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Postby Novorobo » Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:49 am

Shaggy Dog Story wrote:
Novorobo wrote:How is it not self-explanatory?

Foreigners are going to "continue the species" anyway by having large families; we can embrace immigration of young adults from those families and still not have to worry about any demographic winter. Or if we're worried about the effects of a foreign upbringing on their role in our society, we can adopt kids instead, but adopt them after they are past the infancy stage.

Those adopted children still start as babies. Are.you really suggesting that in order to avoid hearing babies cry we shound start importing teenagers?

"Importing?" Last I checked, they pay their own transportation costs.

In any case, there's more than one reason to do so, and I've since spun this off into its own thread.
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Postby G-Max » Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:57 am

Let the property owner decide.

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Postby Impireacht » Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:23 pm

If you oppress babies, I warn you...
They will stage an armed rebellion.

Only oppress babies if you want to die a horrible, slow death.

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Postby Anollasia » Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:26 pm

As annoying as it is, sometimes babies/infants just cry. And you just can't get them to stop.

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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:31 pm

2. If yes, why? If no... should the law do something about it?

Probably kill them or something, idk.

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Postby Ethane » Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:59 pm

Here's an idea. Considering by the sounds of it, you really don't like babies, maybe you should go somewhere else. They have as much right to be there as you do, and I am always of the belief that if a complainant doesn't like it, they can leave.

What are you suggesting, a house becomes a prison for a baby until it learns to stop crying in public?
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Postby Pope Joan » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:02 pm

Why does this happen so much more often now than it did a generation ago?

Because now we regard spanking as a form of child abuse which can be prosecuted.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014240 ... 1246309702

http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2013/06/psy ... -kids.html
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Postby Ethane » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:05 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Why does this happen so much more often now than it did a generation ago?

Because now we regard spanking as a form of child abuse which can be prosecuted.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014240 ... 1246309702

http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2013/06/psy ... -kids.html

*nods*

Although I always found that to increase the noise level of a screaming infant.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:07 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Why does this happen so much more often now than it did a generation ago?

Because now we regard spanking as a form of child abuse which can be prosecuted.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014240 ... 1246309702

http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2013/06/psy ... -kids.html

You realise we're talking about crying babies, yeah?

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Postby Pope Joan » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:14 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:Why does this happen so much more often now than it did a generation ago?

Because now we regard spanking as a form of child abuse which can be prosecuted.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014240 ... 1246309702

http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2013/06/psy ... -kids.html

You realise we're talking about crying babies, yeah?



I thought I read the word "scream". Crying can be comforted; screaming is a different sort of monster.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:18 pm

Pope Joan wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You realise we're talking about crying babies, yeah?



I thought I read the word "scream". Crying can be comforted; screaming is a different sort of monster.

"babies" was the important part. As in the very small humans that don't have much in the way of means of communication beyond crying just yet.

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Postby UpwardThrust » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:22 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:

I thought I read the word "scream". Crying can be comforted; screaming is a different sort of monster.

"babies" was the important part. As in the very small humans that don't have much in the way of means of communication beyond crying just yet.

Exactly, I mean I am all for correcting the ungrateful self absorbed behavior older children seem to be expressing regularly now but infants behavior is unlikely corrected by anything approaching corporal punishment
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Postby Ethane » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:24 pm

Hey. I could set up a new thread.

Complaining People in Public Spaces? Allowed?
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Postby Valaran » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:25 pm

Ethane wrote:Hey. I could set up a new thread.

Complaining People in Public Spaces? Allowed?



Silly NSG threads? Allowed?
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Postby Ethane » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:25 pm

Valaran wrote:
Ethane wrote:Hey. I could set up a new thread.

Complaining People in Public Spaces? Allowed?



Silly NSG threads? Allowed?

Perfect. Much better.
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Postby Fortitudinem » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:26 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:

I thought I read the word "scream". Crying can be comforted; screaming is a different sort of monster.

"babies" was the important part. As in the very small humans that don't have much in the way of means of communication beyond crying just yet.


Also they're likely not yet to the cognitive stage where they can make sense of things as concepts, and only "understands" things as the sensations they present, not as ideas. (So pain for them could not yet equal punishment or discipline since concepts in general are beyond very small children. It would just be pain. Like kicking a newborn puppy, the child would not understand.)

Personally, I think the obnoxious ones are those forgetting they were once an infant and not the infants themselves. Infants should not be prohibited from acting naturally.
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Postby Valaran » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:26 pm

Ethane wrote:
Valaran wrote:

Silly NSG threads? Allowed?

Perfect. Much better.



Oh no, I like yours just as much c:
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Postby Eahland » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:36 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Why does this happen so much more often now than it did a generation ago?

Because the advent of social media means that any self-centered, entitled twit can plaster their whining about anything that annoys them, no matter how out of touch with reality it may be, over screens across the world.
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Postby Arcipelago » Wed Jun 08, 2016 6:31 pm

Most people feel embarrassed and try to get their child to stop so isn't that punishment enough? Honestly it's not even that disturbing, and the owners of the place could ask them to step outside if it really got to that point.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:04 pm

Arcipelago wrote:Most people feel embarrassed and try to get their child to stop so isn't that punishment enough? Honestly it's not even that disturbing, and the owners of the place could ask them to step outside if it really got to that point.


No. Because some people are utterly without shame or honour. They think only of themselves and their infants. Hence a fine is a necessary deterrent.

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Postby Scarlet Tides » Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:12 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Arcipelago wrote:Most people feel embarrassed and try to get their child to stop so isn't that punishment enough? Honestly it's not even that disturbing, and the owners of the place could ask them to step outside if it really got to that point.


No. Because some people are utterly without shame or honour. They think only of themselves and their infants. Hence a fine is a necessary deterrent.

This thread is like a entire course in thinking only of yourself and ignoring entire demographics of people exist beyond just adults.

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Postby The Constitutional Republic of Freedonia » Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:12 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Arcipelago wrote:Most people feel embarrassed and try to get their child to stop so isn't that punishment enough? Honestly it's not even that disturbing, and the owners of the place could ask them to step outside if it really got to that point.


No. Because some people are utterly without shame or honour. They think only of themselves and their infants. Hence a fine is a necessary deterrent.


A deterrent to ever take their child out in public, ever? To cripple either their wallets or their social lives to protect the sensitive ears of a handful of people?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:41 pm

Scarlet Tides wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
No. Because some people are utterly without shame or honour. They think only of themselves and their infants. Hence a fine is a necessary deterrent.

This thread is like a entire course in thinking only of yourself and ignoring entire demographics of people exist beyond just adults.


that's entirely ridiculous considering that the OP specifically acknowledges the existence of infants

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Postby Scarlet Tides » Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:49 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Scarlet Tides wrote:This thread is like a entire course in thinking only of yourself and ignoring entire demographics of people exist beyond just adults.


that's entirely ridiculous considering that the OP specifically acknowledges the existence of infants

As much as to say they should only exist in a house and not brought outside lest you be disturbed. Boo hoo. Real baby is you. Stay home.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:01 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:Because some people are utterly without shame or honour.

Brace yourselves.

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