Violence Never Solves Anything....Bull!!

[New Axiom]

This argument is the biggest load of bull**** I've ever heard. Violence, raw, naked power has solved more problems in history than anything.

Before we even start, I'm not advocating violence. I'm just saying it solves stuff and is sometimes neccesary.

Okay, here we go.
Without violence, America wouldn't have ever been separated from the British Empire. And yes, we tried the peaceful route, but that didn't work, so tyere was a war, wich is a violent thing, that separated us and made us America, a country I happen to love.

Without violence, Imperial Rome would have never existed, or ever brought down.

Without violence, Nazi Germany would've never been destroyed.

Without violence, Isreal would be non-existent.

Without violence, at least a billion people would be unemployed from their jobs as soldiers, combat nurses, pilots, etc.

Violence isn't the best cure for everything, but it is neccesary. And it has solved faaaar more problems in history than peaceful protests or flower power crap. It is neccesary and will continue to be for ever.

Thoughts?

[The Portland Territory]

Agreed. Sadly, in our world, war and violence are required to survive and thrive.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

You're wrong.
Violence is the best tool for everything. It gives you a nice feel of power, a nice rush of emotion, and you feel like you did something good today and you're alive and invincible, by showing the shits who represent your coming death what's what!

[RunDown]

You're wrong.
Violence is the best tool for everything. It gives you a nice feel of power, a nice rush of emotion, and you feel like you did something good today and you're alive and invincible, by showing the shits who represent your coming death what's what!

Slightly agree with your opinion. The threat of violence is the best tool for everything. While violence is used very effectively, the mere threat of violence is very effective. That being said, you have to be willing to use violence if you threaten it. But gentle feeling or the threat of them has never solved anything. It merely postpones it until someone else comes alone to violently adjust the situation.

[Southerly Gentleman]

You're wrong.
Violence is the best tool for everything. It gives you a nice feel of power, a nice rush of emotion, and you feel like you did something good today and you're alive and invincible, by showing the shits who represent your coming death what's what!

Those are the OP's sentiments as well.

[The first Galactic Republic]

Vagueness never solves anything either.

[The Romulan Republic]

This argument is the biggest load of bull**** I've ever heard. Violence, raw, naked power has solved more problems in history than anything.

And this, right here, shows what your real motive is- the idolization of violence and power for its own sake.

Frankly, this sounds like insecurity and posturing. Classic "internet tough guy" stuff.

Before we even start, I'm not advocating violence. I'm just saying it solves stuff and is sometimes necessary.

A self-contradiction. You are definitely advocating violence, at least in the theoretical if not the specific sense.

Okay, here we go.
Without violence, America wouldn't have ever been separated from the British Empire. And yes, we tried the peaceful route, but that didn't work, so tyere was a war, wich is a violent thing, that separated us and made us America, a country I happen to love.

A different time.

Also, their are numerous examples of nations that achieved independence without war.

Without violence, Imperial Rome would have never existed, or ever brought down.

And that would be a tragedy because...

Without violence, Nazi Germany would've never been destroyed.

Without violence, it would never have existed in the first place.

Without violence, Isreal would be non-existent.

Without violence, it would not be under threat either.

Without violence, at least a billion people would be unemployed from their jobs as soldiers, combat nurses, pilots, etc.

Source for that number?

You know what- don't even bother. Militaries do not employ 1/7th of the Earth's population.

And you know, their are other productive ways those people could be employed.

Violence isn't the best cure for everything, but it is neccesary. And it has solved faaaar more problems in history than peaceful protests or flower power crap.

Perhaps, but its also caused far more problems.

It is neccesary and will continue to be for ever.

Thoughts?

Only a fool attempts to make such sweeping predictions about the future.

[Philjia]

Violence is only an acceptable solution if violence is already occurring.

[Ifreann]

This argument is the biggest load of bull**** I've ever heard. Violence, raw, naked power has solved more problems in history than anything.

Book, or movie?

[New Axiom]

This argument is the biggest load of bull**** I've ever heard. Violence, raw, naked power has solved more problems in history than anything.

And this, right here, shows what your real motive is- the idolization of violence and power for its own sake.

Frankly, this sounds like insecurity and posturing. Classic "internet tough guy" stuff.

Before we even start, I'm not advocating violence. I'm just saying it solves stuff and is sometimes necessary.

A self-contradiction. You are definitely advocating violence, at least in the theoretical if not the specific sense.

Okay, here we go.
Without violence, America wouldn't have ever been separated from the British Empire. And yes, we tried the peaceful route, but that didn't work, so tyere was a war, wich is a violent thing, that separated us and made us America, a country I happen to love.

A different time.

Also, their are numerous examples of nations that achieved independence without war.

Without violence, Imperial Rome would have never existed, or ever brought down.

And that would be a tragedy because...

Without violence, Nazi Germany would've never been destroyed.

Without violence, it would never have existed in the first place.

Without violence, Isreal would be non-existent.

Without violence, it would not be under threat either.

Without violence, at least a billion people would be unemployed from their jobs as soldiers, combat nurses, pilots, etc.

Source for that number?

You know what- don't even bother. Militaries do not employ 1/7th of the Earth's population.

And you know, their are other productive ways those people could be employed.

Violence isn't the best cure for everything, but it is neccesary. And it has solved faaaar more problems in history than peaceful protests or flower power crap.

Perhaps, but its also caused far more problems.

It is neccesary and will continue to be for ever.

Thoughts?

Only a fool attempts to make such sweeping predictions about the future.

Mmhmm. "Classic internet tough guy stuff". Man, you should be a psychologist!

It doesn't matter if the American Revolution was fought in a different time, it was fought and won and acts all my point was for that part.

It is not a self contradiction. I'm not idolize ng violence, but it is the most effective way of solving many international problems. I don't like math either, but that, too, is neccesary.

Where is your proof of any nation founded without violence? I believe you, i just would like some proof.

And on the case of Isreal, if there was no violence, it wouldn't have existed to never be under threat in the first place.

[Victorious Decepticons]

You're wrong.
Violence is the best tool for everything. It gives you a nice feel of power, a nice rush of emotion, and you feel like you did something good today and you're alive and invincible, by showing the shits who represent your coming death what's what!

Seconded with the force of a thousand suns.

[NewVinlandia]

Agreed. Well, that was easy.

[Camicon]

Violence is a physical manifestation of conflict.

Yes, violence does solve problems, sometimes better than anything else might.

No, that does not mean violence is the best way of resolving every problem.

[The Romulan Republic]

Violence is only an acceptable solution if violence is already occurring.

Even that's a bit overly broad and simplistic (their are scenarios where retreat, passive resistance, negotiation, or surrender are pragmatically the best course of action), but its a starting point.

There is, of course, a right to self-defence.

[Esternial]

Depends on what you call problems.

If you only focus on the kind of problems than can only be solved with violence, than you're right.

But that's like saying you can't find fish in a tree, thus there are no fish. Not making a point or any sense either.

[Dushan]

This argument is the biggest load of bull**** I've ever heard. Violence, raw, naked power has solved more problems in history than anything.

Book, or movie?

Wondered the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_urWSSZgwU

[Internationalist Bastard]

You know, I was a a soldier,and I'm saying no. It's an easy,short solution, but it can't truly fix a problem. Kinda like duct tape

[Maurepas]

Book, or movie?

Wondered the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_urWSSZgwU

Was literally about to post it, lol

[Ifreann]

Wondered the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_urWSSZgwU

Was literally about to post it, lol

Gotta watch that movie again.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Was literally about to post it, lol

Gotta watch that movie again.

It's on netflix last I checked. Can't tell you how many times I've shouted "BUGS!" on patrol.

[Ifreann]

Gotta watch that movie again.

It's on netflix last I checked. Can't tell you how many times I've shouted "BUGS!" on patrol.

I have the DVD...somewhere.

[Internationalist Bastard]

It's on netflix last I checked. Can't tell you how many times I've shouted "BUGS!" on patrol.

I have the DVD...somewhere.

Bad news mate, it's on Klendathu

[The Black Forrest]

Violence lost us the library of Alexandria and the Serapeum.
Violence lost us Palymyra
Violence wreaked the Great Mosque of Samarra
Violence lost us the Buddhas of Bamiyan.
Violence is wrecking the old city of Sanaa.
Violence is destroying the ancient city of Bosra.
Violence destroyed the great Mosque of Aleppo.
Violence is destroying the Citadel of Aleppo.
Violence is destroying the Crac des Chevaliers
Violence destroyed Johah's tomb.
Violence wrecked the Khaled Ibn Walid Mosque
Violence destroyed the Armenian genocide museum.
Violence has destroyed many tracts of Cyrene
Violence wrecked the Al-Omari Mosque.

[The Black Forrest]

I have the DVD...somewhere.

Bad news mate, it's on Klendathu

Would you like to know more?

[Expectareaction]

This argument is the biggest load of bull**** I've ever heard. Violence, raw, naked power has solved more problems in history than anything.

I too enjoy Starship Troopers.