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What is the solution?

Waldorf schools
5
6%
Legalize weed
22
25%
An emphasis on Austrian economics throughout the whole education system
9
10%
I shill for Big Pharma by calling for privatization / charter schools
10
11%
I shill for Big Pharma by calling for more standardized testing
4
4%
I shill for Big Pharma by calling for union busting
5
6%
I shill for Big Pharma by calling for stronger unions
9
10%
I shill for Big Pharma by calling for more funding for public schools
21
24%
Nothing is wrong with the American education, trust me, I shill for Big Pharma
4
4%
 
Total votes : 89

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United Marxist Nations
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:23 pm

Benuty wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:I object to the poll because there are no options for Kremlin shills.

Thankfully none for members of the Imperium either.

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Postby Benuty » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:24 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Benuty wrote:Thankfully none for members of the Imperium either.

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A lie which has become truth is still a lie.
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Eternal Summeria
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Postby Eternal Summeria » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:25 pm

Jolet wrote:Your poll is, um... Interesting. Rather narrow minded, but interesting. Needless to say, I will not be pidgeonholed by your perception of what I believe, and thus, will not answer it.

After briefly researching the idea of Steiner education, I think that it might- might- be a good idea in theory, but practice? What would this cost? How would unions take this? Where is the money for the retrofitting going to come from? How would the Feds regulate this? How could this be regulated?

Overall, in an idealistic sense it would work. Practically, it probably can't.

And that analysis doesn't make me a shill of Big Pharma, thank you very much.

Why should the feds regulate this at all? Just make an immediate change before the unions can react. Then, by the time they react, they will have weed and thus be smart enough to realize the benefits of the new way of doing things.

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Postby Socialist Nordia » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:26 pm

Eternal Summeria wrote:
The United Colonies of Earth wrote:Propaganda is a method of persuasion, using biased information to sway the audience to the propagandist's side- a definition your proposal certainly has inherent to its' nature. And propaganda is, of course, bullshit.

How can it be biased information if it is the truth? Nothing biased about Austrian economics, just objectively proven FACT. Also its in a Waldorf school so if anyone says bullshit things everyone will see right through them.

An economic school of thought cannot be fact. Just because you subscribe to it doesn't mean it's fact and all must follow it.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:26 pm

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United Marxist Nations wrote:The Codex Astartes does not approve of this post.

A lie which has become truth is still a lie.

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Postby Eternal Summeria » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:27 pm

Socialist Nordia wrote:
Eternal Summeria wrote:How can it be biased information if it is the truth? Nothing biased about Austrian economics, just objectively proven FACT. Also its in a Waldorf school so if anyone says bullshit things everyone will see right through them.

An economic school of thought cannot be fact. Just because you subscribe to it doesn't mean it's fact and all must follow it.

Of course it can. How else do you explain capitalist victory in the cold war for example?

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Postby Benuty » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:27 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Benuty wrote:A lie which has become truth is still a lie.

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Heresy is meaningless given the fact you worship a corpse who in life advocated extremely against religion.
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Postby Great Feng » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:29 pm

wat

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Postby Socialist Nordia » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:30 pm

Eternal Summeria wrote:
Socialist Nordia wrote:An economic school of thought cannot be fact. Just because you subscribe to it doesn't mean it's fact and all must follow it.

Of course it can. How else do you explain capitalist victory in the cold war for example?

It's not a fact. I don't think you know what fact means. It's a well tested theory, but it's not without flaws. If perfectly free markets were the ultimate only way to prosperity, the Nordic countries wouldn't be so damn prosperous.
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Postby Benuty » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:30 pm

Great Feng wrote:wat

You have peered into the great abyss of sadomasochistic madness that is summer.

As a result you go mad living about the rest of your days in service to strange gods, and obscene rituals.
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Postby Jolet » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:30 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Benuty wrote:Thankfully none for members of the Imperium either.

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EDIT: That moment when the image link doesn't work...
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:30 pm

Benuty wrote:
Great Feng wrote:wat

You have peered into the great abyss of sadomasochistic madness that is summer.

As a result you go mad living about the rest of your days in service to strange gods, and obscene rituals.

FENG! Do not listen to this vile heresy!
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Postby Great Feng » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:31 pm

Benuty wrote:
Great Feng wrote:wat

You have peered into the great abyss of sadomasochistic madness that is summer.

As a result you go mad living about the rest of your days in service to strange gods, and obscene rituals.

But I was a result of NS Summer. :unsure:

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Postby Great Feng » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:32 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Benuty wrote:You have peered into the great abyss of sadomasochistic madness that is summer.

As a result you go mad living about the rest of your days in service to strange gods, and obscene rituals.

FENG! Do not listen to this vile heresy!

Well I was always considered a heretic by Liberals , Conservatives, Libertarians, and Authoritarians alike sooo.....

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Postby Benuty » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:32 pm

Great Feng wrote:
Benuty wrote:You have peered into the great abyss of sadomasochistic madness that is summer.

As a result you go mad living about the rest of your days in service to strange gods, and obscene rituals.

But I was a result of NS Summer. :unsure:

Not the true summer.

Not until you have appeased the chaos gods.
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Postby Jolet » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:33 pm

Eternal Summeria wrote:
Jolet wrote:Your poll is, um... Interesting. Rather narrow minded, but interesting. Needless to say, I will not be pidgeonholed by your perception of what I believe, and thus, will not answer it.

After briefly researching the idea of Steiner education, I think that it might- might- be a good idea in theory, but practice? What would this cost? How would unions take this? Where is the money for the retrofitting going to come from? How would the Feds regulate this? How could this be regulated?

Overall, in an idealistic sense it would work. Practically, it probably can't.

And that analysis doesn't make me a shill of Big Pharma, thank you very much.

Why should the feds regulate this at all? Just make an immediate change before the unions can react. Then, by the time they react, they will have weed and thus be smart enough to realize the benefits of the new way of doing things.


...weed does not fix the problem. The Feds will want to regulate it because the Feds want to regulate everything, as regulation is power. The unions will act in what they view as their best interest, and they will know immediately when it occurs. Doing this upsets the special relationship that exists between the Feds and the teacher's unions, and I can't imagine that either of them would be exactly pleased with that. They make far, far too much money off of it.

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Postby Benuty » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:34 pm

Great Feng wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:FENG! Do not listen to this vile heresy!

Well I was always considered a heretic by Liberals , Conservatives, Libertarians, and Authoritarians alike sooo.....

Welcome to the ranks of the gods then.
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Postby Great Feng » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:34 pm

Benuty wrote:
Great Feng wrote:But I was a result of NS Summer. :unsure:

Not the true summer.

Not until you have appeased the chaos gods.

True.
I think most of NSG can agree(hopefully) that I'm a better result of NS Summer than some other....not to be mentioned NS'ers.

*Looks darkly at Valaran and The Balkens* :p

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Postby Great Feng » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:34 pm

Benuty wrote:
Great Feng wrote:Well I was always considered a heretic by Liberals , Conservatives, Libertarians, and Authoritarians alike sooo.....

Welcome to the ranks of the gods then.

Do I get a medal?
Or at least a cookie?

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Postby Jolet » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:35 pm

Benuty wrote:
Great Feng wrote:But I was a result of NS Summer. :unsure:

Not the true summer.

Not until you have appeased the chaos gods.


SILENCE, HERETIC! SPEAK NO MORE.

The Comissar is on his way, and his bolt pistol would like a word with you.

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Postby Benuty » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:35 pm

Great Feng wrote:
Benuty wrote:Welcome to the ranks of the gods then.

Do I get a medal?
Or at least a cookie?

Anything your heart desires. A black crusade is coming, and things will change.
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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:36 pm

Eternal Summeria wrote:
Socialist Nordia wrote:An economic school of thought cannot be fact. Just because you subscribe to it doesn't mean it's fact and all must follow it.

Of course it can. How else do you explain capitalist victory in the cold war for example?

Their governments weren't shit?

Oil embargo?

Chinese century?
TG me about my avatars for useless trivia.

A very good link right here.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:36 pm

Great Feng wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:FENG! Do not listen to this vile heresy!

Well I was always considered a heretic by Liberals , Conservatives, Libertarians, and Authoritarians alike sooo.....

All heretics will be purged!

Benuty, we need to quit hijacking threads.
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Postby Great Feng » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:36 pm

Benuty wrote:
Great Feng wrote:Do I get a medal?
Or at least a cookie?

Anything your heart desires. A black crusade is coming, and things will change.

Gimme Blackjack and Hookers.

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Postby Great Feng » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:36 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Great Feng wrote:Well I was always considered a heretic by Liberals , Conservatives, Libertarians, and Authoritarians alike sooo.....



Benuty, we need to quit hijacking threads.

Who's the heretic now? :p

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