Orlando Nightclub Shooting

[Gauthier]

It's called "Fighting Terrorism," get it right.

Because arresting people for leaving roses, in memory of terror victims, will totally stop terrorism.

Muslims are like Gambit, anything they touch turns explosive.

[Val Halla]

I know people hate us. What annoys me is that it takes a major event like this for people to act like they're on our side, then will no doubt go back to ignoring queerphobic violence and general discrimination.

I'm also annoyed at the complete lack of respect the people around me have shown but it's not like people being dicks is surprising

It's opportunism at its finest. The only thing they hate more than LGBTs are Muslims so when this happened they got to act like they were on the side of LGBTs all along and wailing crocodile tears while bemoaning how the country is too SJW to crack down on the Muslim Menace.

The faux support is something I don't want. Wanna be an ally? Don't become an apologist for homophobia.

[Minzerland]

I know people hate us. What annoys me is that it takes a major event like this for people to act like they're on our side, then will no doubt go back to ignoring queerphobic violence and general discrimination.

I'm also annoyed at the complete lack of respect the people around me have shown but it's not like people being dicks is surprising

It's opportunism at its finest. The only thing they hate more than LGBTs are Muslims so when this happened they got to act like they were on the side of LGBTs all along and wailing crocodile tears while bemoaning how the country is too SJW to crack down on the Muslim Menace.

Who are these opportunist, Anti-Muslim, Anti-SJW and Anti-LGBT people?

[Jochizyd Republic]

I know people hate us. What annoys me is that it takes a major event like this for people to act like they're on our side, then will no doubt go back to ignoring queerphobic violence and general discrimination.

I'm also annoyed at the complete lack of respect the people around me have shown but it's not like people being dicks is surprising

It's opportunism at its finest. The only thing they hate more than LGBTs are Muslims so when this happened they got to act like they were on the side of LGBTs all along and wailing crocodile tears while bemoaning how the country is too SJW to crack down on the Muslim Menace.

Which is extremely annoying.

Almost as annoying as Leftists absolute refusal to admit that Fundamentalism is widespread a large chunk of the worlds Muslims
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the- ... ut-sharia/

And their refusal to deal with it effectively.

[Luminesa]

We have reactionaries using the victims to push banning people on the basis of religion and/or ethnicity. We have the pseudo-left trying to use them to justify gun-grabbing. Both groups need to shut the fuck up. The bodies of those who didn't make it aren't even cold yet, for fuck's sake, and they're not your political props in any case!

Saying "maybe we should restrict gun ownership" isn't politicization, it's attempting to find a solution to the problem. The people who are using this to push for discriminatory policies and xenophobia are politicizing the tragedy though, especially since most of them are homophobes themselves.

But what he's trying to say is this time right after these murders should be a time to mourn, reflect, pray, and to come together in love and peace. The arguing can wait at least a week. Besides, everyone is too angry and emotional right now, trying to argue such things right now will only end with everyone getting warned and/or banned.

[Freefall11111]

It's opportunism at its finest. The only thing they hate more than LGBTs are Muslims so when this happened they got to act like they were on the side of LGBTs all along and wailing crocodile tears while bemoaning how the country is too SJW to crack down on the Muslim Menace.

Who are these opportunist, Anti-Muslim, Anti-SJW and Anti-LGBT people?

You don't know any people who hate Muslims, LGBT people, and "SJW's"?

[Patridam]

We have reactionaries using the victims to push banning people on the basis of religion and/or ethnicity. We have the pseudo-left trying to use them to justify gun-grabbing. Both groups need to shut the fuck up. The bodies of those who didn't make it aren't even cold yet, for fuck's sake, and they're not your political props in any case!

Saying "maybe we should restrict gun ownership" isn't politicization, it's attempting to find a solution to the problem. The people who are using this to push for discriminatory policies and xenophobia are politicizing the tragedy though, especially since most of them are homophobes themselves.

Look, if going after guns is just people trying to solve the problem, then going after radical islam is also trying to solve the problem. Both are politicized, really, with people who have fought for gun control before trying to use this to advance their cause, and with people who have fought against the spread of radical islam using it to advocate theirs.

Either neither are both are politicized, its up to how you define it, but don't arbitrarily decide the solution you don't like is politicized but the one you do like isn't.

[Utceforp]

It's opportunism at its finest. The only thing they hate more than LGBTs are Muslims so when this happened they got to act like they were on the side of LGBTs all along and wailing crocodile tears while bemoaning how the country is too SJW to crack down on the Muslim Menace.

Who are these opportunist, Anti-Muslim, Anti-SJW and Anti-LGBT people?

Republicans. Most notably Trump, but since he's always been more of a xenophobe than a homophobe he's less obvious in his hypocrisy than other right-wingers.

[Asloiji]

Does love really win in the end?

[Patridam]

Who are these opportunist, Anti-Muslim, Anti-SJW and Anti-LGBT people?

You don't know any people who hate Muslims, LGBT people, and "SJW's"?

Please don't use "and" in this context. A person who hates SJW's is in no way obliged to hate Muslims and LGBT's.

[Minzerland]

Who are these opportunist, Anti-Muslim, Anti-SJW and Anti-LGBT people?

You don't know any people who hate Muslims, LGBT people, and "SJW's"?

No. To the contrary actually.

[Utceforp]

Saying "maybe we should restrict gun ownership" isn't politicization, it's attempting to find a solution to the problem. The people who are using this to push for discriminatory policies and xenophobia are politicizing the tragedy though, especially since most of them are homophobes themselves.

But what he's trying to say is this time right after these murders should be a time to mourn, reflect, pray, and to come together in love and peace. The arguing can wait at least a week. Besides, everyone is too angry and emotional right now, trying to argue such things right now will only end with everyone getting warned and/or banned.

Saying "maybe we should restrict gun ownership" isn't politicization, it's attempting to find a solution to the problem. The people who are using this to push for discriminatory policies and xenophobia are politicizing the tragedy though, especially since most of them are homophobes themselves.

Look, if going after guns is just people trying to solve the problem, then going after radical islam is also trying to solve the problem. Both are politicized, really, with people who have fought for gun control before trying to use this to advance their cause, and with people who have fought against the spread of radical islam using it to advocate theirs.

Either neither are both are politicized, its up to how you define it, but don't arbitrarily decide the solution you don't like is politicized but the one you do like isn't.

Alright, in hindsight, you're right. I'm sorry.

Though right-wing homophobes using this to justify Islamophobia will always be politicization and hypocritical by its very nature.

[Jochizyd Republic]

It's opportunism at its finest. The only thing they hate more than LGBTs are Muslims so when this happened they got to act like they were on the side of LGBTs all along and wailing crocodile tears while bemoaning how the country is too SJW to crack down on the Muslim Menace.

Who are these opportunist, Anti-Muslim, Anti-SJW and Anti-LGBT people?

Being Anti SJW is bad now? Wat

[Freefall11111]

You don't know any people who hate Muslims, LGBT people, and "SJW's"?

No. To the contrary actually.

Do you live in some kind of liberal bastion? Such people exist in many places in the West, usually in the lower class.

[Oneracon]

I know people hate us. What annoys me is that it takes a major event like this for people to act like they're on our side, then will no doubt go back to ignoring queerphobic violence and general discrimination.

I'm also annoyed at the complete lack of respect the people around me have shown but it's not like people being dicks is surprising

It's opportunism at its finest. The only thing they hate more than LGBTs are Muslims so when this happened they got to act like they were on the side of LGBTs all along and wailing crocodile tears while bemoaning how the country is too SJW to crack down on the Muslim Menace.

I literally had to turn off my computer and go do something calming after reading that Ted Cruz released a statement calling for Democrats to "stand up" for LGBT people by supporting a full-on shooting war with Daesh... when in November he and Jindal had no problem sharing a stage with a pastor who, merely moments before introducing Cruz, said that gay people were "deserving of death".

[Patridam]

Who are these opportunist, Anti-Muslim, Anti-SJW and Anti-LGBT people?

Republicans. Most notably Trump, but since he's always been more of a xenophobe than a homophobe he's less obvious in his hypocrisy than other right-wingers.

Trump is in no way homophobic, unless you're one of those folks who decide anyone who isn't constantly and actively fighting for not only LGBT rights but also all of the leftist policies that are expected to go along with them is homophobic. He's indifferent at worst.

Does love really win in the end?

Depends on how you define "the end", I suppose.

[Gauthier]

Who are these opportunist, Anti-Muslim, Anti-SJW and Anti-LGBT people?

Being Anti SJW is bad now? Wat

SJW is the new communism. Call someone you can't stand an SJW and watch the public swarm over them like zombies.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Because arresting people for leaving roses, in memory of terror victims, will totally stop terrorism.

Muslims are like Gambit, anything they touch turns explosive.

Like Leftists with everything they try to defend.

Including Islam. Please stop ignoring the gravity of the fundamentalist problem.

[Luminesa]

Does love really win in the end?

Through the bickering and the anger and the politics, yes. A group of people standing together and loving each other through hard times is always stronger than hatred.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/13/chick-fil-responds-orlando-massacre-free-food-bloo/


Apparently Chic Fil-A opened on Sunday to give free food to those giving blood and to first responders. So do you think this is a clever business ploy or do they actually care?

While it's doubtful that they're unaware of how it looks as a business move, I'd say that they're trying to be good corporate citizens. I vehmently disagree with their support of anti-marriage equality legislation and groups, but I don't think that they're actually evil so much as misguided on this one issue.

[Jastorf]

http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/06/13 ... use-ar-15/

http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/06/14 ... ed-anyway/

Just gonna leave these here.

[Internationalist Bastard]

It was a horrible event. Of course this means that literally every political view has been brought up in it's wake.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Being Anti SJW is bad now? Wat

SJW is the new communism. Call someone you can't stand an SJW and watch the public swarm over them like zombies.

There is truth in that. Absolutely. "Bigotry/Racism" acts this way as well.

Everyone else is caught between the Tumblrina and the Alt Rightist. Smooshed between the love handles of two landwhales.

[Jochizyd Republic]

It's opportunism at its finest. The only thing they hate more than LGBTs are Muslims so when this happened they got to act like they were on the side of LGBTs all along and wailing crocodile tears while bemoaning how the country is too SJW to crack down on the Muslim Menace.

I literally had to turn off my computer and go do something calming after reading that Ted Cruz released a statement calling for Democrats to "stand up" for LGBT people by supporting a full-on shooting war with Daesh... when in November he and Jindal had no problem sharing a stage with a pastor who, merely moments before introducing Cruz, said that gay people were "deserving of death".

Oh shit. Who was that?

[Patridam]

Being Anti SJW is bad now? Wat

SJW is the new communism. Call someone you can't stand an SJW and watch the public swarm over them like zombies.

Where? Where does this happen?* I want to move there. Because where I am, at a university campus, that sort of thing happens, but only when someone calls you.... a... a.... trump supporter. Or any number of insults (founded or not),e.g. a racist, homophobe, sexist, et cetera.

*In real life. I do see this happen in some contexts online, but not everywhere online even.