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Postby New Grestin » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:25 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Trump becomes a martyr and someone else replaces him.

Or, more likely, the Republicans have a convenient opportunity to slide someone else onto the ballot.

Wait.

Holy shit.

What if it was a Briton, paid by the Republican Party, because they wanted to get rid of Trump, and-

My god.
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Postby Herskerstad » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:43 pm

If the hit was successful, then the way that would alter the political climate and make the discourse even more unstable is significant, and would not be in anyone's interest.
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Postby Ariasteppe » Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:05 pm

Gurori wrote:I wonder what would have followed if the attempt succeeded...

Corey Lewandowski dons a red dress, proclaims himself the Red Priestess, and a few days later Trump walks again, proclaiming himself literally Jesus.
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Postby Natapoc » Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:19 pm

People keep equating trump to a NAZI, a modern day Hitler.

It's a popular, but misguided, idea that if someone would have shot hitler before he came to power, that WWII and the devastation of Europe would have been avoided.

With this kind of hyperbole it's no surprise that someone took it seriously. It may be a good idea to stop calling ones political opponents Hitler.
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:25 pm

Natapoc wrote:People keep equating trump to a NAZI, a modern day Hitler.

It's a popular, but misguided, idea that if someone would have shot hitler before he came to power, that WWII and the devastation of Europe would have been avoided.

With this kind of hyperbole it's no surprise that someone took it seriously. It may be a good idea to stop calling ones political opponents Hitler.


Hitler also did not con Nazi Party members out of their money on ventures like Hitler University.
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:29 pm

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Natapoc wrote:People keep equating trump to a NAZI, a modern day Hitler.

It's a popular, but misguided, idea that if someone would have shot hitler before he came to power, that WWII and the devastation of Europe would have been avoided.

With this kind of hyperbole it's no surprise that someone took it seriously. It may be a good idea to stop calling ones political opponents Hitler.


Hitler also did not con Nazi Party members out of their money on ventures like Hitler University.

There is a new university I have created to con white supremacist out of money
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Postby Renoa » Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:00 pm

Gauthier wrote:
New Grestin wrote:It's obviously a plot by the British, bringing rapists and murderers into our glorious country.

We need to build a wall between the US and Britain. It's the only way to be sure they can't stop our country from being great again.


And make Britain pay for it!

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Postby Allet Klar Chefs » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:21 am

Gauthier wrote:Hitler also did not con Nazi Party members out of their money on ventures like Hitler University.

VW mate.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:23 am

Well, he didn't try to kill Trump, he didn't get to a stage where that was possible.
He went there with the intention of killing Trump.

Really badly.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:47 am

Gurori wrote:
Risottia wrote:Well, last week a Briton who cared enough about a certain US political group killed a British MP, iirc.


So... revenge?

Seriously though, a brit trying to shoot trump?

I wonder what would have followed if the attempt succeeded...


Option 1.
The Reps nominate a new candidate. Hillary wins. No fuss.

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Postby Risottia » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:55 am

Natapoc wrote:People keep equating trump to a NAZI, a modern day Hitler.

It's a popular, but misguided, idea that if someone would have shot hitler before he came to power, that WWII and the devastation of Europe would have been avoided.

With this kind of hyperbole it's no surprise that someone took it seriously. It may be a good idea to stop calling ones political opponents Hitler.


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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:57 am

Risottia wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:Why would a Briton care about US politics?

Well, last week a Briton who cared enough about a certain US political group killed a British MP, iirc.

I'm sorry, at what point did Americans ever come into it? He spouted pro-Brexit statements and proclaimed "death to traitors".
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Postby Risottia » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:01 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Risottia wrote:Well, last week a Briton who cared enough about a certain US political group killed a British MP, iirc.

I'm sorry, at what point did Americans ever come into it? He spouted pro-Brexit statements and proclaimed "death to traitors".

He used to be in contact with an American Nazi group called the National Alliance or something like that, iirc.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:03 am

Risottia wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm sorry, at what point did Americans ever come into it? He spouted pro-Brexit statements and proclaimed "death to traitors".

He used to be in contact with an American Nazi group called the National Alliance or something like that, iirc.

About a decade ago. He is believed to have acquired a handbook from them explaining how to, presumably amongst other things, assemble the homemade handgun he used in his attack.

Also about a decade ago, he was also believed to be in contact with a South Africa pro-Apartheid publication. We know this because they mentioned him by name in print, wondering whether he was still subscribed because they missed him.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:22 am

I'm going to come to the country with the largest number of Civilians firearms per capita, in the WORLD. And i'm going to try and steal one off a Police Officer to assassinate a politician? Probably should've done a little bit more critical thinking on that one.


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Postby Old Tyrannia » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:48 am

Imperial City-States wrote:I'm going to come to the country with the largest number of Civilians firearms per capita, in the WORLD. And i'm going to try and steal one off a Police Officer to assassinate a politician? Probably should've done a little bit more critical thinking on that one.


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Your presidential candidates are Donald "We're Gunna Build A Wall" Trump and Hillary "What Incriminating Emails?" Clinton.

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:50 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Risottia wrote:Well, last week a Briton who cared enough about a certain US political group killed a British MP, iirc.

I'm sorry, at what point did Americans ever come into it? He spouted pro-Brexit statements and proclaimed "death to traitors".

Mair apparently had links to an American Neo-Nazi organisation.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:05 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:I'm going to come to the country with the largest number of Civilians firearms per capita, in the WORLD. And i'm going to try and steal one off a Police Officer to assassinate a politician? Probably should've done a little bit more critical thinking on that one.


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Your presidential candidates are Donald "We're Gunna Build A Wall" Trump and Hillary "What Incriminating Emails?" Clinton.

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Postby Gauthier » Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:08 am

It's lovely how everyone is certain Hillary Clinton is cleverly hiding criminal conduct from the world when there's been nearly nonstop sifting through her life for the past 20 years.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:21 am

Gauthier wrote:It's lovely how everyone is certain Hillary Clinton is cleverly hiding criminal conduct from the world when there's been nearly nonstop sifting through her life for the past 20 years.



Unfortunately being a negligent moron is not a crime.
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:23 am

Imperial City-States wrote:
Gauthier wrote:It's lovely how everyone is certain Hillary Clinton is cleverly hiding criminal conduct from the world when there's been nearly nonstop sifting through her life for the past 20 years.



Unfortunately being a negligent moron is not a crime.


It's not like she let a lover browse through actual classified documents. *coughcoughPetraeuscoughcough*
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If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby New Alyssia » Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:32 am

It was a stupid move that makes people who oppose Trump look bad. Killing people, even Trump, is pretty much always bad.
If you disagree with somebody strongly you must never silence them, because if they are wrong it should become evident to the majority as your opponent makes their flawed argument.
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:37 am

New Alyssia wrote:It was a stupid move that makes people who oppose Trump look bad. Killing people, even Trump, is pretty much always bad.
If you disagree with somebody strongly you must never silence them, because if they are wrong it should become evident to the majority as your opponent makes their flawed argument.


It was not even a methodically planned attempt to assassinate Trump as much as a desperate ploy to suicide by cop and get attention at the same time.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Ralkovian Grand Island » Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:43 am

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Thanks, man, you've provided me with some more evidence for my position.

A thousandth is still a lot in the number of 11 Million+


Okay, let's be clear here. That's a thousandth of a percent for Murder. That doesn't cover robbery, rape, assault, trafficking, etc.

And that thousandth of a percent is people that were in immigration custody and then released before killing American Citizens or another human being.

Those are 121 people that we caught. Do you think that number might be, I don't know, much higher for actual murders, because, you know, we don't know who is in the country, their names, addresses, or locations.

It's hard to arrest people that don't have a picture in the database or a crime record tied to their names because they are illegal.
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Postby Olerand » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:22 am

So... why?
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