Gay Nightclub Attacked in Orlando, FL

[Greed and Death]

This is horrible.

That's all I can say.

Unfortunately, a real and actual office holder in the United States thought it was appropriate to point out that no, in fact he does support doing those things in gay clubs:

Wow. Just wow.

Worth pointing out that was not in response to the shooting and just the normal Lt. Governor's normal Sunday bible verse post.

[East Catalina]

This is horrible.

That's all I can say.




Wow. Just wow.

Again, isn't it possible he was referring to the shooter who was killed by police?

Do not be deceived; God cannot be mocked; a man reaps what he sows
can be read as
"don't be deceived into thinking ebil fag life is good, that is mocking GLORIOSUS DEUS; and for it you shall all die one way or another DEUS VULT"
I assume?
- I do not endorse the statement in the quotes and don't mean to insult anyone by posting it.

[Camicon]

Encouraging them is standing by every time a terrorist attack happens and saying "we stand united, we stand united against bigotry, against hatred....."

No, fuck that, okay, fuck that. At this point, we need action, even if it means radical anti terrorism action abroad. Bomb ISIS strongholds, drone strike their strongholds, arm the Kurds and not the Syrian rebels, help Russia with tactical airstrikes against ISIS.

What, you think if we get mad ISIS will somehow get more powerful? Do you think that if we sing kumbaya they will somehow dissipate like the Wicked Witch of the West when exposed to water? No, respond to force with equal or more powerful force.

Yeah, sure, let's intensify the same strategy of the past ten years that's caused a spike in radical Islam inspired attacks on the West.

Because bombing the homes of people that are attacking the US for bombing their homes is sure to solve the problem!

[Mega City 5]

Iraq for example?

Iraq doesn't prove that bombing doesn't work. It only proves the US didn't drop enough bombs.

[Outer Sparta]

Yeah, that mantle was taken up by, and I must emphasize again, real and actual candidate for President of the United States, Donald Trump:

Wow, he said that he appreciated that people saw that he was right on several things, he must be HITLER!!!

So, does he condemn these attacks? I'm not sure by that statement.

[Unified Governments]

Encouraging them is standing by every time a terrorist attack happens and saying "we stand united, we stand united against bigotry, against hatred....."

No, fuck that, okay, fuck that. At this point, we need action, even if it means radical anti terrorism action abroad. Bomb ISIS strongholds, drone strike their strongholds, arm the Kurds and not the Syrian rebels, help Russia with tactical airstrikes against ISIS.

What, you think if we get mad ISIS will somehow get more powerful? Do you think that if we sing kumbaya they will somehow dissipate like the Wicked Witch of the West when exposed to water? No, respond to force with equal or more powerful force.

Yeah, sure, let's intensify the same strategy of the past ten years that's caused a spike in radical Islam inspired attacks on the West.

"We can't bomb ISIS because people might be angry at us"

wew lad

[Zeinbrad]

ISIS plays up its influence precisely in order to gain more influence. Don't encourage them.

Encouraging them is standing by every time a terrorist attack happens and saying "we stand united, we stand united against bigotry, against hatred....."

No, fuck that, okay, fuck that. At this point, we need action, even if it means radical anti terrorism action abroad. Bomb ISIS strongholds, drone strike their strongholds, arm the Kurds and not the Syrian rebels, help Russia with tactical airstrikes against ISIS.

What, you think if we get mad ISIS will somehow get more powerful? Do you think that if we sing kumbaya they will somehow dissipate like the Wicked Witch of the West when exposed to water? No, respond to force with equal or more powerful force.

Iraq and Afghan War.

[Major-Tom]

If I keep saying Moderate Islam, then I can dispel legitimate concerns about Islam. If I keep saying Moderate Islam, then I can dispel legitimate concerns about Islam. If I keep calling people bigots, then I can dispel legitimate concerns about Islam.

That's become like half of this thread, you know who you are, guys.

If I keep bringing up legitimate concerns about radical Islam, I can continue to justify taking out my frustrations on uninvolved Muslims who play no role in terrorism like my own personal human dartboards. If I keep bringing up legitimate concerns about radical Islam, I can continue to justify taking out my frustrations on uninvolved Muslims who play no role in terrorism like my own personal human dartboards. If I keep pointing out that terrorism exists, I can continue to justify taking out my frustrations on uninvolved Muslims who play no role in terrorism like my own personal human dartboards.

People are not fucking stupid. Nobody thinks that Islam is without flaw or that its radicals are not a danger. We just realize that we can work on trying to fight terrorism and dismantle the dangers that Islam is serving without ganging up on and circle-punching non-terrorist Muslims as an outlet for our fear and anger in the meantime.

Oh, I recognize that there are many uninvolved Muslims who are perfectly good people. Many are probably outraged. But if we focus on them, and not on Radical Islam, and not on the fact that many(not most) Muslims are radical fundamentalists(when compared to Christians), we see that there is an issue.

The issue, mind you, is bigger in Europe in regards to integration, but we certainly need to work hard here to prevent further terrorist attacks here. I have no qualms with limiting the number of refugees from Syria and Iraq, as well as immigrants from other Muslim countries. We need more screening, more background checks, etc etc.

So, no, I'm not circle punching non terrorist Muslims, I'm just sick and tired of people crying Islamophobe like the boy who cried wolf.

[Eisarn-Ara]

September 11 was of course a famous mass killing made possible by lack of effective gun control.

Air Marshals are the tits man, love those guys.

[Gauthier]

This is horrible.

That's all I can say.




Wow. Just wow.

Worth pointing out that was not in response to the shooting and just the normal Lt. Governor's normal Sunday bible verse post.

Which was why it was taken down. *nod*

[San Lumen]

Yeah, that mantle was taken up by, and I must emphasize again, real and actual candidate for President of the United States, Donald Trump:

Wow, he said that he appreciated that people saw that he was right on several things, he must be HITLER!!!

With statements like these he just confirms how unfit he is to be President and comments like these will backfire.

[Outer Sparta]

Iraq for example?

Iraq doesn't prove that bombing doesn't work. It only proves the US didn't drop enough bombs.

Which would've killed more civilians in a stable country? No thanks.

[Korva]

Yeah, sure, let's intensify the same strategy of the past ten years that's caused a spike in radical Islam inspired attacks on the West.

Because bombing the homes of people that are attacking the US for bombing their homes is sure to solve the problem!

It worked with the Nazis, Imperial Japan, and many more!

[Maurepas]

This is horrible.

That's all I can say.




Wow. Just wow.

Worth pointing out that was not in response to the shooting and just the normal Lt. Governor's normal Sunday bible verse post.

I think he probably could've chosen a better one.

[Camicon]

It was kind of a duo.

Lots of people who 1. are not crazy, 2. are white and 3. are not Muslims have guns and somehow manage not to commit violent crimes with them.

The problem's not guns. The problem's crazy people, racial minorities and Muslims.

Right so, you're an ableist, a racist, and an Islamaphobe.

[Major-Tom]

Encouraging them is standing by every time a terrorist attack happens and saying "we stand united, we stand united against bigotry, against hatred....."

No, fuck that, okay, fuck that. At this point, we need action, even if it means radical anti terrorism action abroad. Bomb ISIS strongholds, drone strike their strongholds, arm the Kurds and not the Syrian rebels, help Russia with tactical airstrikes against ISIS.

What, you think if we get mad ISIS will somehow get more powerful? Do you think that if we sing kumbaya they will somehow dissipate like the Wicked Witch of the West when exposed to water? No, respond to force with equal or more powerful force.

Iraq and Afghan War.

When in doubt, use that argument. Yes, I'm advocating a full scale military war against ISIS that will take a decade. We toppled the Hussein government relatively quickly, and while the Iraq war was a mistake, we do have to admit that we could've further stabilized Iraq.

But, nah, just keep yelling "IRAQ!"

[Zeinbrad]

Yeah, sure, let's intensify the same strategy of the past ten years that's caused a spike in radical Islam inspired attacks on the West.

"We can't bomb ISIS because people might be angry at us"

wew lad

He's not talking about that.

He's talking about how the invasion of Iraq, and Afghan, but mostly Iraq, contributed to the rise ISIS and other such groups.

Looking 'tough' doesn't help you when it only makes a problem worse.

[Outer Sparta]

Wow, he said that he appreciated that people saw that he was right on several things, he must be HITLER!!!

With statements like these he just confirms how unfit he is to be President and comments like these will backfire.

*cough cough*foreign policy

[The balkens]

Lots of people who 1. are not crazy, 2. are white and 3. are not Muslims have guns and somehow manage not to commit violent crimes with them.

The problem's not guns. The problem's crazy people, racial minorities and Muslims.

Right so, you're an ableist, a racist, and an Islamaphobe.

1st one is debatable.

[Conserative Morality]

"We can't bomb ISIS because people might be angry at us"

wew lad

I'm not a fan of giving our enemies propaganda to create a narrative of a clash of civilizations, no. I'm an advocate of intensifying the proxy war and backing up our Middle-Eastern allies.

[Thermodolia]

I don't why someone would. But there have been die-hard conservatives who have said that 9/11 was God punishing us for being nice to the LGBT community

Those aren't conservatives. Those are extremists.

And if you think they're one in the same then I, as a conservative, will happily tell you you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

I would agree with you that they are extremists, except for the fact that it was Rev. Graham's daughter who said that.

[Ganos Lao]

This is horrible.

That's all I can say.

Unfortunately, a real and actual office holder in the United States thought it was appropriate to point out that no, in fact he does support doing those things in gay clubs:

Wow. Just wow.

By Dan Patrick's logic, one could go and say that America sowed the seeds for terrorist attacks, thus they're simply reaping what they sow. But I'm sure Dan Patrick wouldn't like his logic turned on him like that, of course.

At any rate, I called it months ago, weeks even. Another Breivik situation was going to happen. Condolences to those who lost loved ones and all, but honestly this isn't surprising. I'm just expecting more "ISIS inspired" attacks to happen as ISIS declines. You just watch, though, that despite the targets being GLBT people that the militant Islamophobes, the ones willing to use violence to make their points, will try to nevertheless "avenge Orlando."

[United Marxist Nations]

You and I both know that won't happen.

If anything he'll be in contention for Governor now.

As I said earlier, gonna need some actual statistics on how many people in the South actually support the physical extermination of LGBT persons, because, otherwise, posts like this really have no basis for reality.

[Major-Tom]

Yeah, sure, let's intensify the same strategy of the past ten years that's caused a spike in radical Islam inspired attacks on the West.

"We can't bomb ISIS because people might be angry at us"

wew lad

Really.

"But, we can't anger them."

Please, they're already pissed, we need to fight back.

[Salus Maior]

It's Florida, what do you expect? Everyone's batshit crazy there.

I don't expect shit like this.

Note that I wrote this before i found out what the death count was, in fact I didn't know that anyone died.

At this point all I can say is that this is just a sad and tragic event.