with racially segregating children and all that? Because it sounds to me like that's the sort of schtick the Black Panthers were fighting against, the whole "y'all can't be around us, ya hear?" thing.

Seems they're using it more as a big scary buzzword in the article. "Race-based affinity groups" might not be the best way to discuss racism in a school, but it's not comparable to historical segregation.

The Panthers fought against liberal "colorblind" nonsense in their day, too.

[Conserative Morality]

Well I'm in florida, and the state government actively pushes teaching "American exceptionalism."

I live in Maryland. We're so Democratic our current Republican governor has cheerily raised taxes and useful spending.

Not to imply he's perfect by any means. But he's a hell of a lot better than national Republicans.

[Saiwania]

I think that this will be the new normal and Whites have to become strong enough to endure it. I have to conclude that this is only the first sign of things to come if indeed there is going to be 8 years of Hillary Clinton after Obama. This is something to prepare for and adapt to rather than to fear. In college for example, you have to follow the course syllabus and parrot the liberal line if you want to get a good grade, rather than make your true intentions known.

There is a time and a place to conform and when not to. Thus, learning to be a double agent is the most useful skill one can learn. The ideal way is to conduct yourself differently at work, at school, and in private as necessary to achieve your aims.

[The New Sea Territory]

a bunch of schools just keep either entirely skip the slaughter of native americans, slavery of blacks, and jim crow laws. especially in the south. Or they keep saying that the land was not the native americans.

Exactly, and that's a serious issue.

It seems everyone can point and laugh when state try to restrict AP US history for being "un-American", but they'll jump on board with the same historical revisionists when it comes to teaching race-related content in class.

[Ganos Lao]

I don't think a ton of Americans would be too happy if their kids' history class began with how they continue to cling to the words and precepts of men who—despite all their talk about inalienable rights—owned their fellow human beings as if they were livestock.

Not saying I disagree with you, because criticial thinking is needed more than ever these days, but there'll be some stiff resistance from a particular sort of citizen who would view such things as "Goddamn commies trying to infiltrate our schools"

Yeah, usually efforts like this are labelled as communist propaganda. It varies from state to state I guess, with conservative states usually teaching American exceptionalism, and liberal states usually teaching the full history, making sure the bad parts are known.

It's all to preserve the integrity of the "American experiment," even though what I brought up in the post you responded to pretty much implies that the experiment had no integrity to begin with. Granted, as Carlin once said, they got off on the wrong foot, but the ideas themselves were still solid ideas, and that's what people affiliate themselves with the most.

[Conserative Morality]

I don't think a ton of Americans would be too happy if their kids' history class began with how they continue to cling to the words and precepts of men who—despite all their talk about inalienable rights—owned their fellow human beings as if they were livestock.

Not saying I disagree with you, because criticial thinking is needed more than ever these days, but there'll be some stiff resistance from a particular sort of citizen who would view such things as "Goddamn commies trying to infiltrate our schools"

We got a pretty nuanced view of the Founding Fathers, I think, particularly when we went over the Constitution and the 3/5ths clause and how the country even then was divided on slavery. Perhaps a bit heavily on the sympathetic side, but that's to be expected.

[United Federation Of KHAN]

also, I wonder why the north wanted to free slaves. since basically almost everything in gov. actually progressing is because of a money motivation. So the northern politicians didn't do for the morality( why didn't they freed a long time before then ). So what did the north gain economically then. Oh wait, the south would have more dependent on the north for goods then. It kinda sucks then that much of the reason for freeing slaves was money

[Ganos Lao]

a bunch of schools just keep either entirely skip the slaughter of native americans, slavery of blacks, and jim crow laws. especially in the south. Or they keep saying that the land was not the native americans.

Exactly, and that's a serious issue.

It seems everyone can point and laugh when state try to restrict AP US history for being "un-American", but they'll jump on board with the same historical revisionists when it comes to teaching race-related content in class.

There is a way to teach such subjects without segregating the white students from the non-whites, however. And that's what I, at least, have an issue with. I am all for the teaching of history as it was. As human beings, we owe it to our future selves, our children, to teach them how not to fuck up as much as those before them fucked up. But I would prefer doing it in an inclusive, non-segregational way.

[Conserative Morality]

also, I wonder why the north wanted to free slaves. since basically almost everything in gov. actually progressing is because of a money motivation. So the northern politicians didn't do for the morality( why didn't they freed a long time before then ). So what did the north gain economically then. Oh wait, the south would have more dependent on the north for goods then. It kinda sucks then that much of the reason for freeing slaves was money

I don't think you understand the symbiotic relationship between the economies of the North and South before the Civil War.

The North didn't need to sabotage Southern industrial output. The South was a ready and willing market.

[The Confederation of the Pacific]

a bunch of schools just keep either entirely skip the slaughter of native americans, slavery of blacks, and jim crow laws. especially in the south. Or they keep saying that the land was not the native americans.

How does this have anything to do with the mistreatment of children and segregation of races at this school?

[Ganos Lao]

I don't think a ton of Americans would be too happy if their kids' history class began with how they continue to cling to the words and precepts of men who—despite all their talk about inalienable rights—owned their fellow human beings as if they were livestock.

Not saying I disagree with you, because criticial thinking is needed more than ever these days, but there'll be some stiff resistance from a particular sort of citizen who would view such things as "Goddamn commies trying to infiltrate our schools"

We got a pretty nuanced view of the Founding Fathers, I think, particularly when we went over the Constitution and the 3/5ths clause and how the country even then was divided on slavery. Perhaps a bit heavily on the sympathetic side, but that's to be expected.

Of course. Regardless of their faults, they still were the men who brought about the birth of America. And what famous leaders were ever free of hypocrisy and the like anyway?

[The New Sea Territory]

In college for example, you have to follow the course syllabus and parrot the liberal line if you want to get a good grade, rather than make your true intentions known.

The big ebul colleges and their SJW-NWO agenda of Kulturbolschewismus and turning the fricking frogs gay!

[Socialist Nordia]

I think that this will be the new normal and Whites have to become strong enough to endure it. I have to conclude that this is only the first sign of things to come if indeed there is going to be 8 years of Hillary Clinton after Obama. This is something to prepare for and adapt to rather than to fear. In college for example, you have to follow the course syllabus and parrot the liberal line if you want to get a good grade, rather than make your true intentions known.

There is a time and a place to conform and when not to. Thus, learning to be a double agent is the most useful skill one can learn. The ideal way is to conduct yourself differently at work, at school, and in private as necessary to achieve your aims.

You realise this is one school right? This isn't even a public school where parents have to send their kids. This isn't normal at all. Stop using fear tactics. It's one fluke school that needs to stop.

[Ganonsyoni]

"Anonymous source" "some children" "another Bank street parent" "asks to go unnamed." Fuckin weasely language there. Interesting how no actual incidents are cited, merely the impressions of some people who don't feel confident enough to even have their name appear in print.

And look at this gem of a quote: “One hundred percent of the curriculum is what whites have done to other races,” said another Bank Street parent. “They offer nothing that would balance the story.”

I am reminded of what the late Elie Wiesel said on this subject: "We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Sometimes we must interfere. When human lives are endangered, when human dignity is in jeopardy, national borders and sensitivities become irrelevant. Wherever men or women are persecuted because of their race, religion, or political views, that place must—at that moment—become the center of the universe."

Sounds like more thinly veiled white nationalism. So, about what to expect from the New York Post, which has all the journalistic rigor of fucking Pravda

But being anti free speech IS free speech!

This is why I'm an anarchist and not a liberal.

Also, good on the school for teaching about privilege and empowering kids of color. It needs to be ingrained at a young age that white people have advantages they shouldn't have and people of color have disadvantages they shouldn't have and that it's okay to be proud of the struggles to fight oppression ones race has gone through.

[United Marxist Nations]

I don't think a ton of Americans would be too happy if their kids' history class began with how they continue to cling to the words and precepts of men who—despite all their talk about inalienable rights—owned their fellow human beings as if they were livestock.

Not saying I disagree with you, because criticial thinking is needed more than ever these days, but there'll be some stiff resistance from a particular sort of citizen who would view such things as "Goddamn commies trying to infiltrate our schools"

We got a pretty nuanced view of the Founding Fathers, I think, particularly when we went over the Constitution and the 3/5ths clause and how the country even then was divided on slavery. Perhaps a bit heavily on the sympathetic side, but that's to be expected.

Maryland's curriculum sounds very similar to Tennessee's, actually. Might share the standards.

[Conserative Morality]

Of course. Regardless of their faults, they still were the men who brought about the birth of America. And what famous leaders were ever free of hypocrisy and the like anyway?

[United Marxist Nations]

Of course. Regardless of their faults, they still were the men who brought about the birth of America. And what famous leaders were ever free of hypocrisy and the like anyway?

>Ataturk
>free of hypocrisy
Please tell me this is bait

[Ganos Lao]

Of course. Regardless of their faults, they still were the men who brought about the birth of America. And what famous leaders were ever free of hypocrisy and the like anyway?

So Ataturk never once was a hypocrite?