Gay Nightclub Attacked in Orlando, FL

[West Aurelia]

Is there any information on the weaponry he had and how he got it and if he had any body armour or such? Out of curiosity.

He had a firearms license and used an AR-15 and handgun.

[Freefall11111]

The Trump train will have no breaks after this, I can feel it

It's cute that you think anyone will see this and then vote Trump.

[Rodrania]

Jesus, this is going to make things worse as a whole for everyone.

Wackados are everywhere. God has told Christians to kill people too.

I am still trying to get my hands around why westerners would think isis is cool.

My point was that Wackos' actions tend to create more wackos.

And I have no idea either, but I guess it'd be harder for someone without an specific religion such as myself to understand such a thing, I'm pretty much stupid when it comes to theology and how religious extremism can make people do such awful things, even when they are "Westerners".

[Washington Resistance Army]

There was just a senator on CNN who said the Intelligence Committee has reason to believe he pledged allegiance to Daesh.

Pledging allegiance to ISIS is rather different from being connected with them. I could pledge my allegiance right now, wouldn't really mean shit.

Sure it wouldn't mean much if you didn't do anything afterwards, but this wouldn't be the first time people pledged allegiance to Daesh before carrying out attacks.

Is there any information on the weaponry he had and how he got it and if he had any body armour or such? Out of curiosity.

1x handgun, 1x rifle, possible explosives. By all accounts so far the guns were acquired legally as he had gone out of his way to legally get licenses and whatnot.

[Imperializt Russia]

I asked you to demonstrate to me that it isn't coincidence.
This isn't that.

But it is?

What makes me inclined to think that it isn't a coincidence is that every other time when it was found out that the shooter was Muslim it was later found out the shooters motives were from a radicalized belief in Islam.

You've presented an argument why you believe it to be the case.

You've failed to demonstrate it as fact.

[Skyviolia]

Not all Muslims are against gays

Just gonna leave this picture for you, so you can see the bigger picture.

What are trying to say? That people are watching the execution because they want to. Two things -

1. Have you ever considered that many of the people HAD to go to the execution
2. Muslims are 1.6 billion in numbers. You cant contain all muslims in that crowd.

[Rodrania]

Just gonna leave this picture for you, so you can see the bigger picture.

That's PG13+ plus content.

I fail to see how that's PG13, there is no blood, gore or sexual content. While it may be disturbing for some people, it's not really gory or sexual.

[Greed and Death]

Hmm good idea Omar was gay. No longer Terrorism just a bad break up.

I hear Ramadan can make people cranky. Perhaps he was a hired stripper and someone insulted fatigued performance and by proxy, his ancestors.

Good call all gay people are required to take sensitivity training in how they treat Muslim strippers.

[Conserative Morality]

Wackados are everywhere. God has told Christians to kill people too.

I am still trying to get my hands around why westerners would think isis is cool.

Feelings of isolation and desperation. At some point it gets to where you want to give up your life for something, and right now, radical Islam is the easiest to claim in the West.

[Imperializt Russia]

Pledging allegiance to ISIS is rather different from being connected with them. I could pledge my allegiance right now, wouldn't really mean shit.

Sure it wouldn't mean much if you didn't do anything afterwards, but this wouldn't be the first time people pledged allegiance to Daesh before carrying out attacks.

Is there any information on the weaponry he had and how he got it and if he had any body armour or such? Out of curiosity.

1x handgun, 1x rifle, possible explosives. By all accounts so far the guns were acquired legally as he had gone out of his way to legally get licenses and whatnot.

Do you have anything on the "licences"? What sort of licences, since I would have assumed this meant either CC or hunting licence or something, since I wasn't aware of requiring a licence to own?
Or do some states require handgun licences now?

[Gauliscia]

That's PG13+ plus content.

I fail to see how that's PG13, there is no blood, gore or sexual content. While it may be disturbing for some people, it's not really gory or sexual.

It's depicting someone in a moment of potential mortality. That's graphic content.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Sure it wouldn't mean much if you didn't do anything afterwards, but this wouldn't be the first time people pledged allegiance to Daesh before carrying out attacks.



1x handgun, 1x rifle, possible explosives. By all accounts so far the guns were acquired legally as he had gone out of his way to legally get licenses and whatnot.

Do you have anything on the "licences"? What sort of licences, since I would have assumed this meant either CC or hunting licence or something, since I wasn't aware of requiring a licence to own?
Or do some states require handgun licences now?

Someone posted it a while back in the thread but he did have what's called a "Statewide firearms license", it's something they have in Florida but idk what exactly it's for.

[Rhodesialund]

Just gonna leave this picture for you, so you can see the bigger picture.

In IS controlled areas, people who live there are rarely IS supporters or sympathisers, and they are indeed forced at gunpoint to witness public executions.

So, though you clearly didn't intend it to be, that image caption is mostly accurate.

LOLRIGHT

Keep defending them, sure. Meanwhile, I'd be stoned to death by these people for being Trans, especially the moderates.

[Conserative Morality]

Do you have anything on the "licences"? What sort of licences, since I would have assumed this meant either CC or hunting licence or something, since I wasn't aware of requiring a licence to own?
Or do some states require handgun licences now?

I know my state requires a handgun license. It's not Florida though.

[Imperializt Russia]

I fail to see how that's PG13, there is no blood, gore or sexual content. While it may be disturbing for some people, it's not really gory or sexual.

It's depicting someone in a moment of potential mortality. That's graphic content.

I would disagree. Though he's clearly presented the image to shock, I would argue it is, as Rod suggested, disturbing but not graphic in the least.

Feel free to alert the mods if you wish, there's already a Moderation megathread.

[Cerillium]

That's PG13+ plus content.

I fail to see how that's PG13, there is no blood, gore or sexual content. While it may be disturbing for some people, it's not really gory or sexual.

PG13 deals with more than gore or sex. It might be considered obscene because it's snapped a second or so after he's been thrown from the building to his death.

/not a mod

[Gauliscia]

In IS controlled areas, people who live there are rarely IS supporters or sympathisers, and they are indeed forced at gunpoint to witness public executions.

So, though you clearly didn't intend it to be, that image caption is mostly accurate.

LOLRIGHT

Keep defending them, sure. Meanwhile, I'd be stoned to death by these people for being Trans, especially the moderates.

Real Muslims would not stone you.

[Rhodesialund]

Sure it wouldn't mean much if you didn't do anything afterwards, but this wouldn't be the first time people pledged allegiance to Daesh before carrying out attacks.



1x handgun, 1x rifle, possible explosives. By all accounts so far the guns were acquired legally as he had gone out of his way to legally get licenses and whatnot.

Do you have anything on the "licences"? What sort of licences, since I would have assumed this meant either CC or hunting licence or something, since I wasn't aware of requiring a licence to own?
Or do some states require handgun licences now?

It was a security guard license.

[Skyviolia]

LOLRIGHT

Keep defending them, sure. Meanwhile, I'd be stoned to death by these people for being Trans, especially the moderates.

Real Muslims would not stone you.

No person with decency would stone someone.

[Rodrania]

I fail to see how that's PG13, there is no blood, gore or sexual content. While it may be disturbing for some people, it's not really gory or sexual.

It's depicting someone in a moment of potential mortality. That's graphic content.

A PG-13 rating is a sterner warning by the Rating Board to parents to determine whether their children under age 13 should view the motion picture, as some material might not be suited for them. A PG-13 motion picture may go beyond the PG rating in theme, violence, nudity, sensuality, language, adult activities or other elements, but does not reach the restricted R category. The theme of the motion picture by itself will not result in a rating greater than PG-13, although depictions of activities related to a mature theme may result in a restricted rating for the motion picture. Any drug use will initially require at least a PG-13 rating. More than brief nudity will require at least a PG-13 rating, but such nudity in a PG-13 rated motion picture generally will not be sexually oriented. There may be depictions of violence in a PG-13 movie, but generally not both realistic and extreme or persistent violence. A motion picture’s single use of one of the harsher sexually-derived words, though only as an expletive, initially requires at least a PG-13 rating. More than one such expletive requires an R rating, as must even one of those words used in a sexual context. The Rating Board nevertheless may rate such a motion picture PG-13 if, based on a special vote by a two-thirds majority, the Raters feel that most American parents would believe that a PG-13 rating is appropriate because of the context or manner in which the words are used or because the use of those words in the motion picture is inconspicuous.

Source

[West Aurelia]

In IS controlled areas, people who live there are rarely IS supporters or sympathisers, and they are indeed forced at gunpoint to witness public executions.

So, though you clearly didn't intend it to be, that image caption is mostly accurate.

LOLRIGHT

Keep defending them, sure. Meanwhile, I'd be stoned to death by these people for being Trans, especially the moderates.

Mesut Özil wants to stone you to death for being trans?

[East Catalina]

Pledging allegiance to ISIS is rather different from being connected with them. I could pledge my allegiance right now, wouldn't really mean shit.

Sure it wouldn't mean much if you didn't do anything afterwards, but this wouldn't be the first time people pledged allegiance to Daesh before carrying out attacks.

Is there any information on the weaponry he had and how he got it and if he had any body armour or such? Out of curiosity.

1x handgun, 1x rifle, possible explosives. By all accounts so far the guns were acquired legally as he had gone out of his way to legally get licenses and whatnot.

Now that's weird. I wonder why he went to all that trouble...was he premeditating this for longer than I imagine?

[The Black Forrest]

Wackados are everywhere. God has told Christians to kill people too.

I am still trying to get my hands around why westerners would think isis is cool.

Feelings of isolation and desperation. At some point it gets to where you want to give up your life for something, and right now, radical Islam is the easiest to claim in the West.

But to join a death cult and enjoy wiping out history? Like I said; trouble getting it and accepting it.....

[Rhodesialund]

LOLRIGHT

Keep defending them, sure. Meanwhile, I'd be stoned to death by these people for being Trans, especially the moderates.

Real Muslims would not stone you.

You are right, they'd throw me off a building instead.

[Imperializt Russia]

In IS controlled areas, people who live there are rarely IS supporters or sympathisers, and they are indeed forced at gunpoint to witness public executions.

So, though you clearly didn't intend it to be, that image caption is mostly accurate.

LOLRIGHT

Keep defending them, sure. Meanwhile, I'd be stoned to death by these people for being Trans, especially the moderates.

You remember this thing that happened? Where IS invaded two countries and took their land? People weren't happy about that.

If you read any of the accounts inside IS areas, the big ones at the moment are coming out of Mosul and Fallujah, then it's a climate of fear.
There are people engaging in collusion and signing up out of desire to wage war but these are a stark minority - some people join IS to fight or in backroom positions because, well, if you want to buy bread at the inflated price, you need a paycheck and no-one's paying in those areas except IS.