Gay Nightclub Attacked in Orlando, FL

[Eisarn-Ara]

Honestly, this whole things comes down to a Filthy Heathen like me eating popcorn and hedging bets on someone shouting DEUS VULT! and dealing with this bullshit finally.

Does that mean genocide?

You silly goober; that means aggressive conquest, cultural nullification and linguistic destruction. There will still be 'people' in the middle east, just none of them speaking the various Islam-friendly Aramaic descended dialects or partaking in the equivalent cultural structures that housed those languages.

[Thermodolia]

Isn't it possible he was referring to the shooter who was killed by police?

He deleted it so who knows. They are claiming it was an automated setup.

Right, automated my ass!

[Xadufell]

And within the last 6 months two Transgenders have been killed by these "Christians".

It was much worse last year. But yeah, they're no friend of the LGBT population.

Certainly. It's why I'm in favor of hard standards on handgun ownership.

I'm in favor of few restrictions on rifles and a heavy on handguns since one can carry many more handguns.

So a weaker firearm with a weaker cartridge and a lower capacity feed are more deserving of a ban than a firearm with a higher capacity feed and more powerful cartridges just because they can carry more? Jesus Christ that is the most ridiculous argument I've heard in a long time.

[Mega City 5]

Why? This idea to bomb those countries won't work at all.

Why wouldn't it work?

[Patridam]

Certainly. It's why I'm in favor of hard standards on handgun ownership.

British policies seem sensible to me. Ban the unnecessary ones (like handguns and assault rifles) and regulate the ones that have uses in sport, hunting and farming.

Assault rifles are already banned in the USA.

Handguns are vital for any sort of self defence purposes, and have use in sport and hunting.

[Major-Tom]

For the love of god Gauthier, ISIS was behind a plethora, a myriad of terrorist attacks. Does it seem so far fetched that Omar Mateen, someone who pledged allegiance to ISIS, might have planned this for a while, maybe during Ramadan?

Still makes him a fanboy they want to take credit for just like the San Bernardino couple.

This is the deadliest US attack in fifteen years, who even cares if it's a fanboy at this point? What matters is that 50 men and women are dead, 53 are injured, and that the perpetrator carried out the attack in the name of Islam.

But its easier to just be snarky about the situation.

[Camicon]

Isn't it possible he was referring to the shooter who was killed by police?

He deleted it so who knows. They are claiming it was an automated setup.

Would've been easier and smarter for them to claim that he was referring to the shooter.

[Maurepas]

Unfortunately, a real and actual office holder in the United States thought it was appropriate to point out that no, in fact he does support doing those things in gay clubs:

At least he wasn't disingenuously crying outrage over LGBTs being victimized by Those Ebil Moozlemz, that much I'll give him.

Yeah, that mantle was taken up by, and I must emphasize again, real and actual candidate for President of the United States, Donald Trump:

[Gauthier]

If he's referring to the LGBT community, he should resign immediately.

You and I both know that won't happen.

If anything he'll be in contention for Governor now.

[Unified Governments]

This is horrible.

That's all I can say.

Unfortunately, a real and actual office holder in the United States thought it was appropriate to point out that no, in fact he does support doing those things in gay clubs:

Wow. Just wow.

Again, isn't it possible he was referring to the shooter who was killed by police?

[The Joseon Dynasty]

No.

I completely agree with this.

It's just silly for liberals to talk about gun control at this like this (and shame on them, for the record, for using a tragedy to push their own political agendas).

A gun didn't kill a bunch of people in a night club.

A muslim did.

It was kind of a duo.

[Conserative Morality]

British policies seem sensible to me. Ban the unnecessary ones (like handguns and assault rifles) and regulate the ones that have uses in sport, hunting and farming.

Honestly, on non-semi long guns I'm a proponent of basically no restrictions, and only background checks on semi-auto long guns. Owning a firearm is very... American. I know several firearms enthusiasts (including one with a kickass cap-and-ball revolver and a fuckin' muzzle loader along with his AR-15) and I'd never want to take that important part of semirural culture away from them.

[Giovenith]

If I keep saying Moderate Islam, then I can dispel legitimate concerns about Islam. If I keep saying Moderate Islam, then I can dispel legitimate concerns about Islam. If I keep calling people bigots, then I can dispel legitimate concerns about Islam.

That's become like half of this thread, you know who you are, guys.

If I keep bringing up legitimate concerns about radical Islam, I can continue to justify taking out my frustrations on uninvolved Muslims who play no role in terrorism like my own personal human dartboards. If I keep bringing up legitimate concerns about radical Islam, I can continue to justify taking out my frustrations on uninvolved Muslims who play no role in terrorism like my own personal human dartboards. If I keep pointing out that terrorism exists, I can continue to justify taking out my frustrations on uninvolved Muslims who play no role in terrorism like my own personal human dartboards.

People are not fucking stupid. Nobody thinks that Islam is without flaw or that its radicals are not a danger. We just realize that we can work on trying to fight terrorism and dismantle the dangers that Islam is serving without ganging up on and circle-punching non-terrorist Muslims as an outlet for our fear and anger in the meantime.

[Major-Tom]

At least he wasn't disingenuously crying outrage over LGBTs being victimized by Those Ebil Moozlemz, that much I'll give him.

Yeah, that mantle was taken up by, and I must emphasize again, real and actual candidate for President of the United States, Donald Trump:

So? He credits himself for being correct on the issue of Islamic terrorism. I'm no Trump supporter, but you have to give credit where it's due, he's the guy sounding alarms right now.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

But its easier to just be snarky about the situation.

I don't know who you think you're talking to right now lol.

[Luminesa]

You know what we're tired of? This man's pure utter lack of class and compassion.

You call it lack of class and compassion. I call it an unfiltered and uncensored willingness to see things for what they are.

He's using this tragedy to pump his campaign.

Tragedies like this are what his campaign is based on. Fact is, America has tons of problems because of Mexicans, because of Muslims, because of brown people, etc.

And while the liberals want to have a massive hug fest and hand-wave the problem away, Trump wants to take action and fix things.

That's why I'm voting for him.

There is a way to handle such cases like this. Cases that require thoughtfulness and careful consideration. But no, he goes on the Internet and goes, "Haha, you see? I told you so! You should vote for me!" Like an annoying, spoiled little 12-year-old boy who has nothing better to do with his time.

And claiming entire races of people are evil will not make any of this go away, either.

Something here is that doesn't love a wall.

[Thermodolia]

That could be possible but Dan Patick does have a history of not so nice comments about the LGBT community.

Sure, but why would he celebrate a terror attacks? If he's a die-hard conservative then he's no fan of ISIS.

I don't why someone would. But there have been die-hard conservatives who have said that 9/11 was God punishing us for being nice to the LGBT community

[Unified Governments]

At least he wasn't disingenuously crying outrage over LGBTs being victimized by Those Ebil Moozlemz, that much I'll give him.

Yeah, that mantle was taken up by, and I must emphasize again, real and actual candidate for President of the United States, Donald Trump:

Welp, at least he's saying he doesn't want congrats.

Even I, as a Republican, have a hard time imagining this guy as president.

And yet he's memeing his way to the White House.

[Xadufell]

At least he wasn't disingenuously crying outrage over LGBTs being victimized by Those Ebil Moozlemz, that much I'll give him.

Yeah, that mantle was taken up by, and I must emphasize again, real and actual candidate for President of the United States, Donald Trump:

Wow, he said that he appreciated that people saw that he was right on several things, he must be HITLER!!!

[Korva]

Yes, that is why gun crime in the UK increased in the early two-thousands. Trying to restrict firearm access might bring crime down in the long run after the initial spike that's seen in every heavily gun-controlled nation thus-far, but it's not going to stop mass shootings as Charles Whitman has already shown. Mass shootings are cultural anomalies primarily contained to the US.

In the early 2000s, there was a major gun smuggling operation ongoing, as well as guns "walked off" as a direct result of the 1997 handgun ban. In this period, some soldiers were happily walking small arms off bases for cash too, and presumably some gear drifted from Norn Iron after the Good Friday Agreement cooled tensions there and militias started standing down.

These were eventually stamped out, though their effect, through the guns they already put into the system, lingers.

Mass killings by Islamists happen in the U.S. more frequently than in other nations?

If you're going to leave it as hilariously unqualified as that to try make a snide point, then yes. Thank September 11 for that.

September 11 was of course a famous mass killing made possible by lack of effective gun control.

[Conserative Morality]

Encouraging them is standing by every time a terrorist attack happens and saying "we stand united, we stand united against bigotry, against hatred....."

No, fuck that, okay, fuck that. At this point, we need action, even if it means radical anti terrorism action abroad. Bomb ISIS strongholds, drone strike their strongholds, arm the Kurds and not the Syrian rebels, help Russia with tactical airstrikes against ISIS.

What, you think if we get mad ISIS will somehow get more powerful? Do you think that if we sing kumbaya they will somehow dissipate like the Wicked Witch of the West when exposed to water? No, respond to force with equal or more powerful force.

Yeah, sure, let's intensify the same strategy of the past ten years that's caused a spike in radical Islam inspired attacks on the West.

[Outer Sparta]

Why? This idea to bomb those countries won't work at all.

Why wouldn't it work?

Iraq for example? Plus, would you really support killing 289 million civilans from those countries you mentioned? In this context, it could easily be perceived wrongly.

[Mega City 5]

It was kind of a duo.

Lots of people who 1. are not crazy, 2. are white and 3. are not Muslims have guns and somehow manage not to commit violent crimes with them.

The problem's not guns. The problem's crazy people, racial minorities and Muslims.

[Unified Governments]

Sure, but why would he celebrate a terror attacks? If he's a die-hard conservative then he's no fan of ISIS.

I don't why someone would. But there have been die-hard conservatives who have said that 9/11 was God punishing us for being nice to the LGBT community

Those aren't conservatives. Those are extremists.

And if you think they're one in the same then I, as a conservative, will happily tell you you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[Thermodolia]

Why? This idea to bomb those countries won't work at all.

Why wouldn't it work?

It would create more terrorists that would come blow up the United States