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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:05 am

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Christian Democrats wrote:Prayers for the victims and their families.

The Western world must do more to combat the radicalized Muslim problem. We've fallen asleep.

We have no confirmation that this was an act of radicalization. Just because a Muslim does something bad doesn't mean it's because of there religion.


The writing is on the wall. There was even a senator on CNN a few minutes ago who said the shooter apparently pledged allegiance to Daesh and some other nonsense.

I will actually be shocked if it's shown to not be the result of radicalization.
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Postby Unified Governments » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:05 am

Rhyphix wrote:Get ready for Obama to once again say Islam is a religion of peace today.

You know, as much as I love poking fun at Obama and left wingers who mindlessly defend Islam... This joke is getting really old really fast.
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Postby Skyviolia » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:06 am

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That doesn't necessarily mean they advocate for the mass murder of gays.


But you do believe they go to hell, so they die permanently in some fashion.


Not all Muslims are against gays
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:06 am

Rhyphix wrote:Get ready for Obama to once again say Islam is a religion of peace today.

I assume you were too young to remember, but a couple days after 9/11, Bush quoted the Qu'ran, declared Islam a religion of peace, and begged Americans not to paint Islam with the brush of what happened that day.

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Postby Patridam » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:07 am

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For once, I wish one of these guns in mass shootings was a semiautomatic rifle, but with a full wood stock and no pistol grip or bayonet lug so people would understand that "gun looks scary" does not make a weapon more or less effective.

Already happened. Kind of. V-tech shooting was done with handguns.


I was more hoping for something that would shot that a semiautomatic rifle can indeed look like a "hunting rifle".

And the V tech thing only means that some places now also have definitions for "assault handguns".

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:07 am

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Christian Democrats wrote:Prayers for the victims and their families.

The Western world must do more to combat the radicalized Muslim problem. We've fallen asleep.

We have no confirmation that this was an act of radicalization. Just because a Muslim does something bad doesn't mean it's because of there religion.


However there is a fairly good chance there is. More investigation will prove one way or another, but my money is on. Was, and that religion is islam.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:08 am

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Chances are 9 out of 10 Muslims will believe homosexuality is immoral. Don't be surprised some of them may even decide to act violently against homosexuality when over half of the Muslims in a developed Western country such as the one this incident happened in want to ban homosexuality.



For the Islamophiles who immediately jumped in to shout BIBLE BELT, BIBLE BELT, that was an utterly erroneous and ill-informed assumption to be making. Statistically, a Christian in the U.S. may believe same-sex marriage shouldn't be legal. They aren't aiming to ban homosexuality like the majority of Muslims are.

You *do* realize that only a decade ago sodomy laws were not only still on the books and enforceable, but there was considerable outcry for them to remain so, right?
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Postby Rodrania » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:08 am

Jesus Christ, what the fuck. I'm watching the news from Argentina, so they might be wrong. They say the gunman was Afghan and a Muslim, is there any connection to the IS yet or no?
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:08 am

Rodrania wrote:Jesus Christ, what the fuck. I'm watching the news from Argentina, so they might be wrong. They say the gunman was Afghan and a Muslim, is there any connection to the IS yet or no?

No and I doubt there will be.

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Postby Skyviolia » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:08 am

If you want to talk about trump being a serial liar or anything else related to the election, then take it somewhere else.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:09 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Rhyphix wrote:Get ready for Obama to once again say Islam is a religion of peace today.

I assume you were too young to remember, but a couple days after 9/11, Bush quoted the Qu'ran, declared Islam a religion of peace, and begged Americans not to paint Islam with the brush of what happened that day.

You know what people like you have done?
You've made me miss Bush.

Woah man, let's not say things we may come to regret.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:09 am

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Rodrania wrote:Jesus Christ, what the fuck. I'm watching the news from Argentina, so they might be wrong. They say the gunman was Afghan and a Muslim, is there any connection to the IS yet or no?

No and I doubt there will be.


There was just a senator on CNN who said the Intelligence Committee has reason to believe he pledged allegiance to Daesh.
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Postby Krazakistan » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:10 am

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Krazakistan wrote:It totally had nothing to do with his Afghan immigrant parents and that it was during the month of Ramadan. All a coincidence. Avert your eyes goyim, nothing to see here.

Demonstrate that it isn't.

Pretty much every other time it's been found out that the shooter was Muslim it was an act of radicalization.

See: San Barnardino, Paris (both attacks), and Brussels.

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Krazakistan wrote:Already happened. Kind of. V-tech shooting was done with handguns.


I was more hoping for something that would shot that a semiautomatic rifle can indeed look like a "hunting rifle".

And the V tech thing only means that some places now also have definitions for "assault handguns".

It's stupid. Like in the San Barnardina attacks the news referred to the shooters clothing as "assault clothing"
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Postby Rodrania » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:10 am

Merizoc wrote:
Rodrania wrote:Jesus Christ, what the fuck. I'm watching the news from Argentina, so they might be wrong. They say the gunman was Afghan and a Muslim, is there any connection to the IS yet or no?

No and I doubt there will be.


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Postby Philjia » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:10 am

Clearly Islam has a problem with terrorism. The question is how we tackle it. I think we have to stop people becoming radicalised in the first place, which means we have to stop them making the jump from "these people are immoral" to "therefore I should kill them", which is probably going to involve talks with the imams. The difficulty then is we are going to have the state more or less interfering in religion, which is not going to go down well with the kind of people open to radicalisation.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:10 am

Has anyone seen who the injured officer was? Trying to figure out if I know him but I can't seem to find the name of the officer that was shot.
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Postby East Catalina » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:11 am

Holy fucking shit. Fifty dead? Gods above. Either he had a lot of targets crowded together (probably likely...) or something else was up. Hostage situation? Oh that explains it.
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Welcome to the Bible Belt.

Orlando's a bit to the south of that.
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Postby Rhyphix » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:11 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Rhyphix wrote:Get ready for Obama to once again say Islam is a religion of peace today.

I assume you were too young to remember, but a couple days after 9/11, Bush quoted the Qu'ran, declared Islam a religion of peace, and begged Americans not to paint Islam with the brush of what happened that day.

You know what people like you have done?
You've made me miss Bush.


No, not too young. I went off to enlist shortly thereafter.

I am a little curious to see whether people (particularly conservatives) chastise Muslims now that it's a gay bar.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:11 am

Rhyphix wrote:Get ready for Obama to once again say Islam is a religion of peace today.


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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:11 am

Galloism wrote:Has anyone seen who the injured officer was? Trying to figure out if I know him but I can't seem to find the name of the officer that was shot.


No idea, he's apparently fine beyond some injuries to the face though.
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Postby Skyviolia » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:12 am

Valystria wrote:Do you need the statistics again?



Chances are 9 out of 10 Muslims will believe homosexuality is immoral. Don't be surprised some of them may even decide to act violently against homosexuality when over half of the Muslims in a developed Western country such as the one this incident happened in want to ban homosexuality.


Your statistics on homosexuality in Islam are flawed for two reasons

1. The study doesn't take into account Muslims in western nations, who are considerably more liberal than those in muslim majority countries.

2. The study was taken three years ago, a lot has changed.

No, 50% of the muslim people in the western world do not want homosexuality banned.
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Postby Novorobo » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:12 am

I feel uncomfortable when seeing gay dudes kissing too.

Difference is, I get over it.
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Postby Rhyphix » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:12 am

Ohioan Territory wrote:
Rhyphix wrote:Get ready for Obama to once again say Islam is a religion of peace today.

And Islam is actually the victim here.


No the victims are 50 dead people and 53 wounded people.

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Postby Gauliscia » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:12 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Galloism wrote:Has anyone seen who the injured officer was? Trying to figure out if I know him but I can't seem to find the name of the officer that was shot.


No idea, he's apparently fine beyond some injuries to the face though.

These guys are really heroes, that are like, massively under-sung... :(
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Postby The Kievan People » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:13 am

Rodrania wrote:Jesus Christ, what the fuck. I'm watching the news from Argentina, so they might be wrong. They say the gunman was Afghan and a Muslim, is there any connection to the IS yet or no?


ISIS posted what is thought to be a picture of him on twitter and praised his actions.

They probably were not controlling him, but in all likelihood he was another ISIS wannabe.
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