Screaming Infants in Public Spaces? Allowed?

[Donut section]

It's not unreasonable for younger people to not be out after certain times. To allow an adult only situation, especially around party districts.

Children on airplanes is always a no no tho.

[Grande Republic of Arcadia]

I say let the baby cry it will help his lungs become stronger

[Neu Leonstein]

Sound-proof helmets, or some other noise cancelling technology. Maybe tuned to cancel out every sound louder than a normal speaking voice. And everyone under the age of, say, seven has to wear it when they leave the house. Then, when they arrive at Kindergarten, school or some other designated zone, they can take them off.

I wonder whether this would actually make kids behave like people more quickly. I am (obviously) not a parent or particularly interested in parenting, but it definitely feels like not very long after they've left the baby stage, kids just go full sociopath. No empathy, no interest in the feelings or needs of other people. Just screaming until they get what they want. But it works - parents find it impossible to ignore, especially in public spaces. So if you put a sound-proof helmet on the kid, they could scream all they want and it won't get them what they want. Instead of learning that by being a dick they get their wishes, they have to learn to communicate and empathise much sooner.

Yeah, yeah, I know. But one can dream, no?

[SD_Film Artists]

what should they do, kill them?

babies cry. first they aren't crying then they are. you cant keep them home 24/7.

This^ The only exception would be places like evening cinemas or restaurants where people neither expect nor appreciate screaming infants.

[Ifreann]

Sound-proof helmets, or some other noise cancelling technology. Maybe tuned to cancel out every sound louder than a normal speaking voice. And everyone under the age of, say, seven has to wear it when they leave the house. Then, when they arrive at Kindergarten, school or some other designated zone, they can take them off.

I wonder whether this would actually make kids behave like people more quickly. I am (obviously) not a parent or particularly interested in parenting, but it definitely feels like not very long after they've left the baby stage, kids just go full sociopath. No empathy, no interest in the feelings or needs of other people. Just screaming until they get what they want. But it works - parents find it impossible to ignore, especially in public spaces. So if you put a sound-proof helmet on the kid, they could scream all they want and it won't get them what they want. Instead of learning that by being a dick they get their wishes, they have to learn to communicate and empathise much sooner.

Yeah, yeah, I know. But one can dream, no?

I like the way you think.

[Annar Sjo]

Theatre professional here.

Kids who start screaming at the beginning of Act I and don't let up until after the bows mean that other people don't get the experience they paid for.

I don't think there should be a law, but I personally think where a private institution is providing an experience that includes sound (or lack thereof) it's reasonable for that institution to be able to say "We are not admitting you with a child" and if a person turns up with a child anyway, reject them without a refund.

I have a show going up tomorrow, so I'm a little bit sensitive about this.

[Shaggy Dog Story]

It's not unreasonable for younger people to not be out after certain times. To allow an adult only situation, especially around party districts.

Children on airplanes is always a no no tho.

What do you expect the child to do? Walk?

[Armenian Cilica]

It's not unreasonable for younger people to not be out after certain times. To allow an adult only situation, especially around party districts.

Children on airplanes is always a no no tho.

What do you expect the child to do? Walk?

yes


For cases in formal areas, plays and stuff, just hire a goddamn babysitter. It's not that hard.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

It's not unreasonable for younger people to not be out after certain times. To allow an adult only situation, especially around party districts.

Children on airplanes is always a no no tho.

Don't be silly. Banning people from flying because they have a child? Get a grip. Next thing, you'll be expecting them to ban people because of their religion or point of origin or familial birthplace.

... Wait. >_>

[Infected Mushroom]

Theatre professional here.

Kids who start screaming at the beginning of Act I and don't let up until after the bows mean that other people don't get the experience they paid for.

I don't think there should be a law, but I personally think where a private institution is providing an experience that includes sound (or lack thereof) it's reasonable for that institution to be able to say "We are not admitting you with a child" and if a person turns up with a child anyway, reject them without a refund.

I have a show going up tomorrow, so I'm a little bit sensitive about this.

Indeed (people don't just pay to see the show, they pay to hear the show too and to enjoy the show). Hence parents who bring screaming infants into the theatre are completely irresponsible and should be fined accordingly.

[Idzequitch]

Theatre professional here.

Kids who start screaming at the beginning of Act I and don't let up until after the bows mean that other people don't get the experience they paid for.

I don't think there should be a law, but I personally think where a private institution is providing an experience that includes sound (or lack thereof) it's reasonable for that institution to be able to say "We are not admitting you with a child" and if a person turns up with a child anyway, reject them without a refund.

I have a show going up tomorrow, so I'm a little bit sensitive about this.

Indeed (people don't just pay to see the show, they pay to hear the show too and to enjoy the show). Hence parents who bring screaming infants into the theatre are completely irresponsible and should be fined accordingly.

Or, we could use common sense and they should be escorted out until the child calms down.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Indeed (people don't just pay to see the show, they pay to hear the show too and to enjoy the show). Hence parents who bring screaming infants into the theatre are completely irresponsible and should be fined accordingly.

Or, we could use common sense and they should be escorted out until the child calms down.

Common sense? What's that shit all about?

[Scarlet Tides]

Common sense is for people who actually interact with fellow human beings or management. I don't even know where the OP keeps going that crying babies are so ubiquitous there needs to be fines levied against parents who dare go places with them. Maybe dude works right by a daycare or something.

[Galbeon]

As much as I don't like hearing a kid screaming and crying at the top of their lungs, I don't think parents should be penalized if they do. After all, it isn't them screaming and crying in public, and you shouldn't be penalized for the actions of others. That being said, you can't fine or throw a baby in jail, for obvious reasons. It is an annoyance when they do it, yes. But that is something we learn to live with and move on.

[United Dependencies]

I think the actions that a parent would take should relate to the venue.

While it's certainly annoying to deal with a screaming child, sometimes you just have to go to the grocery store and you can't leave your kid at home. It's also not like they have airplanes and flights that are solely for families and new parents.

Other places parents should be able to take their kid, but they should be quick to leave if the kid starts acting up.

Some places probably shouldn't even allow children under 7-8.

[Novorobo]

Common sense is for people who actually interact with fellow human beings or management. I don't even know where the OP keeps going that crying babies are so ubiquitous there needs to be fines levied against parents who dare go places with them. Maybe dude works right by a daycare or something.

Or an airline...

[Donut section]

It's not unreasonable for younger people to not be out after certain times. To allow an adult only situation, especially around party districts.

Children on airplanes is always a no no tho.

Don't be silly. Banning people from flying because they have a child? Get a grip. Next thing, you'll be expecting them to ban people because of their religion or point of origin or familial birthplace.

... Wait. >_>

Yeah because those things relate to each other.

Adults can fly whenever they want.
You don't get to force children on anyone else though.

[Esternial]

People complaining about everything on public forums? Allowed?

I mean, there's a perfectly functional Tumblr out there...

[Valystria]

It shouldn't be allowed. There ought to be minor fines for it to discourage this frowned-upon and deeply problematic social practice.

[United Sates of Merica]

I say spank the snot out of them, oops I might've hurt someones feeling GUESS WHAT , I DONT CARE, AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

[Esternial]

I say spank the snot out of them, oops I might've hurt someones feeling GUESS WHAT , I DONT CARE, AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA :rofl:

zomg so badass

[Idzequitch]

It shouldn't be allowed. There ought to be minor fines for it to discourage this frowned-upon and deeply problematic social practice.

What on Earth is deeply problematic about it? Are we really going to call a minor inconvenience deeply problematic?

[Idzequitch]

Don't be silly. Banning people from flying because they have a child? Get a grip. Next thing, you'll be expecting them to ban people because of their religion or point of origin or familial birthplace.

... Wait. >_>

Yeah because those things relate to each other.

Adults can fly whenever they want.
You don't get to force children on anyone else though.

So the kids stay home?
I know it's inconvenient, and there's nothing to be done about it in the air, but I'm sorry, just deal with it.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

Don't be silly. Banning people from flying because they have a child? Get a grip. Next thing, you'll be expecting them to ban people because of their religion or point of origin or familial birthplace.

... Wait. >_>

Yeah because those things relate to each other.

Adults can fly whenever they want.
You don't get to force children on anyone else though.

Guess what, sweet cheeks - flying as a family DOES relate to children on planes, and you thinking somehow, they ought to ship the little anklebiters by rail, or stuff them in the storage compartments apparently.

Until you've traveled as a parent with a small child, I can honestly state that you have NO idea the amount of stress they tend to be under when they are the responsible type that do not want to 'force their children' on anyone, but need to fly to get to where they're going. I've seen people come up with apology packs for the folks around them, I've seen parents do everything in their power to be sure their children are calm, entertained, and as unobtrusive as possible, I've experienced the problems first-hand, where my daughter was fine - right until we started to land, and the change in pressure made her ears hurt. And being a small child who did not know how to make her ears pop, nor old enough to chew gum, she cried. And we ended up crying right along with her, trying to help her through it, and comfort her - and quiet her - as best we could.

Just because you don't have kids, or don't want to deal with kids, does not give you the right to dictate to those who do that they cannot travel on certain sorts of conveyances because gods forbid you might be inconvenienced. This is entirely different from people who wantonly subject their bratty little munchkins on the public because they don't give two shits about how they behave. By all means, feel free to point those folks out. But for the most part? It's my experience that parents do not want their little ones screaming or crying or causing a fuss. And they would rather not be bothering you either.

It might behoove all of us to try to not be dicks when we're in public - whether we have kids, or pets, or are just our own obnoxious selves.

[Cymrea]

Your liberty ends where you are inconveniencing, harming and disturbing others.

FTFY. Your inconvenience or disturbance does not end one's liberty. Do you seriously wish to impede the freedoms of others just because you're inconvenienced?