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Gay Nightclub Attacked in Orlando, FL

Postby Costa Fierro » Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:39 am

Gunfire erupted at a nightclub in Orlando early Sunday, with multiple injuries reported, Florida authorities said.

"Everyone get out of Pulse and keep running," the club posted on its Facebook page.

Orlando police warned residents to stay away from the area, and urged people not to call their offices.

"Official updates will come from this Twitter account," they posted. "No email or phone calls please."

Pulse describes itself as "the hottest gay bar" in the heart of Orlando.

Hours before the shooting, the club urged partygoers to attend its "Latin flavor" night Saturday.


Obviously this is a developing story. According to witnesses, there is possibly more than one assailant with semi-automatic firearms as well as a possible hostage situation. A number of people have been injured.

At this stage, no one has been killed but it could be likely that there might be multiple fatalities if the hostage reports prove true.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:43 am

Hostage situations are never good if true, but a gay club is a kind of strange target.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:43 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Hostage situations are never good if true, but a gay club is a kind of strange target.


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Postby Costa Fierro » Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:45 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Hostage situations are never good if true, but a gay club is a kind of strange target.


Not really, especially if someone has got a bone to pick with the LGBT community.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:47 am

Vassenor wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Hostage situations are never good if true, but a gay club is a kind of strange target.


Welcome to the Bible Belt.


I guess yeah, that's kinda what my first thought was. Hopefully it all ends well and nobody has to die over some stupid shit.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:47 am

Vassenor wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Hostage situations are never good if true, but a gay club is a kind of strange target.


Welcome to the Bible Belt.


Clearly the gunmen were all SJWs. *nod*
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Postby Chkalovsk » Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:48 am

Removing the scum of society, one heretic at a time.

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On a serious note though, hopefully everything can be resolved without any bloodshed.
Although. This is America... so the SWAT is probably going to go in all guns blazing.
And damn, I thought Florida was supposed to be modest state (never knew it was bible belt).
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Postby The Enclave Government » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:08 am

Chkalovsk wrote:Removing the scum of society, one heretic at a time.

(/sarcasm)

On a serious note though, hopefully everything can be resolved without any bloodshed.
Although. This is America... so the SWAT is probably going to go in all guns blazing.
And damn, I thought Florida was supposed to be modest state (never knew it was bible belt).

Florida? Modest? We're the crazy raving loony toon immigrant filled drugged up zombie state.

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Anyway, got ninja'd. BBC has an article here.

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Grinstead wrote:IT'S HAPPENING


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Postby Minzerland » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:34 am

Vassenor wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Hostage situations are never good if true, but a gay club is a kind of strange target.


Welcome to the Bible Belt.


Welcome to the Q'uran Belt. ;)

On a serious note, do we know if they were Christian? Let's not jump to conclusions. I mean, people jumped to the conclusion on the San Bernado on Twitter; they were 'white and Christian' they said. They were wrong.
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Postby Arkiasis » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:34 am

Wtf Orlando. I thought you were all fun and Disneyland. Get your shit together.
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This is bad.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:37 am

Donut section wrote:This is bad.

Ditto, hope people dont die and more dont get seriously injured.
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Postby Risottia » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:38 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Hostage situations are never good if true, but a gay club is a kind of strange target.

Considering the amount of groups with anti-gay agendas? No, not that strange.
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Postby Sleumania » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:15 am

Florida Police just confirmed that the attacker is dead. It's a shame that he did get killed, honestly and a sign of how police these days believe they're perfectly entitled to shoot anyone without trial but considering the "mass casualty situation" they confirmed, I'm honestly not as upset as I might otherwise have been because that guy should definitely have faced trial for his despicable actions.
(Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/36510272)

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Postby Annorax » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:24 am

Sleumania wrote:Florida Police just confirmed that the attacker is dead. It's a shame that he did get killed, honestly and a sign of how police these days believe they're perfectly entitled to shoot anyone without trial but considering the "mass casualty situation" they confirmed, I'm honestly not as upset as I might otherwise have been because that guy should definitely have faced trial for his despicable actions.
(Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/36510272)

What a sad waste of life but I am glad the attacker is dead. I've tried to find out more about it because I only learned about this from a BBC app on my phone. There are not a lot of specific details yet, probably because it is 0630 on the east coast right now.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:24 am

Sleumania wrote:Florida Police just confirmed that the attacker is dead. It's a shame that he did get killed, honestly and a sign of how police these days believe they're perfectly entitled to shoot anyone without trial but considering the "mass casualty situation" they confirmed, I'm honestly not as upset as I might otherwise have been because that guy should definitely have faced trial for his despicable actions.
(Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/36510272)


They're entitled to shoot them if the person still poses an imminent threat to their safety or the safety of others. From the various reports I've seen, this may have well been the case, so let's not be too quick to chalk this up to some sort of trigger-happy response on the part of the responding officers.

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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:31 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Sleumania wrote:Florida Police just confirmed that the attacker is dead. It's a shame that he did get killed, honestly and a sign of how police these days believe they're perfectly entitled to shoot anyone without trial but considering the "mass casualty situation" they confirmed, I'm honestly not as upset as I might otherwise have been because that guy should definitely have faced trial for his despicable actions.
(Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/36510272)


They're entitled to shoot them if the person still poses an imminent threat to their safety or the safety of others. From the various reports I've seen, this may have well been the case, so let's not be too quick to chalk this up to some sort of trigger-happy response on the part of the responding officers.

Precisely. Unless he had put the weapon down, the police in a situation would be justified in taking him or her down.

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Postby Frank Zipper » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:33 am

So in the end was it a single attacker?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:34 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Hostage situations are never good if true, but a gay club is a kind of strange target.


Not really, especially if someone has got a bone to pick with the LGBT community.

That's not the same, that's a rationalisation. They have been attacked in the past.
A gay bar is a strange target for a hostage taking because, when was the last time that happened?
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Postby UnjustlyBannedLlamas » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:34 am

Glad they got the guy. Too bad he's dead though. That'll make it hard to ascertain motive.
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Postby Herskerstad » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:36 am

Sleumania wrote:Florida Police just confirmed that the attacker is dead. It's a shame that he did get killed, honestly and a sign of how police these days believe they're perfectly entitled to shoot anyone without trial but considering the "mass casualty situation" they confirmed, I'm honestly not as upset as I might otherwise have been because that guy should definitely have faced trial for his despicable actions.
(Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/36510272)


Given that there are casualties it points to the threat being real, and your initial impulse is to blame the police for handling with force what may very easily be a reasonable use of it?

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Postby Minzerland » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:38 am

UnjustlyBannedLlamas wrote:Glad they got the guy. To bad he's dead though. That'll make it hard to ascertain motive.


Not necessarily, if they can identify him, they can question his relatives, search his home etc. and can narrow it down to the most likely motive.
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Where were the law-abiding citizens with guns?

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