Forced Gun Carrying for people over 21?

[New Axiom]

In communities where people are allowed, even forced, to carry guns, crime rates are significantly lowered, becuase if Burglar Joe breaks into your house, you can just unload yer nine mil into him. Plus, if Joe shoots at you, your neighbors can shoot Joe for you. So, why doesn't the government force everyone over age 21 to carry a weapon?

Here's a link to a town that does have mandatory ownership laws, and look at the crime rate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennesaw,_Georgia

Thoughts, NSG?

[Washington Resistance Army]

I agree with this idea entirely. All citizens should be mandated to carry select fire weaponry for the ultimate self defense tool.

[Mefpan]

No. I'm a civilian. I don't particularly care to be armed. I don't give a flying fuck about this gung-ho cowboy wild west bullshit.

[Eol Sha]

No. I'm a civilian. I don't particularly care to be armed. I don't give a flying fuck about this gung-ho cowboy wild west bullshit.

Personally, I want to own a firearm or two when I get older (antique rifles), but I don't think anyone should be forced to carry a weapon. Especially since many of those who wouldn't be in possession of a firearm otherwise probably won't take the time to learn proper gun safety methods.

In short, this is a dumb idea that infringes on the personal liberties of American citizens.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

Forcing every adult citizen to carry a gun in order to deal with crime is equivalent to cutting off a toe to cure a hangnail.

[Eastern Equestria]

In communities where people are allowed, even forced, to carry guns, crime rates are significantly lowered, becuase if Burglar Joe breaks into your house, you can just unload yer nine mil into him. Plus, if Joe shoots at you, your neighbors can shoot Joe for you. So, why doesn't the government force everyone over age 21 to carry a weapon?

Thoughts, NSG?

When people here make claims such as these, they're typically expected to back them up with evidence. So where's yours?

[-Rumania]

In communities where people are allowed, even forced, to carry guns, crime rates are significantly lowered, becuase if Burglar Joe breaks into your house, you can just unload yer nine mil into him. Plus, if Joe shoots at you, your neighbors can shoot Joe for you. So, why doesn't the government force everyone over age 21 to carry a weapon?

Thoughts, NSG?

What are your examples of communities where people are 'forced' to carry guns? And where is your source for your claim that crime rates are significantly lowered?

[Lancaster of Wessex]

Yes, so your country can have countless more accidental shootings and killings.
Terrible idea. This American obsession (that many have, not all) with guns and arms is absolutely mind-boggling.

[Washington Resistance Army]

In communities where people are allowed, even forced, to carry guns, crime rates are significantly lowered, becuase if Burglar Joe breaks into your house, you can just unload yer nine mil into him. Plus, if Joe shoots at you, your neighbors can shoot Joe for you. So, why doesn't the government force everyone over age 21 to carry a weapon?

Thoughts, NSG?

When people here make claims such as these, they're typically expected to back them up with evidence. So where's yours?

He's probably talking about Kennesaw, Georgia. The town made it law for each house to have at least one gun and ammo for it, crime rates dropped a lot IIRC.

[Ghuraba Al-Khorusani]

I'd recommend carrying a gun but not forcing

[Washington Resistance Army]

In all seriousness this is a bad idea, let people who want to carry be able to but don't force anyone.

[The East Marches]

While I support gun rights wholeheartedly, the right to choose not to own a gun exists as well. It would be fundamentally reducing people's liberty by making them own one. Just as they taking my right to own one would be reducing my liberty as well.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

When people here make claims such as these, they're typically expected to back them up with evidence. So where's yours?

He's probably talking about Kennesaw, Georgia. The town made it law for each house to have at least one gun and ammo for it, crime rates dropped a lot IIRC.

Kennesaw and Cobb County in general is pretty well-off - it didn't exactly have much crime (comparatively speaking) to begin with.

[Ghuraba Al-Khorusani]

While I support gun rights wholeheartedly, the right to choose not to own a gun exists as well. It would be fundamentally reducing people's liberty by making them own one. Just as they taking my right to own one would be reducing my liberty as well.

Yeah

[Washington Resistance Army]

He's probably talking about Kennesaw, Georgia. The town made it law for each house to have at least one gun and ammo for it, crime rates dropped a lot IIRC.

Kennesaw and Cobb County in general is pretty well-off - it didn't exactly have much crime (comparatively speaking) to begin with.

True, I'm not even sure the drop was entirely because of the law.

Really we should just pass federal carry laws and leave it at that, people like me who want to carry will and people who don't will be free not to.

[The Romulan Republic]

I guess the Right wing gun nut crowd isn't really about individual rights or preserving freedom. Its about forcing their views on everyone else, and propagating their death cult.

[Costa Fierro]

I wouldn't trust 99% of Americans to act responsibly with a box of crayons.

[Noraika]

I'd rather hand over my purse, and both me and the thief walk away with out lives, back to our families and friends, than pull a gun or knife, and escalate the situation, which could end with either of us being injured or killed, and devastating our family and friends in the process. Same with a burglars, if anything, I'd rather they be arrested later, after having robbed my, than be dead.
In general, people who commit those crimes do not want to hurt anyone to begin with.

A more productive thing to do, in my opinion, is to address the reason why these crimes are committed in the first place, which is economic desperation and need. People have themselves and their families to provide for, and economic desperation can push them to commit illegal actions to survive. I'm inclined to think such a policy, of addressing the problem at its source, is much more effective at ensuring people feel safe than a firearm.

As for firearms, I personally don't even think the police should be armed with them outside of specialists, so I don't support civilians having access to firearms of any sort.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I guess the Right wing gun nut crowd isn't really about individual rights or preserving freedom. Its about forcing their views on everyone else, and propagating their death cult.

>implying all gun nuts are right wing

And death cult? Really?

[Lancaster of Wessex]

I guess the Right wing gun nut crowd isn't really about individual rights or preserving freedom. Its about forcing their views on everyone else, and propagating their death cult.

>implying all gun nuts are right wing

And death cult? Really?

Guns were invented, and are manufactured, for one main purpose (aside from hunting and farming): killing human beings.

Death cult is a very apt term.

[Washington Resistance Army]

>implying all gun nuts are right wing

And death cult? Really?

Guns were invented, and are manufactured, for one main purpose (aside from hunting and farming): killing human beings.

Death cult is a very apt term.

I guess I and tens of millions of Americans are using our guns wrong.

[United Marxist Nations]

I guess the Right wing gun nut crowd isn't really about individual rights or preserving freedom. Its about forcing their views on everyone else, and propagating their death cult.

Death Cult, you say?

[New confederate ramenia]

I support gun rights, but I don't personally own any guns and I don't think you should be forced to if you aren't in the military, police or some sort of militia.

[Eastern Equestria]

When people here make claims such as these, they're typically expected to back them up with evidence. So where's yours?

He's probably talking about Kennesaw, Georgia. The town made it law for each house to have at least one gun and ammo for it, crime rates dropped a lot IIRC.

That's interesting, but I don't believe it's safe to extrapolate the results from this one instance onto a larger scale without first analyzing all the factors that made it successful in Kennesaw. Factors such as average income, unemployment rate, the general attitude towards firearms, and other socioeconomic conditions that vary from place to place and which could effect the efficacy of such a law. I don't know much about Kennesaw, but I'm guessing that had this passed in a major urban center instead of a relatively well-off suburb, things wouldn't have turned out so smoothly. Also, this whole "forcing citizens to buy such and such" kinda flies in the face of libertarian/conservative dogma. "Obamacare forcing us to buy healthcare is wrong, but this new law that forces every citizen that doesn't have a gun to get one is totally for the collective good of society!" Yeah, ok pal.

[Rusozak]

Here's the thing about armed civilians, they lack proper training. A split second decision can mean life or death for an innocent bystander. Take the example gun lobbyists push that school shootings can be solved by arming people. You're the "good guy a gun" searching the halls for the bad guy. Someone darts across. You get startled and shoot. Congratulations, you just killed a student.