New Granadeseret wrote:The Portland Territory wrote:Well think about it: They waltz in here and we don't know who the hell they are. Trump has actually advocated for legal immigration and has stated that he even considers giving some illegals amnesty. But remember, we don't know who the hell they are. They could be drug dealers, murderers, rapers, and dangerous criminals. And many of them are.
It's not racist or xenophobic, it's protection of our own nation with logic and statistics
True, they could be. I don't think anybody is claiming that illegals who have or later do commit felonies shouldn't be punished. But our legal system has the presumption of innocence, so you can't just assume an illegal picked at random is a violent criminal either. The crime we do know they are guilty of is enter the country illegally/ overstaying a legal visa, and the discussion needs to be based on the extent of the punishment that crime deserves and what we can effectively implement. Deportation is certainly one option, but its one of many we nerd to consider.
Agreed. This is why we must stop illegal immigration so that the good immigrants can come in and the bad ones stay out
[/i]Utceforp wrote:The Portland Territory wrote:Well think about it: They waltz in here and we don't know who the hell they are. Trump has actually advocated for legal immigration and has stated that he even considers giving some illegals amnesty. But remember, we don't know who the hell they are. They could be drug dealers, murderers, rapers, and dangerous criminals. And many of them are.
It's not racist or xenophobic, it's protection of our own nation with logic and statistics
This kind of "I don't know who they are, so they must be a threat" logic is ridiculous. Do you have [i]any statistics to back up your/Trump's claims that "many" undocumented immigrants are "drug dealers"/"murderers"/"rapers"/etc.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/08/politics/ ... nts-crime/
And this is from CNN, a major Liberal outlet so don't cry about bias to me