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Postby United Isles of the Commonwealth » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:58 am

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Annorax wrote:I find this all quite amusing.

The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy though.

OK, yeah, but we can get behind this one issue, right? We can get back to fighting later, right?


That is why Donald Trump has said to Bernie supporters "we welcome you with you open arms". Granted, you may hate both, but he will probably be less useless than Hillary. Marginally.Oh, but we can still fight each other later, rest assured
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Postby Annorax » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:01 am

Labor Syndicates wrote:
Annorax wrote:I find this all quite amusing.

The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy though.

OK, yeah, but we can get behind this one issue, right? We can get back to fighting later, right?



Yes yes. If you are looking for me to support Hillary you will have to look elsewhere. She is as corrupt as the day is long, an enabler of her lothario husband, and has a multitude of scandals that follow her like flies to poop. She is a better Nixon than Nixon ever was.

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Postby United Isles of the Commonwealth » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:04 am

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Labor Syndicates wrote:OK, yeah, but we can get behind this one issue, right? We can get back to fighting later, right?



Yes yes. If you are looking for me to support Hillary you will have to look elsewhere. She is as corrupt as the day is long, an enabler of her lothario husband, and has a multitude of scandals that follow her like flies to poop. She is a better Nixon than Nixon ever was.


Richard Nixon's associates cut about 6 minutes of tape and a few files. He resigned from his presidency. Hillary Clinton hid 30,000 emails, threatening National Security, and is under FBI investigation. She is the Democrats nominee
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Postby Labor Syndicates » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:07 am

United Isles of the Commonwealth wrote:
Labor Syndicates wrote:OK, yeah, but we can get behind this one issue, right? We can get back to fighting later, right?


That is why Donald Trump has said to Bernie supporters "we welcome you with you open arms". Granted, you may hate both, but he will probably be less useless than Hillary. Marginally.Oh, but we can still fight each other later, rest assured


Haha, no. I hate Hillary, but I really hate Trump. And Sanders, I'm sort of "eeeeeeeh, could use a little work." Such is life as a socialist in America.
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Postby Annorax » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:07 am

United Isles of the Commonwealth wrote:
Annorax wrote:

Yes yes. If you are looking for me to support Hillary you will have to look elsewhere. She is as corrupt as the day is long, an enabler of her lothario husband, and has a multitude of scandals that follow her like flies to poop. She is a better Nixon than Nixon ever was.


Richard Nixon's associates cut about 6 minutes of tape and a few files. He resigned from his presidency. Hillary Clinton hid 30,000 emails, threatening National Security, and is under FBI investigation. She is the Democrats nominee

Nixon at least had the honor to step down when he got busted she thinks its her divine right to rule or something. Don't even get me started about how she treats the people that work for her or are supposed to protect her.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:09 am

United Isles of the Commonwealth wrote:
Annorax wrote:

Yes yes. If you are looking for me to support Hillary you will have to look elsewhere. She is as corrupt as the day is long, an enabler of her lothario husband, and has a multitude of scandals that follow her like flies to poop. She is a better Nixon than Nixon ever was.


Richard Nixon's associates cut about 6 minutes of tape and a few files. He resigned from his presidency. Hillary Clinton hid 30,000 emails, threatening National Security, and is under FBI investigation. She is the Democrats nominee


Oh here we go with the emails thing again. Didn't the Republicans basically admit they were blowing that out of proportion purely to try and torpedo her?
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Postby Arana » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:12 am

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United Isles of the Commonwealth wrote:
Richard Nixon's associates cut about 6 minutes of tape and a few files. He resigned from his presidency. Hillary Clinton hid 30,000 emails, threatening National Security, and is under FBI investigation. She is the Democrats nominee


Oh here we go with the emails thing again. Didn't the Republicans basically admit they were blowing that out of proportion purely to try and torpedo her?

They found a shit ton on a Republican general's girlfriend's laptop, and the two secretaries of state before her did the same thing.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:13 am

Vassenor wrote:
United Isles of the Commonwealth wrote:
Richard Nixon's associates cut about 6 minutes of tape and a few files. He resigned from his presidency. Hillary Clinton hid 30,000 emails, threatening National Security, and is under FBI investigation. She is the Democrats nominee


Oh here we go with the emails thing again. Didn't the Republicans basically admit they were blowing that out of proportion purely to try and torpedo her?


She's under a criminal investigation by the FBI and it has already been proven she did indeed send classified material from her server despite saying otherwise. Sadly for her it isn't a vast right wing conspiracy.
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Postby United Isles of the Commonwealth » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:13 am

Labor Syndicates wrote:
United Isles of the Commonwealth wrote:
That is why Donald Trump has said to Bernie supporters "we welcome you with you open arms". Granted, you may hate both, but he will probably be less useless than Hillary. Marginally.Oh, but we can still fight each other later, rest assured


Haha, no. I hate Hillary, but I really hate Trump. And Sanders, I'm sort of "eeeeeeeh, could use a little work." Such is life as a socialist in America.


I completely get where you're coming from. I also am doubtful about Trump being able to get Mexico to pay for a wall as well has him trying to negotiate with North Korea. He is flawed.
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Postby Annorax » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:15 am

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Vassenor wrote:
Oh here we go with the emails thing again. Didn't the Republicans basically admit they were blowing that out of proportion purely to try and torpedo her?


She's under a criminal investigation by the FBI and it has already been proven she did indeed send classified material from her server despite saying otherwise. Sadly for her it isn't a vast right wing conspiracy.

Anyone in the intelligence community will tell you that she is a compromised asset. She should not be able to hold the highest office in the country.

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Postby Annorax » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:17 am

United Isles of the Commonwealth wrote:
Labor Syndicates wrote:
Haha, no. I hate Hillary, but I really hate Trump. And Sanders, I'm sort of "eeeeeeeh, could use a little work." Such is life as a socialist in America.


I completely get where you're coming from. I also am doubtful about Trump being able to get Mexico to pay for a wall as well has him trying to negotiate with North Korea. He is flawed.


Trump already explained how he would get Mexico to pay for the wall. There are actually a number of ways it can be done.
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Postby Korouse » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:18 am

Since when was public disturbance censoring free speech?

There's lines, of course, but those are crossed by a minority of people.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:19 am

Annorax wrote:
United Isles of the Commonwealth wrote:
I completely get where you're coming from. I also am doubtful about Trump being able to get Mexico to pay for a wall as well has him trying to negotiate with North Korea. He is flawed.


Trump already explained how he would get Mexico to pay for the wall. There are actually a number of ways it can be done.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html


So basically he's going to bully them into doing it.
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Postby United Isles of the Commonwealth » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:22 am

Vassenor wrote:
Annorax wrote:
Trump already explained how he would get Mexico to pay for the wall. There are actually a number of ways it can be done.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html


So basically he's going to bully them into doing it.

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:24 am

United Isles of the Commonwealth wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So basically he's going to bully them into doing it.

Politics aren't pretty


And if they still refuse?
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Postby Korouse » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:24 am

United Isles of the Commonwealth wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So basically he's going to bully them into doing it.

Politics aren't pretty

It won't work. It'll actually encourage illegal finance activity.
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Postby Herskerstad » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:25 am

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:27 am

Herskerstad wrote:Oh Triggelypuff, the internet's new favourite meme.


Keep your hate speech off of this forum!
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Postby Stormwrath » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:33 am

Free speech is a fickle thing, I should say.

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Postby Petrolheadia » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:37 am

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Liriena wrote:You believe all liberals have to be subjected to right-wing political violence, regardless of whether they have engaged in political violence themselves?

Also, you do realize that not all leftists are liberals, and not all liberals are leftists?

Also, "freedom of speech is disappearing at an alarming rate" said the NS user as he openly called for suppressing the freedom of speech of liberals, with a history of being able to express his right-wing opinion online with few consequences, with access to a plethora of right-wing forums and news sites throughout the internet, with several right-wing institutions throughout the United States that he could attend, with right-wing TV networks and radio shows still having a commanding presence in American media, with a major party presidential candidate openly disparaging American leftists and even excusing violence against them with few repercussions... Need I go on?



Puh-leeeez American mainstream media is very liberal, it's a constant progressive love fest.

Leftist, liberal, progressive, whatever its all from the same cloth. I'll leave it to the left to figure out what sectarian branch an individual belongs to.

Anyone disparaging leftists is only fighting fire with fire, like I said, let's see how much they like it.


When you call liberals "leftists", you use the same tactic as those who call conservatives "fascists" or "racists" - name-calling that implies that your opponent has some very unpopular views that are regarded as bad for the society.
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Postby Annorax » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:40 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Annorax wrote:

Puh-leeeez American mainstream media is very liberal, it's a constant progressive love fest.

Leftist, liberal, progressive, whatever its all from the same cloth. I'll leave it to the left to figure out what sectarian branch an individual belongs to.

Anyone disparaging leftists is only fighting fire with fire, like I said, let's see how much they like it.


When you call liberals "leftists", you use the same tactic as those who call conservatives "fascists" or "racists" - name-calling that implies that your opponent has some very unpopular views that are regarded as bad for the society.


I do think liberals have some ideas that are bad for society. Mainly economic ones not social ones.

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Postby Esternial » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:41 am

Actively shutting people down is one thing, sure. That would be a breach of people's right to free speech.

But if you call a homophobe a homophobe, you're not doing anything wrong. Their fault for being a homophobe. Grow a thicker skin.

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Postby Herskerstad » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:42 am

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Herskerstad wrote:Oh Triggelypuff, the internet's new favourite meme.


Keep your hate speech off of this forum!


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Postby Petrolheadia » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:43 am

Annorax wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:
When you call liberals "leftists", you use the same tactic as those who call conservatives "fascists" or "racists" - name-calling that implies that your opponent has some very unpopular views that are regarded as bad for the society.


I do think liberals have some ideas that are bad for society. Mainly economic ones not social ones.


You did not get the point - when you call your opponents "leftists", you imply that they support socialism/communism, a very unpopular and even ostracizing ideology, to make them less appealing, while not using any actual points against their ideas.
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Postby Annorax » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:45 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Annorax wrote:
I do think liberals have some ideas that are bad for society. Mainly economic ones not social ones.


You did not get the point - when you call your opponents "leftists", you imply that they support socialism/communism, a very unpopular and even ostracizing ideology, to make them less appealing, while not using any actual points against their ideas.


Yes I know that, what's sad though is socialism is more accepted now for some reason and calling someone a pinko commie doesn't bring any disgust like it once used to.

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