Screaming Infants in Public Spaces? Allowed?

[Vulkata]

Should've told me that before i threw rage and shits to everyone else

Actually, multiple people have tried to tell you that.

You might get reported now, just so you know. Cause things like death threats ain't kosher here.

I didn't see that but i checked yep I'm sorry for that.

I'm just going to ignore this thread for a while

[Albertae]

I want to stab you, take away all of the evidence and then burn your body bag with a molotov and bury you.

What if the baby needs hospital help? What if the baby just came out of the womb? Where the fuck does it go FUCKING WHERE!!!!!

Even kinkier. OwO

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[Crurnlark]

Yes, because babies cry at the same decibel level as a tank engine.

Give me a break.

At 120 decibels a shrieking infant is halfway between a tank idling and a machine-gun.

The decibel system is a logarithmic scale. 130 on this scale is 10 times louder than 120.

[Novorobo]

I mean if the baby is interrupting in a place that is supposed to be quiet, normally people would just pick up and take the infant out. Or you can complain to the manager and they can ask that the family remove the infant.

Some rude parents just don't though and I wish that were the case when we took in a movie this previous weekend. Someone had a small child and it started wailing, after about a few minutes of that and no sign of it stopping, other people were starting to suggest that it would be best to leave, only to hear the mother say out loud "fuck off I want to see this here movie"

I just find it rude and it obviously inconvenienced the other movie goers.

Then the question becomes who employees would have been expected to side with as per cinema policy and why.

[Xyprims]

Im not advocating ban on crying children! Im advocating parents taking action when their children cry.

Yeah, sure. That's why you have repeatedly supported fines against parents for having crying children.

I DONT support that either you must be confusing me never did I write such a thing or even write the word fine.

[New haven america]

Even kinkier. OwO

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[Wallenburg]

Yeah, sure. That's why you have repeatedly supported fines against parents for having crying children.

I DONT support that either you must be confusing me never did I write such a thing or even write the word fine.

Oh, sorry. I was mistaken. I was under the impression that you agreed with the OP.

[Arlathan and the Dales]

Im not advocating ban on crying children! Im advocating parents taking action when their children cry.

Which can be done inside a restaurant. Can they take them outside if it seems the child isn't calming down easily? Of course. You can't force them to do this however because you personally find it annoying. It would be the courteous thing to do, sure. They have no obligation to you however.

[Kazarogkai]

I think we already have a law against this called disturbing the peace which if the kid was bad enough would be warranted. Anyhow I wouldn't call for making a specific fine for it but if say a little s*** was screaming it's head off and the parents refused to do anything about it the private establishment in question should be allowed to kick them out if they want to. This on the otherhand should not apply in public places, like say parks, where they have every right to be if they wish being that it is is a public place open to all.

If there is any merit to this policy this along with other measures can form a part of a general anti-natalist policy to discourage population growth. Rather than having the law ban people from having more kids(one child policy) instead make it so that it so inconvenient to have kids(no marriage benefits, no child tax credits, public school option only, extra taxes, etc) that most people just would not bother. It's a possibility.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

Infants scream, they can't help it. But parents don't have to bring them outside to disrupt other people at restaurants, public transit, or movie theatres. That is just being irresponsible and selfish. There is no denying that the sound of screaming babies, especially over a sustained time period, is overbearingly obnoxious.

1. Should parents bring screaming infants into public spaces where others are trying to have a good time?

2. If yes, why? If no... should the law do something about it?

Personally, I think there should be a fine imposed on those who don't care about others and bring screaming infants into movie theatres, restaurants, and public transit. Your liberty ends where you are inconveniencing, harming, and disturbing others.

What do you think?

I still think there ought to be a rule about IM posting these ridiculous topics, but hey.

Now for the talking point: You can't fine people for a baby having a meltdown. There is no way this can be done fairly, or legally. All y'all were kids once, and probably annoyed the absolute fuck outta the people around you. Who's the adult? Who's better able to control their emotions? Yeah, you. The one rolling their eyes and getting pissy about the audacity of people letting their crotchfruit out in public. The utter gaul. How dare they operate with the same rights as you.

(Please note the term 'you' is meant in a general sense here, not directed at any poster in particular in this thread, or others. No direct relation to any poster real or imagined is implied, nor should any one poster take these scenarios or comments to be talking about them, even indirectly. These are completely neutral, and non-directed statements. This caveat is brought to you today by the letter C - as in Cover-Your-Ass: an increasingly must-have in today's posting environment for some.)

I don't think people should bring small children to movies and the like because they aren't old enough for it, the loud noise is not good for them, it does upset them, and everyone else shouldn't be paying for the parent's lack of responsibility or not wanting to get a babysitter.

Restaurants, depends. 5-star whooptydoo ones, probably not the place for it. But for many people, mealtime is family time. It's something they've a right to do, and welp, public. Deal with it.

For the parents? I feel it is our responsibility to try and raise our kids to behave better in public. It isn't a guarantee, even the best parents can have kids who act rotten now and then, and if that situation arises, it's our responsibility to deal with it appropriately. This doesn't mean to let them scream, and ignore it while they kick and have a fit in the corner. This doesn't mean let them run wild, and annoy other people. Noises? Kids will make them. It's part of being kids. But the outright temper tantrums and all? Take the kid out of the area. Remove them from the restaurant, the store, the whatever. Take them out to the car if you need to, and talk to them there (no, don't leave them, obviously).

But no, overall? Unless the child is at risk, is being abused, or wantonly neglected - no law enforcement needed. And no pointless, unhelpful snarkery from the childless masses, either. If you don't know exactly what's going on with said child, or the family in question, what started the crying or behavior that's bothering you, whether or not there are any extenuating issues? No one needs to hear you mouth off about it and make an ass of yourself. Frankly, that sort of shit bothers me about as much as a shrieking-for-no-reason-and-parents-do-nothing-about-it kid, if not more so.

[New Axiom]

Dude, really!? So you just think it's a good idea for parents to leave their little baby home all the time? How would you like to not go to mcdonalds for three years?

[Vulkata]

Dude, really!? So you just think it's a good idea for parents to leave their little baby home all the time? How would you like to not go to mcdonalds for three years?

I'd feel pretty fine

[Giovenith]

Dude, really!? So you just think it's a good idea for parents to leave their little baby home all the time? How would you like to not go to mcdonalds for three years?

McDonalds probably isn't the best example for your point.

[Europe and Oceania]

Infants scream, they can't help it. But parents don't have to bring them outside to disrupt other people at restaurants, public transit, or movie theatres. That is just being irresponsible and selfish. There is no denying that the sound of screaming babies, especially over a sustained time period, is overbearingly obnoxious.

1. Should parents bring screaming infants into public spaces where others are trying to have a good time?

2. If yes, why? If no... should the law do something about it?

Personally, I think there should be a fine imposed on those who don't care about others and bring screaming infants into movie theatres, restaurants, and public transit. Your liberty ends where you are inconveniencing, harming, and disturbing others.

What do you think?

I still think there ought to be a rule about IM posting these ridiculous topics, but hey.

lol True.

How about imposing a fine on people who easily get annoyed by things? lol xD

[Vulkata]

I still think there ought to be a rule about IM posting these ridiculous topics, but hey.

lol True.

How about imposing a fine on people who easily get annoyed by things? lol xD

Inflation would happen really

[Europe and Oceania]

I still think there ought to be a rule about IM posting these ridiculous topics, but hey.

lol True.

How about imposing a fine on people who easily get annoyed by things? lol xD

Inflation would happen really

My apologies for the quote error. I edited it.

[Saiwania]

While it might be irritating, that is life. It is okay provided someone has to accompany their infant and they couldn't get a babysitter or whatever. But I'd say it is less socially acceptable if it is in an optional place such as a restaurant or movie theater. If I have a baby to look after, I simply wouldn't ever go out to these places unless I have someone to watch them elsewhere or I wait until they're old enough to behave such as 6 years old or so.

[The East Marches]

Pro-tip: Babies tend to cry

It's a bit ridiculous to fine somebody for bringing a baby out in public. To paraphrase something I read "Baby is complex object". Like anything complex, things go wrong.

[Infected Mushroom]

While it might be irritating, that is life. It is okay provided someone has to accompany their infant and they couldn't get a babysitter or whatever. But I'd say it is less socially acceptable if it is in an optional place such as a restaurant or movie theater. If I have a baby to look after, I simply wouldn't ever go out to these places unless I have someone to watch them elsewhere or I wait until they're old enough to behave such as 6 years old or so.

hence why a fine ought to be imposed to make sure people are responsible

[The Constitutional Republic of Freedonia]

While it might be irritating, that is life. It is okay provided someone has to accompany their infant and they couldn't get a babysitter or whatever. But I'd say it is less socially acceptable if it is in an optional place such as a restaurant or movie theater. If I have a baby to look after, I simply wouldn't ever go out to these places unless I have someone to watch them elsewhere or I wait until they're old enough to behave such as 6 years old or so.

hence why a fine ought to be imposed to make sure people are responsible

So if you do not have enough money to hire a babysitter, we fine you, so you definitely do not have enough money to hire a babysitter. Seems fair.

[Ethel mermania]

Infants scream, they can't help it. But parents don't have to bring them outside to disrupt other people at restaurants, public transit, or movie theatres. That is just being irresponsible and selfish. There is no denying that the sound of screaming babies, especially over a sustained time period, is overbearingly obnoxious.

1. Should parents bring screaming infants into public spaces where others are trying to have a good time?

2. If yes, why? If no... should the law do something about it?

Personally, I think there should be a fine imposed on those who don't care about others and bring screaming infants into movie theatres, restaurants, and public transit. Your liberty ends where you are inconveniencing, harming, and disturbing others.

What do you think?

People who complain about babies making noise should be forced to work in daycare and wear diapers so they can understand the experience better

[Alvecia]

It's kind of like having a tree in your garden. Then geting fined because in the autumn some of the leaves fell into your neighbour's garden and they got annoyed.

[Grinstead]

Can't you plug earphones in or something? Like if it was on private property the property owner would have every right to physically remove the child, but public property not so much.

[Minzerland]

Muzzle the little fuck!!1!

[Imperializt Russia]

The hell is wrong with some of you people?

The baby screams cause something is troubling them(and my mom said i keep crying when i hear loud noises like traffic), just calm the baby down.

except some infants are just completely unreasonable, and the parents should know better than to bring them to a public place where they will cause disruption against other members of the public who have been paying to enjoy certain services such as at restaurants and movie theatres

No one is faulting the infants, its the fault of the parents

Those people can get fucked and deal with it. It's a baby. The mother isn't exactly happy about that either. She's sorry.

What more do you want?
I know what you want, but you're inherently unreasonable. You're a meme.