Mr. President, do NOT ban assault weapons!

[Genivaria]

Am I the only one who thinks the Second Amendment is basically just a massive case of Appeal To Tradition now?

After all every other nation on the planet manages just fine without an equivalent.

We can't have a reasonable discussion when any regulation mentioned is equated to ripping the 2nd amendment out completely.
It's more of a hindrance at this point.

[Kathmandue]

I'm not posting this for debate, but, what is your reasoning for owning assault weapons in the first place?

[The balkens]

Am I the only one who thinks the Second Amendment is basically just a massive case of Appeal To Tradition now?

After all every other nation on the planet manages just fine without an equivalent.

Again.

Gun Culture.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Am I the only one who thinks the Second Amendment is basically just a massive case of Appeal To Tradition now?

After all every other nation on the planet manages just fine without an equivalent.

As a lawful firearm owner, collector, sport shooter, and all around enthusiast, I couldn't give a flying fuck less about what the rest of the world does in this regard.

[Xadufell]

Ten.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_m ... _Australia

I assumed it was obvious. Port Arthur saw 35 dead due to a semi-auto. Australia outlawed them and they haven't seen something like that since.

The Americans think Big Brother will appear if Assault Rifles are pulled......

Semi-automatic firearms aren't assault rifles.

Isn't it ironic that all these gun control advocates know next to nothing about guns?

[Paddy O Fernature]

I'm not posting this for debate, but, what is your reasoning for owning assault weapons in the first place?

You mean semiautomatic sporting rifles?

[The balkens]

I'm not posting this for debate, but, what is your reasoning for owning assault weapons in the first place?

Collecting and shooting.

and in the event of defense.

[Conserative Morality]

First off, my Sig P226 has been a virtue in stopping would-be muggers. And I'm not saying that because a firearm has saved my life means it can save everyone's, don't be a stereotypical liberal.

Also, because it's rare that people use firearms to defend themselves against crime means that we should entirely pass over the argument?

It's statistically irrelevant. Most defensive uses of guns are with long arms, and most defensive uses of handguns are at home, not when carried in public. Furthermore, gun owners are more likely to be shot in a home assault than non-gun owners, and there's little evidence to suggest that defensive gun use statistically reduces the probability of loss of property or personal injury.

I believe Big Jim P has a statistic floating around that estimates Defensive Gun Uses to be much higher than statistics currently show, because not all uses require a police report, and are therefore available for analysis.

Nonetheless, I'd much rather have the opportunity to defend myself then not and just hope I don't need to.

Other than Big Jim P being ridiculous on his best days, I want to know who exactly shoots someone else and doesn't bother to report it?

[Genivaria]

I assumed it was obvious. Port Arthur saw 35 dead due to a semi-auto. Australia outlawed them and they haven't seen something like that since.

The Americans think Big Brother will appear if Assault Rifles are pulled......

Semi-automatic firearms aren't assault rifles.

Isn't it ironic that all these gun control advocates know next to nothing about guns?

I don't believe he claimed they were, nice try though.

[Genivaria]

I'm not posting this for debate, but, what is your reasoning for owning assault weapons in the first place?

Collecting and shooting.

and in the event of defense.

From.....?

[Xadufell]

I'm not posting this for debate, but, what is your reasoning for owning assault weapons in the first place?

Semi-automatic rifles aren't "assault weapons", if anything my hammer should be considered an assault weapon because it's black, has a detachable head and a highly ergonomic and dangerous pistol grip.

[Paredonia]

Because individuality is really important when the death count keeps going up and up and up and up isn't it?

Gun crime has been declining for like two decades

And is at the lowest point since the 1950's I think.

And yet the yearly American death toll from gun violence is pretty much higher than for the rest of the entire Western world combined. If this is the lowest, then you really have a serious problem.

[The balkens]

Collecting and shooting.

and in the event of defense.

From.....?

Looters, rioters Etc.

oh and giving Feintstein a reason to be in the senate i guess.

[Kathmandue]

I'm not posting this for debate, but, what is your reasoning for owning assault weapons in the first place?

Collecting and shooting.

and in the event of defense.

But should high capacity magazines be allowed?

[Paddy O Fernature]

Collecting and shooting.

and in the event of defense.

From.....?

Government reintroduced wolves are the biggie around me. Right next to bear, mountain lion, coyotes, and moose.

[Ostroeuropa]

Gun crime has been declining for like two decades

And is at the lowest point since the 1950's I think.

And yet the yearly American death toll from gun violence is pretty much higher than for the rest of the entire Western world combined. If this is the lowest, then you really have a serious problem.

It's the gang wars and war on drugs causing it. It's much more pragmatic to end the war on drugs and then monitor the level of gun violence to see if it's still extremely abnormal.

[Ifreann]

I'm not posting this for debate, but, what is your reasoning for owning assault weapons in the first place?

Battling nature's super animals, like the electric eel and flying fox.

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Am I the only one who thinks the Second Amendment is basically just a massive case of Appeal To Tradition now?

After all every other nation on the planet manages just fine without an equivalent.

Again.

Gun Culture.

Legislation protecting minority culture, you say?

[Annorax]

I'm not posting this for debate, but, what is your reasoning for owning assault weapons in the first place?

Don't need a reason because it is an inalienable right, it is like asking why do you need free speech.

[Genivaria]

I'm not posting this for debate, but, what is your reasoning for owning assault weapons in the first place?

Semi-automatic rifles aren't "assault weapons", if anything my hammer should be considered an assault weapon because it's black, has a detachable head and a highly ergonomic and dangerous pistol grip.

I tried squinting and tilting my head and I still can't understand how that equation made sense.

[Xadufell]

Semi-automatic firearms aren't assault rifles.

Isn't it ironic that all these gun control advocates know next to nothing about guns?

I don't believe he claimed they were, nice try though.

I could only assumed that because the Orlando shooter used an AR-15 that he would consider it an "assault weapon".

[Paddy O Fernature]

Collecting and shooting.

and in the event of defense.

But should high capacity magazines be allowed?

Absolutely.

[Genivaria]

I don't believe he claimed they were, nice try though.

I could only assumed that because the Orlando shooter used an AR-15 that he would consider it an "assault weapon".

That's your problem there.

[Conserative Morality]

There are no loopholes regarding online sales,

Not true at all, actually. That's a common myth.

and the gun show loophole everyone talks about is private sales which is an entirely other thing.

Yeah, pretty sure it being a 'private sale' shouldn't excuse a lack of background checks.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'm not posting this for debate, but, what is your reasoning for owning assault weapons in the first place?

"Assault weapons" is a nonsense term made up by people who don't know what they're talking about and want to make things sound scary.

The term you're looking for is semi-automatic rifle, and it's the same reason I own every gun I have. Collecting, shooting and self defense if the need arises.

Other than Big Jim P being ridiculous on his best days, I want to know who exactly shoots someone else and doesn't bother to report it?

Not all DGU's end in a shooting, I've drawn my Glock before in a situation that warranted it but no shots were fired. I'd consider that a DGU myself.

Gun crime has been declining for like two decades

And is at the lowest point since the 1950's I think.

And yet the yearly American death toll from gun violence is pretty much higher than for the rest of the entire Western world combined. If this is the lowest, then you really have a serious problem.

Welcome to the drug war.

[The East Marches]

Assault weapons won't change anything. Handguns are the real mass killer. Now, the real question is what to do about handguns? How do you fix that problem without either dearming legal citizens unnecessarily or infringing on people's right to due process?

Fix the loopholes regarding online sales and gun shows, properly fund the organizations doing background checks, change it so that background checks don't automatically go through within three days time if the Feds don't get around to it by then, registration of handguns nationwide, require a license for handgun possession.

Registration prohibited by law. Requirement for license might make it through. Those background checks thing is to prevent circumventing of the law by creating an artificial backlog as with the tax stamp debacles.

tbh I could get on board with the first two though. Online sales still have to have background check I thought. Gun shows need background checks in IL. I can't speak for other states though I'm sure there are a few that don't require them.

I've been shilling hard for high school classes for gun education like driver's ed. It'd be a cool elective and teach kids how to handle something that is generally apart of American life. I had one at mine and it did wonders. Arguably, the conceal carry class I had to take was even better. If it could meld the explanation of the laws, range time and the practical aspect I got when I was in high school, that would be best. I'm just dreaming I know. That idea has no potential to get done at all.