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Postby Skyviolia » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:55 am

Holy shit this is awful. I hope the perpetrators face the cruelest form of justice.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:55 am

Ohioan Territory wrote:
Trumpostan wrote:Has that serial liar and bigot Trump tweeted about this already?

If Trump's a serial liar, what's that make Hillary?

Not a serial liar. Compare their pages on politifact.

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Postby Senkaku » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:55 am

Trumpostan wrote:Has that serial liar and bigot Trump tweeted about this already?

Thus far he's been restrained- there was a link earlier, he just said like "terrible shooting in Orlando, many dead." Remarkably level headed, but that should end soon enough.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:56 am

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Conserative Morality wrote:W. graduated from Yale IIRC. Education is no proof of competency.

There's a difference between competency and intelligence. I have no doubt GWB was a smart man.

.....

why?

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Postby Draica » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:56 am

I wonder what those who believe gay people go to hell have to say about this? They've been keeping a lid on it for quite awhile.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:56 am

Skyviolia wrote:Holy shit this is awful. I hope the perpetrators face the cruelest form of justice.

I mean.

He's dead.

Sooooooooo

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Postby Freefall11111 » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:56 am

Merizoc wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:There's a difference between competency and intelligence. I have no doubt GWB was a smart man.

.....

why?

You don't graduate from Yale by being a moron.

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:56 am

Skyviolia wrote:Holy shit this is awful. I hope the perpetrators face the cruelest form of justice.


He's already dead.
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Postby Unified Governments » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:56 am

Ohioan Territory wrote:
Trumpostan wrote:Has that serial liar and bigot Trump tweeted about this already?

If Trump's a serial liar, what's that make Hillary?

A woman who put our national security at risk.

But if you're a left winger than a strong and independent womyn who didn't do anything wrong.
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Postby Herskerstad » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:56 am

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Unified Governments wrote:A Muslim man with Afghan immigrant parents who shot up a gay night club on Ramadan. Gee, I'm sure there's no way this is related to Islamic extremism.

I'll wait for the actual investigation.

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CBS is all over it and Islamist ties. Alan Grayson seems to confirm the shooter identity.

I think we can safely conclude that an Islamist radical is the culprit in this crime.
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Postby Val Halla » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:56 am

Merizoc wrote:
Skyviolia wrote:Holy shit this is awful. I hope the perpetrators face the cruelest form of justice.

I mean.

He's dead.

Sooooooooo

Sentence the corpse to trail by fire
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Postby West Aurelia » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:57 am

Draica wrote:I wonder what those who believe gay people go to hell have to say about this? They've been keeping a lid on it for quite awhile.


That doesn't necessarily mean they advocate for the mass murder of gays.
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Postby Skyviolia » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:57 am

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Skyviolia wrote:Holy shit this is awful. I hope the perpetrators face the cruelest form of justice.


He's already dead.

I know, co-conspirators.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:57 am

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Imperializt Russia wrote:I don't recall seeing any evidence that mass surveillance actually made westerners, the west or anyone more secure from terrorism. France, for example, supposedly had surveillance programmes as strong as PRISM that continued long after we'd gotten bored of being angry over it, and that completely failed to pick up on the Paris attacks before they happened, or indeed either Brussels attack.

But think for every one that makes it through how many are stopped and never make it to the press, thankfully.

Not hearing about dozens of potential attacks and then getting one through the net is preferable to dozens of attacks.

And I'm not aware of any evidence that any of those "potential attacks" were stopped by mass surveillance, as opposed to existing powers, networks and measures that predate that.
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Postby Patridam » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:57 am

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The United Remnants of America wrote:The police giving a press briefing specifically said "a rifle," so I'd have to go with the AR-15 until further information reveals itself.


According to Orlando police, it was indeed an AR-15-style rifle.


For once, I wish one of these guns in mass shootings was a semiautomatic rifle, but with a full wood stock and no pistol grip or bayonet lug so people would understand that "gun looks scary" does not make a weapon more or less effective.
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Postby Unified Governments » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:57 am

Freefall11111 wrote:
Merizoc wrote:.....

why?

You don't graduate from Yale by being a moron.

Oooohhhhhh that's not necessarily true. Yale and other Ivy League schools shit out plenty of brain-dead, indoctrinated idiots.
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Postby Valystria » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:57 am

Draica wrote:Note, this was not an evangelical that did this, this was a Muslim who's father said that his son got "angry" at the sight of two men kissing.

This is sick, this is regressive and this is the first time I've cried over a mass shooting. Being gay myself, I cannot even imagine the heartache that the victims and their family are going through. We need to put aside politics, put aside this gun control nonsense and show love and compassion in the face of trial.

What I find regressive is that certain people used the incident as an opportunity to imply Christianity was at fault instead of waiting for the evidence to reveal it was a Muslim.

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:Hostage situations are never good if true, but a gay club is a kind of strange target.


Welcome to the Bible Belt.



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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Yep, his father claims it isn't a religious attack but it certainly looks that way.

Homophobia is not limited to the religious

Do you need the statistics again?



Chances are 9 out of 10 Muslims will believe homosexuality is immoral. Don't be surprised some of them may even decide to act violently against homosexuality when over half of the Muslims in a developed Western country such as the one this incident happened in want to ban homosexuality.



For the Islamophiles who immediately jumped in to shout BIBLE BELT, BIBLE BELT, that was an utterly erroneous and ill-informed assumption to be making. Statistically, a Christian in the U.S. may believe same-sex marriage shouldn't be legal. They aren't aiming to ban homosexuality like the majority of Muslims are. So no, it's not surprising that a violently homophobic religion such as Islam continuously ends up spawning hate crimes against LGBT people far more than any other religion can churn out such malice.

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Postby Freefall11111 » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:57 am

Skyviolia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
He's already dead.

I know, co-conspirators.

Who says there are any?

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:57 am

Herskerstad wrote:
Val Halla wrote:I'll wait for the actual investigation.


Generic comment generalising a group of over a billion people strikes again


CBS is all over it and Islamist ties. Alan Grayson seems to confirm the shooter identity.

I think we can safely conclude that an Islamist radical is the culprit in this crime.


Yep, the Intelligence Committee has reason to believe Daesh was connected in some way.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:58 am

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Stormopolis wrote:I don't understand how Orlando let alone Florida can even be considered part of the Bible Belt. Do you know what kind of shit goes on down there?

Gay shit?

Atlanta and Charlotte are in the Bible Belt, but they're pretty liberal.

The bible belt does not extend so far south. Gainsville is likely about as far south as the biblebelt goes.

Atlanta and Charlotte are both liberal and deeply religious due to the influence of African American Churches.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:58 am

Skyviolia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
He's already dead.

I know, co-conspirators.


Do we have any evidence there were any?
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Postby Skyviolia » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:58 am

Freefall11111 wrote:
Skyviolia wrote:I know, co-conspirators.

Who says there are any?

No one is, I'm just saying that if they are, I hope they face justice.
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Postby Krazakistan » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:59 am

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West Aurelia wrote:
According to Orlando police, it was indeed an AR-15-style rifle.


For once, I wish one of these guns in mass shootings was a semiautomatic rifle, but with a full wood stock and no pistol grip or bayonet lug so people would understand that "gun looks scary" does not make a weapon more or less effective.

Already happened. Kind of. V-tech shooting was done with handguns.
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Postby West Aurelia » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:59 am

Skyviolia wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:Who says there are any?

No one is, I'm just saying that if they are, I hope they face justice.


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Postby Luna Amore » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:59 am

A Czecherboard wrote:THE RELIGION OF PEACE

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You were warned for this exact same quote last week.

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