How to solve American education once and for all

[Benuty]

Well I was always considered a heretic by Liberals , Conservatives, Libertarians, and Authoritarians alike sooo.....

All heretics will be purged!

Benuty, we need to quit hijacking threads.

You are right, but damn if it isn't fun.

The topics haven't gotten so obviously contrarian to where the whole of NSG rises above itself, and purges for the new season.

[United Marxist Nations]

Benuty, we need to quit hijacking threads.

Who's the heretic now?

You, Benuty, and all other Chaos cultists.

[Great Feng]

Who's the heretic now?

You,, me, The Balkens, Valaran, Benuty, and all other Chaos cultists.

ftfy

[Eternal Summeria]

Why should the feds regulate this at all? Just make an immediate change before the unions can react. Then, by the time they react, they will have weed and thus be smart enough to realize the benefits of the new way of doing things.

...weed does not fix the problem. The Feds will want to regulate it because the Feds want to regulate everything, as regulation is power. The unions will act in what they view as their best interest, and they will know immediately when it occurs. Doing this upsets the special relationship that exists between the Feds and the teacher's unions, and I can't imagine that either of them would be exactly pleased with that. They make far, far too much money off of it.

Yeah I know. And Big Pharma. Nobody can truly fix the system without a vast majority of voters demanding this. That is why we must transform our discourse and raise awareness of the Big Pharma threat.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Ima be real, I don't know how forced education can ever work effectivly

[Benuty]

Ima be real, I don't know how forced education can ever work effectivly

Pretty much.

[Eternal Summeria]

Ima be real, I don't know how forced education can ever work effectivly

Why, with Waldorf, weed, and Wieser of course!

[Internationalist Bastard]

Ima be real, I don't know how forced education can ever work effectivly

Why, with Waldorf, weed, and Wieser of course!

I dunno what the first one is, but other two made my teenage years worst, not better

[Eternal Summeria]

Why, with Waldorf, weed, and Wieser of course!

I dunno what the first one is, but other two made my teenage years worst, not better

Waldorf is Waldorf education
Weed is Marijuana
Wieser is von Wieser an Austrian economist

[Jolet]

...weed does not fix the problem. The Feds will want to regulate it because the Feds want to regulate everything, as regulation is power. The unions will act in what they view as their best interest, and they will know immediately when it occurs. Doing this upsets the special relationship that exists between the Feds and the teacher's unions, and I can't imagine that either of them would be exactly pleased with that. They make far, far too much money off of it.

Yeah I know. And Big Pharma. Nobody can truly fix the system without a vast majority of voters demanding this. That is why we must transform our discourse and raise awareness of the Big Pharma threat.

Big Pharma has nothing to do with the discussion on education. You want to deal with issues in education, investigate unions, where those funds are going, who they're funding for office, and their choices regarding unions and education in general. Look at Common Core, among other instances where education is getting the shaft. Follow the money, and the root of the corruption will become apparent.

Seriously, your emphasis on Big Pharma being the threat seems facile. If this continues I might need to grab my tin hat out of storage.

[Mike the Progressive]

It's really not as in much trouble as everybody seems to think.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/d ... not-097142

[Eternal Summeria]

Yeah I know. And Big Pharma. Nobody can truly fix the system without a vast majority of voters demanding this. That is why we must transform our discourse and raise awareness of the Big Pharma threat.

Big Pharma has nothing to do with the discussion on education. You want to deal with issues in education, investigate unions, where those funds are going, who they're funding for office, and their choices regarding unions and education in general. Look at Common Core, among other instances where education is getting the shaft. Follow the money, and the root of the corruption will become apparent.

Seriously, your emphasis on Big Pharma being the threat seems facile. If this continues I might need to grab my tin hat out of storage.

It's simple. Smart people might not want to medicate all their made up problems when they can mostly be solved by going back to natural lifestyle and alternative remedies. This would lose Big Pharma a lot of money and power, so they dictate to the unions and the government what they can and cannot do. This is not conspiracy but fact.

So the real money is with the druglords. Not the sellers of weed, they are heroes. Not even the CIA who introduced crack to make money off the backs of minorities, although they are a very serious problem. The real drug lords however are legalized pill pushers and opium merchants of Big Pharma.

[Takhshiyt]

This made me smile.

Thanks for dat

[Jolet]

It's really not as in much trouble as everybody seems to think.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/d ... not-097142

Politico isn't exactly known for being the most reliable source out there. Consider me skeptical, and when the high schools in my area stop having a 33% dropout rate, then I'll maybe consider it to be somewhat valid.

[Eternal Summeria]

It's really not as in much trouble as everybody seems to think.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/d ... not-097142

If that were true then why are Trump and Clinton about to be the next president?

[Pope Joan]

Small class size would help. Keep kids in the same room and let the various teachers circulate from class to class. Mix ages together too; kids leaned just fine that way; the older could help teach and encourage the younger.

The public school in NYC with the most successful graduates was the smallest of all the city schools.

[Pope Joan]

It's really not as in much trouble as everybody seems to think.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/d ... not-097142

If that were true then why are Trump and Clinton about to be the next president?

It's not that the electorate are stupid, it's that the parties are ingrown and unresponsive to that electorate.

[Jolet]

Big Pharma has nothing to do with the discussion on education. You want to deal with issues in education, investigate unions, where those funds are going, who they're funding for office, and their choices regarding unions and education in general. Look at Common Core, among other instances where education is getting the shaft. Follow the money, and the root of the corruption will become apparent.

Seriously, your emphasis on Big Pharma being the threat seems facile. If this continues I might need to grab my tin hat out of storage.

It's simple. Smart people might not want to medicate all their made up problems when they can mostly be solved by going back to natural lifestyle and alternative remedies. This would lose Big Pharma a lot of money and power, so they dictate to the unions and the government what they can and cannot do. This is not conspiracy but fact.

So the real money is with the druglords. Not the sellers of weed, they are heroes. Not even the CIA who introduced crack to make money off the backs of minorities, although they are a very serious problem. The real drug lords however are legalized pill pushers and opium merchants of Big Pharma.

This is sounding more and more like some sort of tinfoil-hat shpeil.

Firstly, alternative remedies and natural lifestyle is a choice free to everyone. While it might not sail with conventional wisdom- which Big Pharma may have had a hand in writing- it's certainly not banned. The issue lies in the fact that it's a crapton of work and upkeep.

Secondly, Big Pharma can't dictate jack squat to the government. The government takes its money, more often than not, heavily regulates its products, penalizes those who step out of line, and basically stands on top of Big Pharma's throat. It makes a lot of money off of Big Pharma, and what is Big Pharma going to do? Stop paying taxes? Maybe if they moved out of the country, but that would defeat the purpose of controlling the US government.

Thirdly, Big Pharma does not care about unions. Unions have no power without the government, and the Government steps on Big Pharma, which means that Unions and Government might as well be one and the same. Completely, totally irrelevant.

Fourthly, if this is fact, where are your sources? Can you prove to me that this is the case?

Fifthly, THC is as much a drug as nicotine and methamphetamine is. I wouldn't be so quick to glorify the new wave of marajuana growers, as the stuff is still relatively unstudied. It's like vaping- who knows what that'll do to the body thirty years down the road?

Sixthly, the CIA may have introduced crack- maybe, that sounds rather dubious- but they certainly don't deal it anymore. You can thank our friends the cartels across the border for that now. I hear it's quite lucrative, and they make quite a bit off it as a result. If you're worried about them being another part of Big Pharma, worry not- the only thing they're developing is new, less intrusive ways to spy on your keystrokes. That or new drugs to mess with people. Who knows?

Bottom line is, you talk big, but you have yet to put money where your mouth is. Where is your proof?

[Takhshiyt]

It's really not as in much trouble as everybody seems to think.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/d ... not-097142

If that were true then why are Trump and Clinton about to be the next president?

That is a rather nasty thing to say. Just because someone supports Trump or Clinton doesn't mean they didn't have a proper schooling.

[The Serbian Empire]

There's no solution for a culture that values feels over reality and education. You have to stop the trigger warnings in lesson plans. One can't force cultural change from within the school walls.

[Eternal Summeria]

It's simple. Smart people might not want to medicate all their made up problems when they can mostly be solved by going back to natural lifestyle and alternative remedies. This would lose Big Pharma a lot of money and power, so they dictate to the unions and the government what they can and cannot do. This is not conspiracy but fact.

So the real money is with the druglords. Not the sellers of weed, they are heroes. Not even the CIA who introduced crack to make money off the backs of minorities, although they are a very serious problem. The real drug lords however are legalized pill pushers and opium merchants of Big Pharma.

This is sounding more and more like some sort of tinfoil-hat shpeil.

Firstly, alternative remedies and natural lifestyle is a choice free to everyone. While it might not sail with conventional wisdom- which Big Pharma may have had a hand in writing- it's certainly not banned. The issue lies in the fact that it's a crapton of work and upkeep.

Secondly, Big Pharma can't dictate jack squat to the government. The government takes its money, more often than not, heavily regulates its products, penalizes those who step out of line, and basically stands on top of Big Pharma's throat. It makes a lot of money off of Big Pharma, and what is Big Pharma going to do? Stop paying taxes? Maybe if they moved out of the country, but that would defeat the purpose of controlling the US government.

Thirdly, Big Pharma does not care about unions. Unions have no power without the government, and the Government steps on Big Pharma, which means that Unions and Government might as well be one and the same. Completely, totally irrelevant.

Fourthly, if this is fact, where are your sources? Can you prove to me that this is the case?

Fifthly, THC is as much a drug as nicotine and methamphetamine is. I wouldn't be so quick to glorify the new wave of marajuana growers, as the stuff is still relatively unstudied. It's like vaping- who knows what that'll do to the body thirty years down the road?

Sixthly, the CIA may have introduced crack- maybe, that sounds rather dubious- but they certainly don't deal it anymore. You can thank our friends the cartels across the border for that now. I hear it's quite lucrative, and they make quite a bit off it as a result. If you're worried about them being another part of Big Pharma, worry not- the only thing they're developing is new, less intrusive ways to spy on your keystrokes. That or new drugs to mess with people. Who knows?

Bottom line is, you talk big, but you have yet to put money where your mouth is. Where is your proof?

So much misinformation I don't know where to begin. I'll find a video on YouTube that will change your life.

[New haven america]

I don't shill for Big Pharma, but I am available if they're hiring.

Shill is such a harsh word.

I prefer the term escort after all if you are going to have sex make them pay a lot of money.

Eh, not all escorts provide sexual services. *Nod*

[Quokkastan]

You solve for American education using the quadratic equation.

The solution is everything in the beaker that's not the precipitate.

Duh.

[Ethel mermania]

I don't shill for Big Pharma, but I am available if they're hiring.

they pay well. Got to give them that.

[Jolet]

This is sounding more and more like some sort of tinfoil-hat shpeil.

Firstly, alternative remedies and natural lifestyle is a choice free to everyone. While it might not sail with conventional wisdom- which Big Pharma may have had a hand in writing- it's certainly not banned. The issue lies in the fact that it's a crapton of work and upkeep.

Secondly, Big Pharma can't dictate jack squat to the government. The government takes its money, more often than not, heavily regulates its products, penalizes those who step out of line, and basically stands on top of Big Pharma's throat. It makes a lot of money off of Big Pharma, and what is Big Pharma going to do? Stop paying taxes? Maybe if they moved out of the country, but that would defeat the purpose of controlling the US government.

Thirdly, Big Pharma does not care about unions. Unions have no power without the government, and the Government steps on Big Pharma, which means that Unions and Government might as well be one and the same. Completely, totally irrelevant.

Fourthly, if this is fact, where are your sources? Can you prove to me that this is the case?

Fifthly, THC is as much a drug as nicotine and methamphetamine is. I wouldn't be so quick to glorify the new wave of marajuana growers, as the stuff is still relatively unstudied. It's like vaping- who knows what that'll do to the body thirty years down the road?

Sixthly, the CIA may have introduced crack- maybe, that sounds rather dubious- but they certainly don't deal it anymore. You can thank our friends the cartels across the border for that now. I hear it's quite lucrative, and they make quite a bit off it as a result. If you're worried about them being another part of Big Pharma, worry not- the only thing they're developing is new, less intrusive ways to spy on your keystrokes. That or new drugs to mess with people. Who knows?

Bottom line is, you talk big, but you have yet to put money where your mouth is. Where is your proof?

So much misinformation I don't know where to begin. I'll find a video on YouTube that will change your life.

Youtube does not even come close to being a reliable source. You go to the same site where the nyan cat and darude sandstorm have their heyday and treat that as your reliable source? I question your rationale, friend.

Unless this video gives me sources that I can actually consult, rather than making claims like you have and not backing them up, you're going to come up empty, just like all of your claims thus far.