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How to solve American education once and for all

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What is the solution?

Waldorf schools
5
6%
Legalize weed
22
25%
An emphasis on Austrian economics throughout the whole education system
9
10%
I shill for Big Pharma by calling for privatization / charter schools
10
11%
I shill for Big Pharma by calling for more standardized testing
4
4%
I shill for Big Pharma by calling for union busting
5
6%
I shill for Big Pharma by calling for stronger unions
9
10%
I shill for Big Pharma by calling for more funding for public schools
21
24%
Nothing is wrong with the American education, trust me, I shill for Big Pharma
4
4%
 
Total votes : 89

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Eternal Summeria
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How to solve American education once and for all

Postby Eternal Summeria » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:53 pm

So everyone knows that the American education system is in deep trouble. It is obvious to anyone with half a brain that what we are doing isn't working. But what should be done about it? There seem to be as many answers as political persuasions. Some say that the problem is teacher's unions. Others think that unions should be stronger. Still others say to just privatize the whole system.

I offer a different solution. I think that we already have an example of what works best: Waldorf Schools, aka Steiner education. In such institutions, beyond the rapacious grasp of Big Pharma and their shills, America's youth can thrive anf blossom into beautiful intellectual butterflies. The only thing different in my idea is that we want to teach patriotic values... So how's this for innovation : we can teach them the most Patriotic and truly American thing : Austrian economics. Start at an early age with basic logic and some parables that teach about the virtues of free markets. Get more logical as they get older. By the time the average American gets out of high school, she can prax it out with the best of them. This will lead to a new golden age of prosperity and it will rid the world of pernicious Big Pharma for good. Then we can finally legalize weed and transcend the limits that the patriarchy places on our IQ.

I challenge you to find a single flaw in this policy position. It is the only common sense solution to making America great again like it never was before.

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Postby Benuty » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:54 pm

A perfect summary of summer absurdist sadomasochism.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:56 pm

I don't shill for Big Pharma, but I am available if they're hiring.
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Postby Benuty » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:56 pm

Ifreann wrote:I don't shill for Big Pharma, but I am available if they're hiring.

Shill is such a harsh word.

I prefer the term escort after all if you are going to have sex make them pay a lot of money.
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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:56 pm

You sound like a computer trying to emulate NSG.
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Postby Benuty » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:57 pm

The first Galactic Republic wrote:You sound like a computer trying to emulate NSG.

Well NSG is a computer, but one with an actually describable mental illness.
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Postby Eternal Summeria » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:58 pm

Benuty wrote:A perfect summary of summer absurdist sadomasochism.

What the f$ck are you talking about? Are you high on the prescription pain killers some doctors in the pockets of Big Pharma gave you?

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Postby Benuty » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:59 pm

Eternal Summeria wrote:
Benuty wrote:A perfect summary of summer absurdist sadomasochism.

What the f$ck are you talking about? Are you high on the prescription pain killers some doctors in the pockets of Big Pharma gave you?

We are all high.

Reality is an illusion. You have no free will, and everything has been predetermined since before the universe.

Also buy gold!
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:59 pm

Your idea is the most vapid crock of bullshit I've seen on this forum.
Fuck no.
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Postby The Texan Union » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:59 pm

Eternal Summeria wrote:
Benuty wrote:A perfect summary of summer absurdist sadomasochism.

What the f$ck are you talking about? Are you high on the prescription pain killers some doctors in the pockets of Big Pharma gave you?

You sound a tad paranoid.
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Postby Eternal Summeria » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:00 pm

The first Galactic Republic wrote:You sound like a computer trying to emulate NSG.

Why?

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Postby Benuty » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:01 pm

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:Your idea is the most vapid crock of bullshit I've seen on this forum.
Fuck no.

Wow you have been on here so long all external senses have died, and you lack the inability to detect it.

I suggest a prescription of one sarcasm meter.
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Postby Benuty » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:01 pm

Eternal Summeria wrote:
The first Galactic Republic wrote:You sound like a computer trying to emulate NSG.

Why?

Because you are obviously, but only a prototype.
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Postby Eternal Summeria » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:02 pm

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:Your idea is the most vapid crock of bullshit I've seen on this forum.
Fuck no.

Please explain. My idea is absolutely without flaws. If you found one you deserve a Nobel prize, but without examples I think you are talking out of your ass.

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Postby Benuty » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:03 pm

Eternal Summeria wrote:
The United Colonies of Earth wrote:Your idea is the most vapid crock of bullshit I've seen on this forum.
Fuck no.

Please explain. My idea is absolutely without flaws. If you found one you deserve a Nobel prize, but without examples I think you are talking out of your ass.


How does one explain the ass exactly?

Does it have metaphysical concepts? Is an ass a paradox? Is it an instrument?

Does an ass have a soul?
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:04 pm

Benuty wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I don't shill for Big Pharma, but I am available if they're hiring.

Shill is such a harsh word.

I prefer the term escort after all if you are going to have sex make them pay a lot of money.

I don't think I'm classy enough to be an escort.
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Postby Socialist Nordia » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:04 pm

By teaching "patriotic values" are you implying teaching American exceptionalism or no?
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Postby Anollasia » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:05 pm

Eternal Summeria wrote:
The United Colonies of Earth wrote:Your idea is the most vapid crock of bullshit I've seen on this forum.
Fuck no.

Please explain. My idea is absolutely without flaws. If you found one you deserve a Nobel prize, but without examples I think you are talking out of your ass.


Nothing is flawless. Also, I don't know why you're mixing this with weed and such.

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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:05 pm

Eternal Summeria wrote:
The first Galactic Republic wrote:You sound like a computer trying to emulate NSG.

Why?

When you mentioned patriarchy out of nowhere, I realized that the human process had been lost.
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Postby Benuty » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:05 pm

Anollasia wrote:
Eternal Summeria wrote:Please explain. My idea is absolutely without flaws. If you found one you deserve a Nobel prize, but without examples I think you are talking out of your ass.


Nothing is flawless. Also, I don't know why you're mixing this with weed and such.

Because without Hitlers birthday why would anyone want to burn anything?
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Postby Eternal Summeria » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:09 pm

Anollasia wrote:
Eternal Summeria wrote:Please explain. My idea is absolutely without flaws. If you found one you deserve a Nobel prize, but without examples I think you are talking out of your ass.


Nothing is flawless. Also, I don't know why you're mixing this with weed and such.

Legalize weed cures diseases increases IQ. But the only way to do so is to block Big Pharmas influence. The only way to do that is to teach independent thought (Waldorf) and economic policies that promote prosperity logic and freedom from serfdom (Austrian economics).

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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:10 pm

Benuty wrote:
The United Colonies of Earth wrote:Your idea is the most vapid crock of bullshit I've seen on this forum.
Fuck no.

Wow you have been on here so long all external senses have died, and you lack the inability to detect it.

I suggest a prescription of one sarcasm meter.

That made me laugh. :lol2:
Eternal Summeria wrote:
The United Colonies of Earth wrote:Your idea is the most vapid crock of bullshit I've seen on this forum.
Fuck no.

Please explain. My idea is absolutely without flaws. If you found one you deserve a Nobel prize, but without examples I think you are talking out of your ass.

I came to that opinion at this point:
Eternal Summeria wrote:So everyone knows that the American education system is in deep trouble. It is obvious to anyone with half a brain that what we are doing isn't working. But what should be done about it? There seem to be as many answers as political persuasions. Some say that the problem is teacher's unions. Others think that unions should be stronger. Still others say to just privatize the whole system.

I offer a different solution. I think that we already have an example of what works best: Waldorf Schools, aka Steiner education. In such institutions, beyond the rapacious grasp of Big Pharma and their shills, America's youth can thrive anf blossom into beautiful intellectual butterflies. The only thing different in my idea is that we want to teach patriotic values... So how's this for innovation : we can teach them the most Patriotic and truly American thing : Austrian economics. Start at an early age with basic logic and some parables that teach about the virtues of free markets.

Propaganda.
There's no excuse for it, no matter what ideology you're pushing. It was bad to push every other radical ideology and it's bad for this one, too. As long as I'm an American citizen, I will countenance no such bullshit in this nation's public schools.
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to ensure that human rights are respected, with force if necessary, and that all nations recognize the inevitable and unalienable rights of all human beings regardless of their individual and harmless differences, or Idiosyncrasies;
to represent the interests of all humankind to other sapient species;
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to promote technological advancement and scientific achievement for the happiness, knowledge and welfare of all humans;
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Benuty
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Postby Benuty » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:10 pm

Eternal Summeria wrote:
Anollasia wrote:
Nothing is flawless. Also, I don't know why you're mixing this with weed and such.

Legalize weed cures diseases increases IQ. But the only way to do so is to block Big Pharmas influence. The only way to do that is to teach independent thought (Waldorf) and economic policies that promote prosperity logic and freedom from serfdom (Austrian economics).


The only thing austrian economics brought us is war, hell, and death. Not to mention a lot of burning.
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Postby Eternal Summeria » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:10 pm

The first Galactic Republic wrote:
Eternal Summeria wrote:Why?

When you mentioned patriarchy out of nowhere, I realized that the human process had been lost.

It's not only of nowhere. Patriarchy limits our IQ and as such is the natural ally of Big Pharma.

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Postby Kelinfort » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:11 pm

Free market economics, patriarchy, big pharma, and weed legalization all in one post?

0/10, thanks for playing.

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