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Postby West Aurelia » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:46 am

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American Imperial State wrote:50 dead, 53 wounded. I'm surprised a homosexual night club didn't have armed security.

Reports saying he had an assault weapon and a pistol.

Though I have to question how he got an assault weapon past security.


He probably shot his way in.
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Esternial wrote:Ohh, great. Now it's going to become one of those threads.

An islam/homophobe/firearm regulations discussion sandwich.

I'm getting indigestion already.

Trump's going to get another boost in the polls.

We don't know enough details yet, plus there's multiple talking points for both sides. Unlike Paris, this is a lot murkier for either side to benefit off of.

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Transoxthraxia wrote:Then why isn't Hillary getting a similar boost?

Because Hillary is a sly operator with no charisma and few principles, not an idiot.
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Imperializt Russia wrote:Because this thread's garbage, my life is a mess anyway, and this event's pretty horrible.

I could go on.

Then perhaps it's time to take a break from NSG and relax.

To go on, there's honestly nothing else in my life that I occasionally can take pleasure in.
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:47 am

Very sad. My prayers go out to the victims and their families.
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Postby Unified Governments » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:47 am

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American Imperial State wrote:50 dead, 53 wounded. I'm surprised a homosexual night club didn't have armed security.

Reports saying he had an assault weapon and a pistol.

Though I have to question how he got an assault weapon past security.

I've read that there was one police officer there who engaged the Islamist scumbag before he took hostages.
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I don't understand how Orlando let alone Florida can even be considered part of the Bible Belt. Do you know what kind of shit goes on down there?
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Media all over here says a Omar Mir Seddique Mateen is the responsible party.
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Unified Governments wrote:Then perhaps it's time to take a break from NSG and relax.

To go on, there's honestly nothing else in my life that I occasionally can take pleasure in.

Well shit, m8. Sorry to hear that.
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Stormopolis wrote:I don't understand how Orlando let alone Florida can even be considered part of the Bible Belt. Do you know what kind of shit goes on down there?

The "bible belt" supposedly has the highest proportion of searches for gay and fetish porn, compared to more liberal states.
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Since I doubt that response was "I agree so much I have no words."

You might as well just say that Snowden raped your dog and get over it.

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Postby Val Halla » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:48 am

Stormopolis wrote:I don't understand how Orlando let alone Florida can even be considered part of the Bible Belt. Do you know what kind of shit goes on down there?

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Conserative Morality wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Then why isn't Hillary getting a similar boost?

Because Hillary is a sly operator with no charisma and few principles, not an idiot.

Only idiots graduate from Yale, duh.

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Postby Aufwachen » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:49 am

Stormopolis wrote:I don't understand how Orlando let alone Florida can even be considered part of the Bible Belt. Do you know what kind of shit goes on down there?


It truly isn't. It's just that left-wingers clump it with the rest of the Bible Belt to try and support their (failing) arguments on the topic.
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Stormopolis wrote:I don't understand how Orlando let alone Florida can even be considered part of the Bible Belt. Do you know what kind of shit goes on down there?


Enough with this Bible Belt nonsense already. It's irrelevant to the topic.
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Postby Krazakistan » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:49 am

greed and death wrote:
American Imperial State wrote:50 dead, 53 wounded. I'm surprised a homosexual night club didn't have armed security.

Reports saying he had an assault weapon and a pistol.

Though I have to question how he got an assault weapon past security.

'Assault weapon' is a very, very broad term and can cover anything from a semi-auto Mac-10 to an AR-15 with a 16'' barrel. Me thinks he hid an SBR underneath a coat or something to bring it in.

That is if he didn't shoot his way in which he probably did.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:49 am

Herskerstad wrote:Media all over here says a Omar Mir Seddique Mateen is the responsible party.


Yep, his father claims it isn't a religious attack but it certainly looks that way.
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Postby Ohioan Territory » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:49 am

Freefall11111 wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Because Hillary is a sly operator with no charisma and few principles, not an idiot.

Only idiots graduate from Yale, duh.

Trump came out of the Ivy League as well. Pennsylvania.
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Imperializt Russia wrote:You might as well just say that Snowden raped your dog and get over it.

Okay, so I may have over-emphasized. But the damage remains, not in documents, but in American psyche. It caused a backlash against the IC for the conception of an overreaching intelligence community, causing them to be forced to backpedal, leaving space for threats to form that get missed in the vacuum because a small and very public leak made some people uncomfortable.

I don't recall seeing any evidence that mass surveillance actually made westerners, the west or anyone more secure from terrorism. France, for example, supposedly had surveillance programmes as strong as PRISM that continued long after we'd gotten bored of being angry over it, and that completely failed to pick up on the Paris attacks before they happened, or indeed either Brussels attack.
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Postby Val Halla » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:49 am

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Herskerstad wrote:Media all over here says a Omar Mir Seddique Mateen is the responsible party.


Yep, his father claims it isn't a religious attack but it certainly looks that way.

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Freefall11111 wrote:Only idiots graduate from Yale, duh.

Trump came out of the Ivy League as well. Pennsylvania.

It's almost like politicians are, by and large, highly educated and smart even if you disagree with them. Shocking, truly.

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Postby Zepplien » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:50 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:Media all over here says a Omar Mir Seddique Mateen is the responsible party.


Yep, his father claims it isn't a religious attack but it certainly looks that way.

He could have just been homophobic, and a bit crazy
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Herskerstad wrote:Media all over here says a Omar Mir Seddique Mateen is the responsible party.


Yep, his father claims it isn't a religious attack but it certainly looks that way.

After that Stanford rape case, I don't think we should be listening to the fathers of criminals too often.
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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:50 am

Stormopolis wrote:I don't understand how Orlando let alone Florida can even be considered part of the Bible Belt. Do you know what kind of shit goes on down there?

Gay shit?

Atlanta and Charlotte are in the Bible Belt, but they're pretty liberal.

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