Presumtion of 'Heaven'

[Zoice]

They get to remain with their husbands and it's the same thing and extra benefits execpt they don't get hour al ayn or multiple men but all married couples are reunited in heaven. And only martyrs get the hour al-ayn (72 virgins) not every Muslim man is a martyr so not every man gets them but they of course get their loved ones and families etc.

The 72 virgins thing is a myth based on faulty translations and other things.

If people believe it, then it is not a myth (in the urban legend sense of the word, I strongly suspect is still a myth, as in mythology and not real) and is actually part of that person's religion, or their particular brand of that religion.

[Socialist Tera]

Existing is better than not. Making someone not exist, have no consciousness is wrong.

Why is it wrong to put someone into a state of being which they will perceive as worse to the one they were formerly in?

You are essentially removing all thought that the being will ever have. They will not ever have the chance to exist again.

[The Isles of Lux]

The 72 virgins thing is a myth based on faulty translations and other things.

If people believe it, then it is not a myth (in the urban legend sense of the word, I strongly suspect is still a myth, as in mythology and not real) and is actually part of that person's religion, or their particular brand of that religion.

Myth
noun
1. [bla bla bla]
2. a widely held but false belief or idea.
"he wants to dispel the myth that sea kayaking is too risky or too strenuous"

Something can still be considered a myth if a large amount of people believe it to be true. That's the great thing about truth- no matter what us humans think it is, or want it to be, it doesn't change.

[Zoice]

If people believe it, then it is not a myth (in the urban legend sense of the word, I strongly suspect is still a myth, as in mythology and not real) and is actually part of that person's religion, or their particular brand of that religion.

Myth
noun
1. [bla bla bla]
2. a widely held but false belief or idea.
"he wants to dispel the myth that sea kayaking is too risky or too strenuous"

Something can still be considered a myth if a large amount of people believe it to be true. That's the great thing about truth- no matter what us humans think it is, or want it to be, it doesn't change.

I agree. I think that it's a myth that Muslim martyrs will get 72 virgins in heaven. But, if some Muslims believe that they will get those virgins, then it is not a myth that part of the religion, or more specifically, part of some sects of the religion, is the tenet that martyrs get virgins.

[The Isles of Lux]

Why is it wrong to put someone into a state of being which they will perceive as worse to the one they were formerly in?

You are essentially removing all thought that the being will ever have. They will not ever have the chance to exist again.

And why is that a morally wrong thing to do?

Myth
noun
1. [bla bla bla]
2. a widely held but false belief or idea.
"he wants to dispel the myth that sea kayaking is too risky or too strenuous"

Something can still be considered a myth if a large amount of people believe it to be true. That's the great thing about truth- no matter what us humans think it is, or want it to be, it doesn't change.

I agree. I think that it's a myth that Muslim martyrs will get 72 virgins in heaven. But, if some Muslims believe that they will get those virgins, then it is not a myth that part of the religion, or more specifically, part of some sects of the religion, is the tenet that martyrs get virgins.

Ah, I see. I misunderstood you.

[Zoice]

You are essentially removing all thought that the being will ever have. They will not ever have the chance to exist again.

And why is that a morally wrong thing to do?

It violates the wishes of the person, it hurts them.

[The Isles of Lux]

And why is that a morally wrong thing to do?

It violates the wishes of the person, it hurts them.

And why is it wrong to violate the wishes of the person and hurt them?

[Zoice]

It violates the wishes of the person, it hurts them.

And why is it wrong to violate the wishes of the person and hurt them?

There's no objective reason why we "should" or "should not" do anything. It comes down to a subjective value system that you assume. I choose to value life and people and I want people to be happy. You can either live with infinite turtles beneath your feet, or accept that we're floating in empty space and at some point we just declare a frame of reference.

[Quokkastan]

"Nothing isn't better or worse than anything. Nothing is just nothing."

Existing is better than not. Making someone not exist, have no consciousness is wrong.

Putting aside that the first bit is purely opinion on your part: you were talking about euthanasia. As it happens, we do try to "extend human life artificially to such a length that hopefully in the future we would live virtually forever that death becomes a thing we do not have to worry about as much." Sometimes, we do so at the objection of the religious.

But when life becomes unbearable, then forcing it to continue is cruelty.

Whereas nothing is just nothing.

[Jute]

If people believe it, then it is not a myth (in the urban legend sense of the word, I strongly suspect is still a myth, as in mythology and not real) and is actually part of that person's religion, or their particular brand of that religion.

Myth
noun
1. [bla bla bla]
2. a widely held but false belief or idea.
"he wants to dispel the myth that sea kayaking is too risky or too strenuous"

Something can still be considered a myth if a large amount of people believe it to be true. That's the great thing about truth- no matter what us humans think it is, or want it to be, it doesn't change.

It's obvious that I meant it's a myth that the Quran actually claims that, regardless of what some people claim on the internet.

[The Isles of Lux]

Myth
noun
1. [bla bla bla]
2. a widely held but false belief or idea.
"he wants to dispel the myth that sea kayaking is too risky or too strenuous"

Something can still be considered a myth if a large amount of people believe it to be true. That's the great thing about truth- no matter what us humans think it is, or want it to be, it doesn't change.

It's obvious that I meant it's a myth that the Quran actually claims that, regardless of what some people claim on the internet.

So obvious that my comment wasn't addressed to you.