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Postby Vassenor » Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:39 am

Great Nepal wrote:

From the link “A deal with Great Britain is unimaginable if the British have not paid their outstanding debt,” according to the E.U. official", so does that mean we can't leave until we pay €25 billion, and if so can we arrange an installment plan of €1 million per year with interest rate of 101% annually?


Nope. It means we just get kicked out on our ass when we run out the timer with none of the stuff we want to try getting.
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Postby Great Nepal » Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:42 am

Vassenor wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:From the link “A deal with Great Britain is unimaginable if the British have not paid their outstanding debt,” according to the E.U. official", so does that mean we can't leave until we pay €25 billion, and if so can we arrange an installment plan of €1 million per year with interest rate of 101% annually?


Nope. It means we just get kicked out on our ass when we run out the timer with none of the stuff we want to try getting.

Just start the timer after the installment plan is complete, simples. :p
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Postby Great Nepal » Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:21 am

If our economy isn't in downturn which coincidentally started after the vote to leave, which it isn't, but even if it was, it is totally not our fault because its those experts coming out with their fancy predictions, and its the labour party, and Obama. REMEMBER ITS NOT OUR FAULT, not that there is anything wrong to be anyone's fault, but even if there was it definitely isn't OUR fault. Blame the people whose predictions are turning out to be pretty accurate, or Illuminati - just blame someone else not us!
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Postby Olivaero » Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:38 am

Great Nepal wrote:If our economy isn't in downturn which coincidentally started after the vote to leave, which it isn't, but even if it was, it is totally not our fault because its those experts coming out with their fancy predictions, and its the labour party, and Obama. REMEMBER ITS NOT OUR FAULT, not that there is anything wrong to be anyone's fault, but even if there was it definitely isn't OUR fault. Blame the people whose predictions are turning out to be pretty accurate, or Illuminati - just blame someone else not us!

The epitome of childishness. I was darkly hopeful before the referendum that the economic fall out would at least force the leavers to take responsibility for their decisions. Surely I thought you can't spin a downturn. But no, looks like you can, because we're all brexiters now. FML.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:04 am

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"Let's wipe out three years of savings from not paying the EU to pay the EU!"


"Yeah staying would have totally wiped the debt with no need to pay anything"
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:28 am

Guardian fact-checks the claim.

Their verdict: We do have outstanding debts to pay, but they may not be that exact figure.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:58 am

Ifreann wrote:
San Lumen wrote:but they wouldn't be manipulating the market in their favor simply prevented the pound from tanking.

So manipulation of the market in favour of Leave politicians. That's totally different.

I never said they should do that. I said act like adults and not crash the pound and prevent investors from tanking the economy.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Aug 05, 2016 7:04 am

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Imperializt Russia wrote:"Let's wipe out three years of savings from not paying the EU to pay the EU!"


"Yeah staying would have totally wiped the debt with no need to pay anything"

I don't recall making such a claim, so please try again darling.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:34 am

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Ifreann wrote:So manipulation of the market in favour of Leave politicians. That's totally different.

I never said they should do that. I said act like adults and not crash the pound and prevent investors from tanking the economy.


No, that's exactly what you've been suggesting the whole time.
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We could always send gove to rob the European Central Bank. :p
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:47 am

Vassenor wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I never said they should do that. I said act like adults and not crash the pound and prevent investors from tanking the economy.


No, that's exactly what you've been suggesting the whole time.

No its not. Im suggesting they act like adults and respect the result of the referendum and not cut jobs and threaten to move their HQ's. That's like a five year old throwing a tantrum because they don't like something or their toy was taken away. They could all collectively refuse to sell and prevent investors from crashing the economy. That shouldn't be illegal. If i was Prime Minister I'd prevent capital flight an if I was in banking I wouldn't sell nor cut jobs and work with others to prevent selling and crashing of the economy. I don't consider that insider trading
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:08 am

You're still talking about committing fraud on a large scale.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:18 am

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:So manipulation of the market in favour of Leave politicians. That's totally different.

I never said they should do that.

Do you just not understand the concept of implications and reading between the lines? Do you not understand that you communicate more with your posts than just the words you type?
I said act like adults and not crash the pound and prevent investors from tanking the economy.

It amounts to the same thing. You want bankers and traders and investors all over the world to conspire and contrive to manipulate the market to protect the British economy from any negative consequences of voting Leave. This global conspiracy would greatly benefit Leave politicians.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:18 am

San Lumen wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
No, that's exactly what you've been suggesting the whole time.

No its not. Im suggesting they act like adults and respect the result of the referendum and not cut jobs and threaten to move their HQ's. That's like a five year old throwing a tantrum because they don't like something or their toy was taken away. They could all collectively refuse to sell and prevent investors from crashing the economy. That shouldn't be illegal. If i was Prime Minister I'd prevent capital flight an if I was in banking I wouldn't sell nor cut jobs and work with others to prevent selling and crashing of the economy. I don't consider that insider trading

What you consider doesn't matter. It is insider trading.

It is exactly "manipulating the markets in favour of Leave politicians".
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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:21 am

Can Britian renenter the EU in the future or is it a one time deal?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:22 am

Zeinbrad wrote:Can Britian renenter the EU in the future or is it a one time deal?

Maybe in 2116, after the Netherlands has sunk.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:28 am

Zeinbrad wrote:Can Britian renenter the EU in the future or is it a one time deal?

I imagine they'd legally be allowed to re-join. Slim chances of it happening, though.

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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:30 am

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Zeinbrad wrote:Can Britian renenter the EU in the future or is it a one time deal?

I imagine they'd legally be allowed to re-join. Slim chances of it happening, though.

It probably be really embarrassing.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:34 am

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Ifreann wrote:I imagine they'd legally be allowed to re-join. Slim chances of it happening, though.

It probably be really embarrassing.

Assuming EU leaders didn't just respond by laughing, at the very least they'd make Britain adopt the Euro and wouldn't be giving them any opt-outs or exemptions on anything.

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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:41 am

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Zeinbrad wrote:It probably be really embarrassing.

Assuming EU leaders didn't just respond by laughing, at the very least they'd make Britain adopt the Euro and wouldn't be giving them any opt-outs or exemptions on anything.

I think Boris and Nigel just did a better job of screwing over the UK then ISIS could ever dream of.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:42 am

Zeinbrad wrote:Can Britian renenter the EU in the future or is it a one time deal?


Legally yes, politically no, not without total surrender to all directives.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:01 am

Zeinbrad wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Assuming EU leaders didn't just respond by laughing, at the very least they'd make Britain adopt the Euro and wouldn't be giving them any opt-outs or exemptions on anything.

I think Boris and Nigel just did a better job of screwing over the UK then ISIS could ever dream of.


Why do you think they all quit pretty damn sharpish?
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