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Is Australian Tourism more important than Climate Change?

Postby Cetacea » Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:22 pm

Is Australian Tourism more important than Climate Change?

The “World Heritage and Tourism in a Changing Climate” Report was jointly published by Unesco, the United Nations environment program and the Union of Concerned Scientists last week describing sites around the world at risk from climate change
The new report lists 31 natural and cultural World Heritage sites in 29 countries that are vulnerable to increasing temperatures, melting glaciers, rising seas, intensifying weather events, worsening droughts and longer wildfire seasons. Mechtild Rössler, Director of UNESCO’s World Heritage Centre said “As the report’s findings underscore, achieving the Paris Agreement’s goal of limiting global temperature rise to a level well below 2 degrees Celsius is vitally important to protecting our World Heritage for current and future generations.”

However while the report discusses a variety of sites including Venice, Stonehenge,the Galápagos Islands, the city of Cartagena, the Easter Island statues and coral reefs in New Caledonia, it does NOT mention the worlds largest living colony (the Great Barrier Reef) or anything else to do with Australia because all mentions of Australia were removed from the final version of the report after the Australian government objected on the grounds it could impact on tourism.
The removal has left Australia as the only inhabited continent on the planet with no mentions.
The news comes less than a year after the Australian government successfully lobbied Unesco to not list the Great Barrier Reef in its list of “World Heritage Sites in Danger”

A spokesperson for the Australian environment department said “Recent experience in Australia had shown that negative commentary about the status of world heritage properties impacted on tourism.”

However the Great Barrier Reef is in crisis with 93% of the reefs experience bleaching due to warmer than usual water and increase UV. Coral that remains bleached for long periods dies and In the northern most pristine part, scientists think half the coral is already dead.

It is absolutely criminal that the Australian government is trying to cover up the reality of the environmental degradation occurring in its territory because of a need for short term gain. Its even more terrifying when you account for the fact that Australia has one of the highest per capita emissions of carbon dioxide in the world and is still a major producer of coal and coal generated electricity.

So what say you NSG?

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:28 pm

I would have thought this sort of thing would increase tourism, if anything. "Come see the Great Barrier Reef while you can!"

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Postby Zoice » Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:33 pm

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Postby Valaran » Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:36 pm

I'm surprised Australia had the influence to get its way. That sets a bad precedent...
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Postby The Patriotic States » Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:37 pm

Ifreann wrote:I would have thought this sort of thing would increase tourism, if anything. "Come see the Great Barrier Reef while you can!"


Same up here in Alaska. I spent a year working at Glacier National Park before I got a job as a high school teacher. Damn, lots of tourists came specifically because they didn't know how long the scenery would last.
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Postby Odalfolk » Fri Jun 03, 2016 4:59 pm

No. Protecting the environment > tourism.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Fri Jun 03, 2016 5:28 pm

Can't say I'm surprised. If we were generally capable of realizing that grabbing all the immediate money we can means that we'll destroy the source of that income down the line, we'd already be well on our way out of this mess.
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Postby Rio Cana » Fri Jun 03, 2016 5:41 pm

So will the Australian Eastern coast be hit by erosion once the Coral reef is no longer around to protect the coast.

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Postby Risottia » Sat Jun 04, 2016 1:56 am

Odalfolk wrote:No. Protecting the environment > tourism.

Actually, protecting the environment => tourism, because who wants to visit a polluted desert, a sea without life...
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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Jun 04, 2016 2:19 am

I don't know why Australia thought being mentioned in this report would affect tourism enough to be worth bothering about it.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:45 am

Both are important. Combating climate change will save some of those sites, and tourism will still benefit as a result.
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Postby Zara10 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:35 am

Odalfolk wrote:No. Protecting the environment >Conejo Tourism.


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The growing international awareness about the fast pace of climate change taking place on our ‎planet, together with the impacts that such ‎changes are having on the natural environment, on ‎humans and their ‎economic activities have become evident.
For tourism, climate change is not a remote event, but a phenomenon ‎that already affects the ‎sector and certain destinations in particular, ‎mountain regions and coastal destinations among ‎others. At the same ‎time, the tourism sector is contributing to greenhouse gas emissions ‎‎‎(GHG), especially through the transport of tourists.‎ ‎
The impacts of climate change

Climate is an essential resource for tourism, and especially for the ‎beach, nature and winter ‎sport tourism segments. Changing climate and ‎weather patterns at tourist destinations and ‎tourist generating countries ‎can significantly affect the tourists’ comfort and their travel ‎decisions. ‎Changing demand patterns and tourist flows will have impacts on tourism ‎businesses ‎and on host communities, as well as knock off effects on ‎related sectors, such as agriculture, ‎handicrafts or construction.
In small island states and developing countries, where tourism is a major ‎economic activity, any ‎significant reduction in tourist arrivals will have ‎serious employment impacts and generate ‎further poverty.‎ ‎

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Postby Cedoria » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:39 am

Since Climate Change will destroy the Reef if not dealt with, it seems like this is a silly question. The tourist industry will be ENORMOUSLY affected in a negative way if our present slide to the precipice continues.
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Postby Donut section » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:59 am

If we would stop pissy around trying to save the environment and work out how to replace the environment we could get rid of that hunk of coral and we can put some decent ports up there.

Trans shipping and research jobs > tourism jobs

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Postby Dahon » Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:29 am

Donut section wrote:If we would stop pissy around trying to save the environment and work out how to replace the environment we could get rid of that hunk of coral and we can put some decent ports up there.

Trans shipping and research jobs > tourism jobs


-- and then when the world's oceans are as dead as dishwater, when all one can show you when he talks of "fish" is a badly-smudged picture of one, that's... oh fuck.

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Postby Frank Zipper » Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:33 am

Is recycling old threads going to help?
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Postby Lisianski » Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:58 am

im boycotting australia due to this
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Postby USS Monitor » Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:13 am

Frank Zipper wrote:Is recycling old threads going to help?


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