Britain vs the USA which is best?

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

I daresay there's not a single edifice in the world that could withstand 700 years of British weather. Even London Bridge has had to be replaced twice.

Is your house a hermetically sealed polycarbonate geodesic dome, perhaps?

Someone from the US bought one of the original bridges. They dismantled it then rebuilt it. It is on display somewhere in Arizona.

It's not on display; it's actually being used as a bridge over Lake Havasu. And still called "London Bridge," IIRC.

[Kainesia]

Countries that have put a man on the moon
The United States of America
Not Britain

Countries that have paid terrorist ransoms
Britain
Not the US

Countries that invented planes
The US
Not Britain

Countries that allowed several blows to the stability of the state (Neighboring countries being conquered n' shit) before deciding to start fighting Hitler
Britain
Not the US

Countries that, the last time they were sucker punched, decided to invent nukes and end a war
The US
Not Britain

Countries that laughed in the face of nuclear annihilation and are still capable of literally ending the world
USSR ( pfft, whatever. Uh, doesn't count)
The US
not Britain (although your attempt to also stand up to The USSR was pretty adorable)

Countries that got their asses kicked in the 1700s and let a bunch of colonies become the most powerful country in the world
Britain
Not the US

Countries that invented the assembly line
The US
Not Britain

Countries that spent an entire decade carpet bombing the Middle East just to find a single dude because nobody is safe from them
Not Britain
The US

Countries that once ruled the world and dropped the entire fucking ball
Britain
Not the US

Countries with the most expansive and powerful Navy in the world
The US
Not Britain

Countries that could fit into Wisconsin (IIRC)
Britain
Not the US

The list goes on and on. It's cute you think this is a debate.

*Cheeseburger pieces flying out of stuffed mouth, firing an m16 into the air while dangerously close to a preschool*

U-S-A!
U-S-A!
U-S-A!

Ah... I see someone get their history "degree" at elementary school. Yes you did! Who's a clever boy!

Negotiating with terrorists? Hmmm... Iran-Contra ring a bell? In fact does fucking Iran ring a bell? I heard you have an excellent track record of dealing with hostage situations with them. Of course, you could always rescue hostages using elite special forces... But we patented that shit in the 40s.

A british engineer invented the first heavier than air aircraft, the wright bros just stuck an engine on theirs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Cayley

America invented the assembley line? Hmmm... Why, that sounds like a part of an industrial revolution! Now where on earth have I heard that term before....

UK-OG-BANI!
UK-OG-BANI!

[The Two Jerseys]

Ah... I see someone get their history "degree" at elementary school. Yes you did! Who's a clever boy!

Negotiating with terrorists? Hmmm... Iran-Contra ring a bell? In fact does fucking Iran ring a bell? I heard you have an excellent track record of dealing with hostage situations with them. Of course, you could always rescue hostages using elite special forces... But we patented that shit in the 40s.

Rogers' Rangers, Morgan's Riflemen, and Marion's Men would like a word with you...

A british engineer invented the first heavier than air aircraft, the wright bros just stuck an engine on theirs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Cayley

In other words, he invented something completely useless.

America invented the assembley line? Hmmm... Why, that sounds like a part of an industrial revolution! Now where on earth have I heard that term before....

Yet you guys couldn't invent interchangeable parts...

Admit it, the Industrial Revolution would have been nothing without American involvement.

[Renoa]

I'm very much a "My country, right or wrong" type of American. I don't necessarily agree with what America is and has been, but I adore what it "should" be. So I tentatively go with America here.

Meanwhile, a good few of the Europeans I encounter, especially Britons, circle jerk themselves so often I'm amazed they don't complain of nationwide chafing.

[Tobiasia]

Ah... I see someone get their history "degree" at elementary school. Yes you did! Who's a clever boy!

Negotiating with terrorists? Hmmm... Iran-Contra ring a bell? In fact does fucking Iran ring a bell? I heard you have an excellent track record of dealing with hostage situations with them. Of course, you could always rescue hostages using elite special forces... But we patented that shit in the 40s.

Rogers' Rangers, Morgan's Riflemen, and Marion's Men would like a word with you...

A british engineer invented the first heavier than air aircraft, the wright bros just stuck an engine on theirs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Cayley

In other words, he invented something completely useless.

America invented the assembley line? Hmmm... Why, that sounds like a part of an industrial revolution! Now where on earth have I heard that term before....

Yet you guys couldn't invent interchangeable parts...

Admit it, the Industrial Revolution would have been nothing without American involvement.

The Industrial Revolution which began in Britain and spread to Europe first had no involvement from America during it's earlier stages.

[The Union of the West]

As an American, I have no choice but to choose Britain.

[Annorax]

I have heard this debate many times and wondered what you guys think. Personally as a British person I think Britain is better because we have a welfare state with free healthcare, and a larger history. Also we are speaking English.

What do you think? You don't have to be British or American to tell us!

1776.....its over.

U.S.A. wins because we can have owns guns, have a stronger military, a bigger economy, and more dominating culture.

[Jumhuriyah Hindustan]

Both are imperialist warmongers.

I'm an American citizen, if that's important.

[Qandaristania]

Tea 4 lyfe. #Britain

Not to mention that I got tons of relatives and countrymen over there.

[United Kingdom of Kent]

I have heard this debate many times and wondered what you guys think. Personally as a British person I think Britain is better because we have a welfare state with free healthcare, and a larger history. Also we are speaking English.

What do you think? You don't have to be British or American to tell us!

1776.....its over.

U.S.A. wins because we can have owns guns, have a stronger military, a bigger economy, and more dominating culture.

More dominating culture? I think that's higely debatable, if I'm not mistaken the UK topped the soft power ranking for 2015, further other than perhaps the pictures and fast food I can't think of a single other cultural export from the US.

[Annorax]

1776.....its over.

U.S.A. wins because we can have owns guns, have a stronger military, a bigger economy, and more dominating culture.

More dominating culture? I think that's higely debatable, if I'm not mistaken the UK topped the soft power ranking for 2015, further other than perhaps the pictures and fast food I can't think of a single other cultural export from the US.

There are ideological principles like individualism and faith in democracy for starters. Britain was a monarchy. Looks like a triumph of the echo over the voice to me.

[Vvarden]

I typically have this photo on standby.

(Image)

Britain
Brits may be pompous and complain a lot, but Americans tend to engage in a level of self-fellatio and historic revisionism that is a sigh to behold.

We won the revolution! We won everything! America can't be beat! USA! USA! USA!

Explain Vietnam then.

[Annorax]

To not get arrested for Nazi dog salutes or tell shitty jokes.

Doesn't happen in the UK, otherwise our jails would be full of mbers of the royal family and comedians.

By the way we have a lot better comedians.

No, no you do not. British humor is dry which is code word for sucks. England has to be one of the least funny countries in the world.

[Exxosia]

Canada. It's the best of Britain and the US with none of the downsides.

But in all seriousness, I would have to say the US, because most of the Brits I have known have a vitriolic hatred of progress, fairness, well-being, and potential. The US is going straight to hell, the UK is slightly ahead in the race to failure, Australia is just getting onto the fail train, and Canada is the nice child who can only sit back and wonder why its anglosphere family decided to self-destruct.

(I did not forget NZ, it's just trying to law low, snag some of the family treasure and hope to survive when things blow over.)

[New Assam]

How is British food bland and boring?

I never said America wasn't beautiful, I just value the beauty of Britain over that of the US. I'd much rather go to the Peak District, or the Lake District, or the Jurassic Coast, or the English Riviera, or the Yorkshire Dales than I would anywhere in America.

Compared to say... Southern food for example (Let alone food from the rest of the US) the UK (Specifically England) can't even begin to compare, it's even worse when compared to the rest of the US.

British food is rather, unremarkable, there's very little variety, not a lot of outside influence/trade, is completely outclassed by it's surrounding countries (France and Spain, hell, even Scotland), and has some of the strangest combinations (Who thought was a good idea to put an egg inside of meat, seriously?).

Eh, fair enough. I'm much more partial to the national parks or variety of US towns though.

Well, I think you and I must have different tastes then. After all, food is a rather subjective matter.

Doesn't happen in the UK, otherwise our jails would be full of mbers of the royal family and comedians.

By the way we have a lot better comedians.

No, no you do not. British humor is dry which is code word for sucks. England has to be one of the least funny countries in the world.

Better than fucking awful obscene toilet humour and endless canned laughter. Dry humour is great provided, of course, you fully understand it.

Canada. It's the best of Britain and the US with none of the downsides.

But in all seriousness, I would have to say the US, because most of the Brits I have known have a vitriolic hatred of progress, fairness, well-being, and potential. The US is going straight to hell, the UK is slightly ahead in the race to failure, Australia is just getting onto the fail train, and Canada is the nice child who can only sit back and wonder why its anglosphere family decided to self-destruct.

(I did not forget NZ, it's just trying to law low, snag some of the family treasure and hope to survive when things blow over.)

Britain is one of the most tolerant countries in the world, far more so than America certainly.

I'm very much a "My country, right or wrong" type of American. I don't necessarily agree with what America is and has been, but I adore what it "should" be. So I tentatively go with America here.

Meanwhile, a good few of the Europeans I encounter, especially Britons, circle jerk themselves so often I'm amazed they don't complain of nationwide chafing.

And Americans don't?

[Minzerland]

Canada. It's the best of Britain and the US with none of the downsides.

But in all seriousness, I would have to say the US, because most of the Brits I have known have a vitriolic hatred of progress, fairness, well-being, and potential. The US is going straight to hell, the UK is slightly ahead in the race to failure, Australia is just getting onto the fail train, and Canada is the nice child who can only sit back and wonder why its anglosphere family decided to self-destruct.

(I did not forget NZ, it's just trying to law low, snag some of the family treasure and hope to survive when things blow over.)

Is that why Canada elected Trudeau?

[-Ebola-]

I like both, and I am very disappointed that neither one wants me to visit.

[United Kingdom of Kent]

More dominating culture? I think that's higely debatable, if I'm not mistaken the UK topped the soft power ranking for 2015, further other than perhaps the pictures and fast food I can't think of a single other cultural export from the US.

There are ideological principles like individualism and faith in democracy for starters. Britain was a monarchy. Looks like a triumph of the echo over the voice to me.

Britain is the mother of modern democracy, and most of what the US sees as its base principles are inherited from the United Kingdom. We have charters dictating the rights of people as individuals and their freedoms drafted centuries before your country was even a twinckle in someone's eye. It's like a child trying to rival the father in life experience and triumphs.

[Chkalovsk]

The UK and the USA are both major strategic, political, economic and military allies to each other.
There's no need for this 'whos better' bullshit because both countries, quite frankly, are unique in their own way.

Thank you and good bye.

[Annorax]

There are ideological principles like individualism and faith in democracy for starters. Britain was a monarchy. Looks like a triumph of the echo over the voice to me.

Britain is the mother of modern democracy, and most of what the US sees as its base principles are inherited from the United Kingdom. We have charters dictating the rights of people as individuals and their freedoms drafted centuries before your country was even a twinckle in someone's eye. It's like a child trying to rival the father in life experience and triumphs.

Britain is the mother of none of those things. The U.S. exists because old King George was a petulant child. I suppose the freedom draft you are referring to is the Magna Carta myth, that allows judges and politicians to pay lip service to the rule of law. At the time it was made it was revolutionary sure, but I'd say the U.S. Constitution is even more important and influential.

[The Nihilistic view]

I have heard this debate many times and wondered what you guys think. Personally as a British person I think Britain is better because we have a welfare state with free healthcare, and a larger history. Also we are speaking English.

What do you think? You don't have to be British or American to tell us!

1776.....its over.

U.S.A. wins because we can have owns guns, have a stronger military, a bigger economy, and more dominating culture.

>Have a Gun

>Lives in Britain

[Kainesia]

I have heard this debate many times and wondered what you guys think. Personally as a British person I think Britain is better because we have a welfare state with free healthcare, and a larger history. Also we are speaking English.

What do you think? You don't have to be British or American to tell us!

1776.....its over.

U.S.A. wins because we can have owns guns, have a stronger military, a bigger economy, and more dominating culture.

We have less gun crime, better democracy, stronger currency, and our food isn't all injected with high fructose corn syrup. Plus, having been to America, I can say without doubt that our mcdonald's tastes miles better.

[Kainesia]

I like both, and I am very disappointed that neither one wants me to visit.

Sorry to break this to you mate... But the climate here isn't really west African.

[The Shetland and Faroe Islands]

Of course because I'm British I'm biased to think that the UK is better, but both sides are fantastic. There are benefits of living both in the UK and the USA, so there really doesn't need to be a debate about this.

[Annorax]

1776.....its over.

U.S.A. wins because we can have owns guns, have a stronger military, a bigger economy, and more dominating culture.

We have less gun crime, better democracy, stronger currency, and our food isn't all injected with high fructose corn syrup. Plus, having been to America, I can say without doubt that our mcdonald's tastes miles better.

The U.K. has a higher violent crime rate, American democracy is better because elections are set at a fixed time interval, in the U.K.they can fluctuate to avoid bad publicity, food in the U.S. is a melting pot of excellent cuisine from Southern and Tex-Mex to Chinese and Italian and everything in between. What does Britain have? Fish and chips?