Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:03 pm
Korva wrote:It worked with the Nazis, Imperial Japan, and many more!
Yes it did.
Because sometimes even national leaders just want to hang out
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Conserative Morality wrote:
I'm not a fan of giving our enemies propaganda to create a narrative of a clash of civilizations, no. I'm an advocate of intensifying the proxy war and backing up our Middle-Eastern allies.
Patridam wrote:The Joseon Dynasty wrote:British policies seem sensible to me. Ban the unnecessary ones (like handguns and assault rifles) and regulate the ones that have uses in sport, hunting and farming.
Assault rifles are already banned in the USA.
Handguns are vital for any sort of self defence purposes, and have use in sport and hunting.
Tigeria wrote:This is obviously a hate crime, why else would someone attack a gay club?
Zeinbrad wrote:
He's not talking about that.
He's talking about how the invasion of Iraq, and Afghan, but mostly Iraq, contributed to the rise ISIS and other such groups.
Looking 'tough' doesn't help you when it only makes a problem worse.
Tigeria wrote:This is obviously a hate crime, why else would someone attack a gay club?
Major-Tom wrote:Zeinbrad wrote:Iraq and Afghan War.
When in doubt, use that argument. Yes, I'm advocating a full scale military war against ISIS that will take a decade. We toppled the Hussein government relatively quickly, and while the Iraq war was a mistake, we do have to admit that we could've further stabilized Iraq.
But, nah, just keep yelling "IRAQ!"
Camicon wrote:Right so, you're an ableist, a racist, and an Islamaphobe.
Thermodolia wrote:Unified Governments wrote:Those aren't conservatives. Those are extremists.
And if you think they're one in the same then I, as a conservative, will happily tell you you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
I would agree with you that they are extremists, except for the fact that it was Rev. Graham's daughter who said that.
Ganos Lao wrote:Conserative Morality wrote:I'm not a fan of giving our enemies propaganda to create a narrative of a clash of civilizations, no. I'm an advocate of intensifying the proxy war and backing up our Middle-Eastern allies.
How about we solve the Saudi problem already? ISIS is nothing compared to so called ally Riyadh. Kill ISIS all you want, but the ideas are bulletproof.
Camicon wrote:Mega City 5 wrote:
Lots of people who 1. are not crazy, 2. are white and 3. are not Muslims have guns and somehow manage not to commit violent crimes with them.
The problem's not guns. The problem's crazy people, racial minorities and Muslims.
Right so, you're an ableist, a racist, and an Islamaphobe.
Conserative Morality wrote:
I'm not a fan of giving our enemies propaganda to create a narrative of a clash of civilizations, no. I'm an advocate of intensifying the proxy war and backing up our Middle-Eastern allies.
Major-Tom wrote:Zeinbrad wrote:Iraq and Afghan War.
When in doubt, use that argument. Yes, I'm advocating a full scale military war against ISIS that will take a decade. We toppled the Hussein government relatively quickly, and while the Iraq war was a mistake, we do have to admit that we could've further stabilized Iraq.
But, nah, just keep yelling "IRAQ!"
Chrinthanium wrote:You don't defeat hate by spouting hate. You don't blame everyone who claims to be a Muslim for everything the radicals do in the same way Christians refuse to be branded by the Fred Phelps of the world. Reading this thread makes me sad to be part of NS today. Really. People are dead, others are hurt, families are torn apart. That's what we should be focusing on right now. Let the politics and the hate rest for another day.
Unified Governments wrote:Zeinbrad wrote:He's not talking about that.
He's talking about how the invasion of Iraq, and Afghan, but mostly Iraq, contributed to the rise ISIS and other such groups.
Looking 'tough' doesn't help you when it only makes a problem worse.
We helped create them, yes. And now it's time to obliterate them. Bomb them. Send troops in if necessary. But they can't be allowed to exist.