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Postby Hurdegaryp » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:45 pm

Italios wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Wrong. You're an omnivore, which means you'll eat about anything.

Human teeth are clearly frugivorous, and yet animal killers like you will go out of your way to pretend it's okay to eat animals (that would gladly take a bit out of us). :evil:

From the vile and execrable animal killer propaganda site Wikipedia: Humans are omnivorous, capable of consuming a wide variety of plant and animal material.
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Postby Italios » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:51 pm

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Italios wrote:Human teeth are clearly frugivorous, and yet animal killers like you will go out of your way to pretend it's okay to eat animals (that would gladly take a bit out of us). :evil:

From the vile and execrable animal killer propaganda site Wikipedia: Humans are omnivorous, capable of consuming a wide variety of plant and animal material.

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Postby Chrinthanium » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:53 pm

Italios wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:From the vile and execrable animal killer propaganda site Wikipedia: Humans are omnivorous, capable of consuming a wide variety of plant and animal material.

I can't hear youuuuuu!

IF you compare us to carnivores in the wild? Probably some truth. However, we're not the meat-eaters from the wild who take bites out of raw flesh. We got fire, then applied that to the meat.. and that helped out brains grow.
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Postby Philjia » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:56 pm

Chrinthanium wrote:

IF you compare us to carnivores in the wild? Probably some truth. However, we're not the meat-eaters from the wild who take bites out of raw flesh. We got fire, then applied that to the meat.. and that helped out brains grow.


Our diets shouldn't contain much meat, but it's good for us in moderation.
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Postby Italios » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:57 pm

Chrinthanium wrote:

IF you compare us to carnivores in the wild? Probably some truth. However, we're not the meat-eaters from the wild who take bites out of raw flesh. We got fire, then applied that to the meat.. and that helped out brains grow.

....I don't actually believe the vegan schtick, at all. :lol2:

LIES. PETA disagrees.

Unlike all natural carnivores and omnivores, most humans have no instinct or desire to catch living animals, dismember them with their bare hands, and eat them raw. Natural meat-eaters look at a live rabbit or a cow (or even a roadside carcass) with happy anticipation. They can’t wait to kill their prey and gnaw off a leg. In contrast, many people can’t even eat meat that looks too much like the animal it came from; they want their meat skinned and deboned and placed in a plastic-wrapped tray at the grocery store. Even the less squeamish prefer their meat cooked and would rather not slaughter a deer by tearing his throat out with their teeth.

Our anatomy and physiology are those of natural plant-eaters. Human canine teeth are small and blunt, and we have flat molars for grinding up plant fibers. Look at a dog’s or a cat’s teeth and you’ll see something quite different: long, pointed canine teeth for catching prey and tearing the hide and sharp-edged teeth in the back for shearing off chunks of flesh. Humans have hands that are useful for gathering vegetables and fruits but aren’t that good for killing and ripping skin and flesh. Natural carnivores (like cats) and omnivores (like bears) have claws that they use to grasp and tear at their prey.

Humans are not designed to easily digest meat. Natural meat-eaters swallow their meat raw after no or minimal chewing, relying on their highly acidic stomach juices to break down the meat and kill the bacteria that cause food poisoning. We chew our food thoroughly, and we have a carbohydrate-digesting enzyme in our saliva to start the digestive process, just as other herbivores do. Without the stomach acidity that carnivores and omnivores have, we are forced to cook our meat to avoid the risk of food poisoning. Like all herbivores, we have a long intestinal tract, which is necessary for the proper digestion of the cellulose in plants. Carnivores and omnivores have shorter intestines, which are designed to quickly digest meat before it begins to rot.
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Postby Chrinthanium » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:59 pm

Italios wrote:
Chrinthanium wrote:IF you compare us to carnivores in the wild? Probably some truth. However, we're not the meat-eaters from the wild who take bites out of raw flesh. We got fire, then applied that to the meat.. and that helped out brains grow.

....I don't actually believe the vegan schtick, at all. :lol2:

LIES. PETA disagrees.

Unlike all natural carnivores and omnivores, most humans have no instinct or desire to catch living animals, dismember them with their bare hands, and eat them raw. Natural meat-eaters look at a live rabbit or a cow (or even a roadside carcass) with happy anticipation. They can’t wait to kill their prey and gnaw off a leg. In contrast, many people can’t even eat meat that looks too much like the animal it came from; they want their meat skinned and deboned and placed in a plastic-wrapped tray at the grocery store. Even the less squeamish prefer their meat cooked and would rather not slaughter a deer by tearing his throat out with their teeth.

Our anatomy and physiology are those of natural plant-eaters. Human canine teeth are small and blunt, and we have flat molars for grinding up plant fibers. Look at a dog’s or a cat’s teeth and you’ll see something quite different: long, pointed canine teeth for catching prey and tearing the hide and sharp-edged teeth in the back for shearing off chunks of flesh. Humans have hands that are useful for gathering vegetables and fruits but aren’t that good for killing and ripping skin and flesh. Natural carnivores (like cats) and omnivores (like bears) have claws that they use to grasp and tear at their prey.

Humans are not designed to easily digest meat. Natural meat-eaters swallow their meat raw after no or minimal chewing, relying on their highly acidic stomach juices to break down the meat and kill the bacteria that cause food poisoning. We chew our food thoroughly, and we have a carbohydrate-digesting enzyme in our saliva to start the digestive process, just as other herbivores do. Without the stomach acidity that carnivores and omnivores have, we are forced to cook our meat to avoid the risk of food poisoning. Like all herbivores, we have a long intestinal tract, which is necessary for the proper digestion of the cellulose in plants. Carnivores and omnivores have shorter intestines, which are designed to quickly digest meat before it begins to rot.

People Eating Tasty Animals?
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Postby Ethane » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:01 pm

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Postby Chrinthanium » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:02 pm

Ethane wrote:A day away keeps the monsters away.

ROAR!
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Postby Philjia » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:04 pm

Italios wrote:
Chrinthanium wrote:IF you compare us to carnivores in the wild? Probably some truth. However, we're not the meat-eaters from the wild who take bites out of raw flesh. We got fire, then applied that to the meat.. and that helped out brains grow.

....I don't actually believe the vegan schtick, at all. :lol2:

LIES. PETA disagrees.

Unlike all natural carnivores and omnivores, most humans have no instinct or desire to catch living animals, dismember them with their bare hands, and eat them raw. Natural meat-eaters look at a live rabbit or a cow (or even a roadside carcass) with happy anticipation. They can’t wait to kill their prey and gnaw off a leg. In contrast, many people can’t even eat meat that looks too much like the animal it came from; they want their meat skinned and deboned and placed in a plastic-wrapped tray at the grocery store. Even the less squeamish prefer their meat cooked and would rather not slaughter a deer by tearing his throat out with their teeth.

Our anatomy and physiology are those of natural plant-eaters. Human canine teeth are small and blunt, and we have flat molars for grinding up plant fibers. Look at a dog’s or a cat’s teeth and you’ll see something quite different: long, pointed canine teeth for catching prey and tearing the hide and sharp-edged teeth in the back for shearing off chunks of flesh. Humans have hands that are useful for gathering vegetables and fruits but aren’t that good for killing and ripping skin and flesh. Natural carnivores (like cats) and omnivores (like bears) have claws that they use to grasp and tear at their prey.

Humans are not designed to easily digest meat. Natural meat-eaters swallow their meat raw after no or minimal chewing, relying on their highly acidic stomach juices to break down the meat and kill the bacteria that cause food poisoning. We chew our food thoroughly, and we have a carbohydrate-digesting enzyme in our saliva to start the digestive process, just as other herbivores do. Without the stomach acidity that carnivores and omnivores have, we are forced to cook our meat to avoid the risk of food poisoning. Like all herbivores, we have a long intestinal tract, which is necessary for the proper digestion of the cellulose in plants. Carnivores and omnivores have shorter intestines, which are designed to quickly digest meat before it begins to rot.


What they've failed to consider is that we've actually adapted to having cooked meat in our diet. Cooking decreases chances of food poisoning so stone age chefs would be more likely to be the ones getting it on.
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Postby Ethane » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:04 pm

Chrinthanium wrote:
Ethane wrote:A day away keeps the monsters away.

ROAR!

Or not...
Damn it.
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Postby Astrolinium » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:07 pm

Ooh, so I was poking around on my school's web portal to find an online class to register for for the second summer session and I found a course on Religion in America that satisfies my Modern Historical Perspectives requirement, and the textbooks look super interesting. I'm pretty excited for this.
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Postby Chrinthanium » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:07 pm

Ethane wrote:
Chrinthanium wrote:ROAR!

Or not...
Damn it.

I'm not really a monster. I just play one on TV.
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Postby Ethane » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:07 pm

Philjia wrote:
Italios wrote:....I don't actually believe the vegan schtick, at all. :lol2:

LIES. PETA disagrees.



What they've failed to consider is that we've actually adapted to having cooked meat in our diet. Cooking decreases chances of food poisoning so stone age chefs would be more likely to be the ones getting it on.

What! You don't believe the vegans!!! Everyone should believe the vegans, they are the truth tellers after all... :p
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Postby Chrinthanium » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:08 pm

Astrolinium wrote:Ooh, so I was poking around on my school's web portal to find an online class to register for for the second summer session and I found a course on Religion in America that satisfies my Modern Historical Perspectives requirement, and the textbooks look super interesting. I'm pretty excited for this.

This is why I like you. You're actually excited about classes and textbooks. That, my friend, is a rare quality.
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Postby Ethane » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:09 pm

Astrolinium wrote:Ooh, so I was poking around on my school's web portal to find an online class to register for for the second summer session and I found a course on Religion in America that satisfies my Modern Historical Perspectives requirement, and the textbooks look super interesting. I'm pretty excited for this.

That actually sounds quite interesting. I like anything on history tbh, and religion can definitely be interesting. I hope you enjoy it :)
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Postby Pacific Union of Cascadia » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:11 pm

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Postby Astrolinium » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:16 pm

Chrinthanium wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:Ooh, so I was poking around on my school's web portal to find an online class to register for for the second summer session and I found a course on Religion in America that satisfies my Modern Historical Perspectives requirement, and the textbooks look super interesting. I'm pretty excited for this.

This is why I like you. You're actually excited about classes and textbooks. That, my friend, is a rare quality.

Well, I'm a Classics Major. No one's pressuring their kid to go be a Classicist and make the big bucks, so pretty much everyone who's in Classics is in it for the love.

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Astrolinium wrote:Ooh, so I was poking around on my school's web portal to find an online class to register for for the second summer session and I found a course on Religion in America that satisfies my Modern Historical Perspectives requirement, and the textbooks look super interesting. I'm pretty excited for this.

That actually sounds quite interesting. I like anything on history tbh, and religion can definitely be interesting. I hope you enjoy it :)


We have a whole textbook on the religious beliefs of the founding fathers, which should be super interesting.
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Postby Abserdia » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:19 pm

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Postby Ethane » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:20 pm

Abserdia wrote:
Pacific Union of Cascadia wrote:my dudes

Hello.

You again. Nice flag :)
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Postby Abserdia » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:22 pm

Ethane wrote:
Abserdia wrote:Hello.

You again. Nice flag :)

Somebody TG'd it to me. I wish I could remember the nation's name, but I forgot...
Black lives matter

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Postby Esternial » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:22 pm

Chrinthanium wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:Ooh, so I was poking around on my school's web portal to find an online class to register for for the second summer session and I found a course on Religion in America that satisfies my Modern Historical Perspectives requirement, and the textbooks look super interesting. I'm pretty excited for this.

This is why I like you. You're actually excited about classes and textbooks. That, my friend, is a rare quality.

Hey now I'm excited about classes and stuff too.

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Postby Italios » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:23 pm

Astrolinium wrote:Ooh, so I was poking around on my school's web portal to find an online class to register for for the second summer session and I found a course on Religion in America that satisfies my Modern Historical Perspectives requirement, and the textbooks look super interesting. I'm pretty excited for this.

Man, I would love to take a class on religion, especially in America. I love learning about religion because as a nonreligious person it helps me understand it better, I feel my school doesn't offer enough on religion from a historical or literary point of view.
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Postby Chrinthanium » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:24 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
Chrinthanium wrote:This is why I like you. You're actually excited about classes and textbooks. That, my friend, is a rare quality.

Well, I'm a Classics Major. No one's pressuring their kid to go be a Classicist and make the big bucks, so pretty much everyone who's in Classics is in it for the love.

Ethane wrote:That actually sounds quite interesting. I like anything on history tbh, and religion can definitely be interesting. I hope you enjoy it :)


We have a whole textbook on the religious beliefs of the founding fathers, which should be super interesting.

You're right about that. I wanted to write a joke about it here, but I couldn't.
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Postby Chrinthanium » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:25 pm

Esternial wrote:
Chrinthanium wrote:This is why I like you. You're actually excited about classes and textbooks. That, my friend, is a rare quality.

Hey now I'm excited about classes and stuff too.

I like you, but because of your fluffy alpaca-ness.
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Postby Esternial » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:26 pm

Italios wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:Ooh, so I was poking around on my school's web portal to find an online class to register for for the second summer session and I found a course on Religion in America that satisfies my Modern Historical Perspectives requirement, and the textbooks look super interesting. I'm pretty excited for this.

Man, I would love to take a class on religion, especially in America. I love learning about religion because as a nonreligious person it helps me understand it better, I feel my school doesn't offer enough on religion from a historical or literary point of view.

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