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Which is better, Britain or the USA

Britain, (British citizen)
62
23%
The USA, (US citizen)
108
40%
Britain, (Other country)
70
26%
The USA, (Other country)
28
10%
 
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:56 pm

Rufford wrote:
New haven america wrote:No country has full democracy. Hell, most people don't even know what full/true democracy is.

More democracy then, also i think it helps that all of our people have access to clean water, some thing that america dosn't.

No, not really.

The hell are you talking about? Flint? That's only one place in a country that's 40x's larger then the UK. I have clean drinking water, everyone I know has clean drinking water, people from across the country have clean drinking water. Where is this epidemic located?
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Postby The Patriotic States » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:57 pm

You guys may have Bond and funny humor, but god dammit, I'm proud to be an American, through and through. We're the nation of Sunday BBQs, insane politics, friendly and patriotic citizens, guns, and hamburgers, and I love it.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:57 pm

Tobiasia wrote:
New haven america wrote:Einstein and his science/theories was a large driving force for the creation of the atomic/nuclear bomb.

So technically speaking, Germany invented it.

China made the first actual bomb by the way if anyone's intereasted.

And fire works.
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Postby Oceanias Elena Inge Dreyden » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:04 pm

Tobiasia wrote:I have heard this debate many times and wondered what you guys think. Personally as a British person I think Britain is better because we have a welfare state with free healthcare, and a larger history. Also we are speaking English.


I'm an American, but this is why I'm an anglophile and why I love the United Kingdom, which is why I think Europe in general is better
than the United Fascist States of America.

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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:07 pm

New haven america wrote:
Rufford wrote:
It was a Norwegian scientist wasn't it?

Einstein and his science/theories was a large driving force for the creation of the atomic/nuclear bomb.

So technically speaking, Germany invented it.

One person is an entire nation state all of the sudden?

If anything Germany loses points because its government policies drove scientists like Einstein to America.
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Postby Celibrae » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:08 pm

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Tobiasia wrote:What is jello?


It is the American word for jelly, though who knows why you would put it in a salad. But then who would order sausage and jam?


Rufford wrote: a cunt.
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Postby The Constitutional Republic of Freedonia » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:11 pm

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The Constitutional Republic of Freedonia wrote:America. Bigger economy, bigger military, more freedom. Only place we lose is in the accents. (Britain includes Scotland, after all)

I'll give you bigger economy (but for the lack of any real worker rights), bigger isn't always better, more freedom- my arse.


You are saying the place where you can get charged for waving a kitchen knife against a burglar, or have a veteran arrested and jailed for turning a firearm into the police after finding it, where the government can shut down the newspapers whenever it feels like it, and where you can actually get arrested for teaching your dog a dumb trick has more freedom?

Britain has vastly less freedom in bearing arms, and substantially less in freedom of the press, and freedom of speech-not too great in religious liberties either. How do they have more freedom than America?
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Postby Aterria » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:16 pm

Honestly I don't care too much about "freedom". I just stay in line for the most part.
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Postby Aghrabia » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:16 pm

The Constitutional Republic of Freedonia wrote:
Aghrabia wrote:


I'll give you bigger economy (but for the lack of any real worker rights), bigger isn't always better, more freedom- my arse.


You are saying the place where you can get charged for waving a kitchen knife against a burglar, or have a veteran arrested and jailed for turning a firearm into the police after finding it, where the government can shut down the newspapers whenever it feels like it, and where you can actually get arrested for teaching your dog a dumb trick has more freedom?

Britain has vastly less freedom in bearing arms, and substantially less in freedom of the press, and freedom of speech-not too great in religious liberties either. How do they have more freedom than America?

Right to bear arms is bullshit (admittedly it would be very difficult to implement in America, but still...). Why exactly do you need a gun in a country that normal policemen can't even carry guns. Dunblane, look it up- the reason that Britain is more sensible than the US.
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Postby The Tirol Region » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:17 pm

The Patriotic States wrote:You guys may have Bond and funny humor, but god dammit, I'm proud to be an American, through and through. We're the nation of Sunday BBQs, insane politics, friendly and patriotic citizens, guns, and hamburgers, and I love it.

Sunday BBQs are definitely Australian. Hamburgers, well Hamburg. Are guns really something to be proud of, statistically if you own a gun you are more likely to be shot.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:19 pm

Aghrabia wrote:
The Constitutional Republic of Freedonia wrote:
You are saying the place where you can get charged for waving a kitchen knife against a burglar, or have a veteran arrested and jailed for turning a firearm into the police after finding it, where the government can shut down the newspapers whenever it feels like it, and where you can actually get arrested for teaching your dog a dumb trick has more freedom?

Britain has vastly less freedom in bearing arms, and substantially less in freedom of the press, and freedom of speech-not too great in religious liberties either. How do they have more freedom than America?

Right to bear arms is bullshit (admittedly it would be very difficult to implement in America, but still...). Why exactly do you need a gun in a country that normal policemen can't even carry guns. Dunblane, look it up- the reason that Britain is more sensible than the US.


I'll take dangerous freedom over nanny state nonsense every day.
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Postby Cumberlanda » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:20 pm

The Tirol region wrote:
The Patriotic States wrote:You guys may have Bond and funny humor, but god dammit, I'm proud to be an American, through and through. We're the nation of Sunday BBQs, insane politics, friendly and patriotic citizens, guns, and hamburgers, and I love it.

Sunday BBQs are definitely Australian. Hamburgers, well Hamburg. Are guns really something to be proud of, statistically if you own a gun you are more likely to be shot.


Barbecues come from Native Americans, actually. The word "barbacoa" or something like that, coming from the tribes down in Florida and the Carribean. Hamburg style meat comes from Hamburg, yes, but the Hamburger itself is American.

As for guns, well, I like keeping my money and not getting robbed in the streets or stabbed to death *cough cough Glasgow*
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Postby The Tirol Region » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:21 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Aghrabia wrote:Right to bear arms is bullshit (admittedly it would be very difficult to implement in America, but still...). Why exactly do you need a gun in a country that normal policemen can't even carry guns. Dunblane, look it up- the reason that Britain is more sensible than the US.


I'll take dangerous freedom over nanny state nonsense every day.



Are guns really something to be proud of, statistically if you own a gun you are more likely to be shot.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:22 pm

The Tirol region wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I'll take dangerous freedom over nanny state nonsense every day.



Are guns really something to be proud of, statistically if you own a gun you are more likely to be shot.


I own more than 10 guns and I seem to be doing fine.
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Postby Aterria » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:22 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Tirol region wrote:

Are guns really something to be proud of, statistically if you own a gun you are more likely to be shot.


I own more than 10 guns and I seem to be doing fine.

I'm still too young to own a gun...
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Postby Tobiasia » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:29 pm

The Constitutional Republic of Freedonia wrote:
Aghrabia wrote:


I'll give you bigger economy (but for the lack of any real worker rights), bigger isn't always better, more freedom- my arse.


You are saying the place where you can get charged for waving a kitchen knife against a burglar, or have a veteran arrested and jailed for turning a firearm into the police after finding it, where the government can shut down the newspapers whenever it feels like it, and where you can actually get arrested for teaching your dog a dumb trick has more freedom?

Britain has vastly less freedom in bearing arms, and substantially less in freedom of the press, and freedom of speech-not too great in religious liberties either. How do they have more freedom than America?

Um excuse me? When did we get arrested for teaching dogs tricks, or handing in firearms.
And where did you get the ridiculous notion that the government can shut down all the newspapers? If they could they would have during the last scandal.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:30 pm

I wouldn't live in the US. I would, and do, live in the UK.

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Postby Tobiasia » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:33 pm

Can everyone on both sides stop just making stuff up about all of Americas water being poisoned or brits being arrested for teaching dogs tricks please
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:33 pm

The first Galactic Republic wrote:
New haven america wrote:Einstein and his science/theories was a large driving force for the creation of the atomic/nuclear bomb.

So technically speaking, Germany invented it.

One person is an entire nation state all of the sudden?

If anything Germany loses points because its government policies drove scientists like Einstein to America.

Tons of people say pizza is Italian, even though it was invented in America.

So yes, it apparently does.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:34 pm

Tobiasia wrote:Can everyone on both sides stop just making stuff up about all of Americas water being poisoned or brits being arrested for teaching dogs tricks please


Pretty sure the dog thing isn't made up, wasn't a guy in Scotland arrested for teaching his dog how to do a Nazi salute?
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Postby Indo-Japanese Separatist Districts » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:34 pm

Tobiasia wrote:
The Constitutional Republic of Freedonia wrote:
You are saying the place where you can get charged for waving a kitchen knife against a burglar, or have a veteran arrested and jailed for turning a firearm into the police after finding it, where the government can shut down the newspapers whenever it feels like it, and where you can actually get arrested for teaching your dog a dumb trick has more freedom?

Britain has vastly less freedom in bearing arms, and substantially less in freedom of the press, and freedom of speech-not too great in religious liberties either. How do they have more freedom than America?

Um excuse me? When did we get arrested for teaching dogs tricks, or handing in firearms.
And where did you get the ridiculous notion that the government can shut down all the newspapers? If they could they would have during the last scandal.

Ahem.
Teaching dog trick.
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Postby Tobiasia » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:35 pm

New haven america wrote:
The first Galactic Republic wrote:One person is an entire nation state all of the sudden?

If anything Germany loses points because its government policies drove scientists like Einstein to America.

Tons of people say pizza is Italian, even though it was invented in America.

So yes, it apparently does.

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Postby New haven america » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:35 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Tobiasia wrote:Can everyone on both sides stop just making stuff up about all of Americas water being poisoned or brits being arrested for teaching dogs tricks please


Pretty sure the dog thing isn't made up, wasn't a guy in Scotland arrested for teaching his dog how to do a Nazi salute?

Yep.
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Postby Indo-Japanese Separatist Districts » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:38 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Tobiasia wrote:Can everyone on both sides stop just making stuff up about all of Americas water being poisoned or brits being arrested for teaching dogs tricks please


Pretty sure the dog thing isn't made up, wasn't a guy in Scotland arrested for teaching his dog how to do a Nazi salute?

Actually none of them are made up.
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Postby Tobiasia » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:41 pm

New haven america wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Pretty sure the dog thing isn't made up, wasn't a guy in Scotland arrested for teaching his dog how to do a Nazi salute?

Yep.

No he was arrested for being anti-Semitic, the police weren't thinking,"oh we were going to release you but you trained your dog so bad luck".
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