What's your deviation?

[United Marxist Nations]

I don't know enough about Sanders' policies to know if this means that you are pro-or-anti-gun control.


You have "#Feel the Johnson" in your sig, I have a feeling you're being more than a bit facetious.

In comparison to Sanders, I am more pro-gun. However, in comparison to the "right wing" of the issue, I am anti-gun. The NRA might give me like a C, while Sanders gets a D.

At the risk of getting into gun-thread territory, what specifically would you be considered "anti-gun" on?

[Europe and Oceania]

In comparison to Sanders, I am more pro-gun. However, in comparison to the "right wing" of the issue, I am anti-gun. The NRA might give me like a C, while Sanders gets a D.

At the risk of getting into gun-thread territory, what specifically would you be considered "anti-gun" on?

I believe all guns should be banned from civilian use except for hunting purposes.

Instead encourage and offer the alternative of using Tasers/Stun Guns for self-defense.

Like the X26 Taser that has 15 foot range and after shooting it you can use it as contact stun gun.

Like these: https://buy.taser.com/collections/weapo ... 1042167993

Or the X2 Taser Gun which has 2 shots and then it can still used as a contact Stun Gun afterwards:
https://buy.taser.com/collections/weapo ... 7061348423

[Lavan Tiri]

99% of the time, I'm very libertarian (do whatever you want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone besides you.) I support laws that ban smoking in public--or in general, really, because smoking inside your house also hurts whoever's inside--as well as anti-marijuana laws, but that's for personal reasons, not political.

Really, the only major deviation is abortion: I see it as, you made the decision to have unprotected sex, you live with the consequences. Of course, if you were raped, it's fine by me, as is abortion for incest or if your life is in danger. And this anti-abortion-ness is only past a certain point. Before then, yeah, okay.

So there.

[Sack Jackpot Winners]

At the risk of getting into gun-thread territory, what specifically would you be considered "anti-gun" on?

I believe all guns should be banned from civilian use except for hunting purposes.

Instead encourage and offer the alternative of using Tasers/Stun Guns for self-defense.

Like the X26 Taser that has 15 foot range and after shooting it you can use it as contact stun gun.

Like these: https://buy.taser.com/collections/weapo ... 1042167993

Or the X2 Taser Gun which has 2 shots and then it can still used as a contact Stun Gun afterwards:
https://buy.taser.com/collections/weapo ... 7061348423

I am a prolific gun user for both sport and home defense, and tasers only work for a certain point. You don't point it at a bad guy as a threat until a gun which could back someone down (as most tasers are one shot and if you don't hit the right place ineffective). Plus, guns are awesome. I know, personal rather than political, but hey.

It's quite the deviation from the standard American political spectrum, considering some 90% of people here are either Conservatives, Liberals, or Moderates.

I assumed that I was deviating from what is standard according to my political ideology.

So I ask NSG, what is your general affiliation (liberal, conservative, anarchist, fascist, communist, etc) and what are your deviations from that ideology?

Can you back that up?

Are you talking to me or...?

[Europe and Oceania]

I believe all guns should be banned from civilian use except for hunting purposes.

Instead encourage and offer the alternative of using Tasers/Stun Guns for self-defense.

Like the X26 Taser that has 15 foot range and after shooting it you can use it as contact stun gun.

Like these: https://buy.taser.com/collections/weapo ... 1042167993

Or the X2 Taser Gun which has 2 shots and then it can still used as a contact Stun Gun afterwards:
https://buy.taser.com/collections/weapo ... 7061348423

I am a prolific gun user for both sport and home defense, and tasers only work for a certain point. You don't point it at a bad guy as a threat until a gun which could back someone down (as most tasers are one shot and if you don't hit the right place ineffective). Plus, guns are awesome. I know, personal rather than political, but hey.

The X2 Taser gun has 2 shots which is cool.

I acknowledge and respect your opinion comrade.

[USS Monitor]

I'm having a hard time answering this because I am not sure what to say is my "general affiliation." I am pretty consistently left-libertarian, but I live in a country that does not have any party with that ideology that is even viable enough to get on the ballots.

[Meryuma]

So I'm a card-carrying social anarchist - anti-state, anti-capital and pro-social justice. But I'm not vegan or vegetarian (unlike many) and not an atheist (unlike most). I also think black blocs are really played out and that it's basically just ego stroking to act like it's somehow subversive to not vote.

[USS Monitor]

So I'm a card-carrying social anarchist - anti-state, anti-capital and pro-social justice. But I'm not vegan or vegetarian (unlike many) and not an atheist (unlike most). I also think black blocs are really played out and that it's basically just ego stroking to act like it's somehow subversive to not vote.

Not voting just lets other people make all the decisions.

[Teemant]

I'm liberal conservative.

[Kingdom of United Anarchist Communities]

I'm extremely Anarcho-Capitalistic, but I deviate in that I also believe in absolute draconian laws to protect the environment.

Edit: And animal and child protection laws

[Spiffier]

I'm an absolute monarchist, and I support communitarianism sort of socialism (but that is because we have a very different economic set up today than a thousand years ago).

[Sociopia]

I'm liberal on pretty much everything except for capital punishment and "Stand Your Ground" laws...

Judging by your other beliefs, there is no deviation at all there. That's called being your average leftist authoritarian, nothing out of the ordinary there.

[USS Monitor]

I'm liberal on pretty much everything except for capital punishment and "Stand Your Ground" laws...

Judging by your other beliefs, there is no deviation at all there. That's called being your average leftist authoritarian, nothing out of the ordinary there.

Stand Your Ground is not leftist or authoritarian.

[Sack Jackpot Winners]

Judging by your other beliefs, there is no deviation at all there. That's called being your average leftist authoritarian, nothing out of the ordinary there.

Stand Your Ground is not leftist or authoritarian.

And American liberals tend to be more anti-capital punishment. Not following Sociopia at all.

[Grinstead]

I am a prolific gun user for both sport and home defense, and tasers only work for a certain point. You don't point it at a bad guy as a threat until a gun which could back someone down (as most tasers are one shot and if you don't hit the right place ineffective). Plus, guns are awesome. I know, personal rather than political, but hey.

The X2 Taser gun has 2 shots which is cool.

I acknowledge and respect your opinion comrade.

Oh wow it has two shots we're so safe.

[USS Monitor]

Stand Your Ground is not leftist or authoritarian.

And American liberals tend to be more anti-capital punishment. Not following Sociopia at all.

Capital punishment is authoritarian, though, so it does fit with "leftist authoritarian."

[Sociopia]

Stand Your Ground is not leftist or authoritarian.

And American liberals tend to be more anti-capital punishment. Not following Sociopia at all.

1. I will give it to them for stand your ground. That is very out of place considering their other beliefs.
2. It is not uncommon for totalitarian regimes left and right to kill their own citizens, as well as employing other tactics this individuals supports such as the disarming of populace and suppression of political dissidents.

[Minzerland]

I'm pretty left-leaning from the centre on almost everything, a bit on the right when talking of Immigration and Multiculturalism.

I'm a Classic Libertarian, Constitutional Monarchist, supporter of Laissez-faire Capitalism with a few regulations - a bit contradictory but Meh -, egalitarian, Anti-Feminism, Anti-Pc, Anti-SJW, Anti-Multiculturalism.

[Lady Scylla]

I've noticed that many politicians are pretty hard line "conservative" or "liberal" on most issues. Naturally this doesn't reflect people (and therefore voters), who can be varied on many issues but still identify as a liberal/conservative. Although politicians seem to be putting on a face by being along ideological lines on most issues but holding a few contradicting views close, the average person has a palette of ideals that they can afford to share.

So I ask NSG, what is your general affiliation (liberal, conservative, anarchist, fascist, communist, etc) and what are your deviations from that ideology? For sake of clarity, I will go first.

I'm generally conservative, but am more liberal on immigration and the environment. I'm much more for open immigration when a country could support it (like the United States) and though I despise the corrupt EPA and more non-governmental environmental organizations, I am very adamants about being a responsible keeper of earth and it's resources.

I consider myself a centrist, which most people will associate with taking the middle ground on everything. Which isn't entirely true. I favour pragmatism or more aptly defined, realpolitik. Depending on the issue, I may lean liberally or conservatively but not so far either way where it borders the extreme. I'm naturally disillusioned with ideologues, and people who make decisions because of ideology. I'm typically more reserved and patient, and would rather assess sides of an issue without any bias where time allows.

[MERIZoC]

So I'm a card-carrying social anarchist - anti-state, anti-capital and pro-social justice. But I'm not vegan or vegetarian (unlike many) and not an atheist (unlike most). I also think black blocs are really played out and that it's basically just ego stroking to act like it's somehow subversive to not vote.

We get cards? Well shit, someone's holding out on me.

[Europe and Oceania]

And American liberals tend to be more anti-capital punishment. Not following Sociopia at all.

1. I will give it to them for stand your ground. That is very out of place considering their other beliefs.
2. It is not uncommon for totalitarian regimes left and right to kill their own citizens, as well as employing other tactics this individuals supports such as the disarming of populace and suppression of political dissidents.

"Disarming the populace" does not always = authoritarian state. There are lots of countries that have "disarmed the populace" and are not
authoritarian.

The United Kingdom being a prime example.
U.K.
"Members of the public may own sporting rifles and shotguns, subject to licensing, but handguns were effectively banned after the Dunblane school massacre in 1996. Dunblane was the UK's first and only school shooting."
" The United Kingdom has one of the lowest rates of gun homicides in the world. There were 0.05 recorded intentional homicides committed with a firearm per 100,000 inhabitants in the five years to 2011 (15 to 38 people per annum)."

South Korea
"South Korea has one of the most restrictive gun policies in the developed world. Hunting and sporting licenses are issued, but any firearm used in these circumstances must be stored at a local police station. Violation of firearms law can result in a $(US)18,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison. Even possessing a toy gun that resembles a real gun is strictly prohibited"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_ ... _by_nation

France
"In France, to buy a firearm, a hunting licence or a shooting sport license is necessary."

The Netherlands
"In the Netherlands, gun ownership is restricted to law enforcement, hunters, and target shooters. Self-defense is not a valid reason to own guns. To obtain a hunting license one must pass a hunters safety course. To get one for target shooting, one must be a member of a shooting club for a year. People with felonies, drug addictions, and mental illnesses may not possess any firearms."

Spain
"In Spain the regulation of weapons (firearms, airguns, knives etc) in Spain is very restrictive with extensive controls and prohibitions. Firearm ownership is limited to hunting and sporting, each requiring a license. To acquire a license it is necessary to pass a police background check, physiological and medical test, and pass a practical and theoretical exam."
^^ Spain's gun policies are perfect. That's how I would regulate firearms.

Japan
" In Japan The weapons law begins by stating "No one shall possess a firearm or firearms or a sword or swords", and very few exceptions are allowed. However, citizens are permitted to possess firearms for hunting and sport shooting, but only after submitting to a lengthy licensing procedure."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_ ... _by_nation

Guns only or primarily legal for hunting and sports purposes does not always = authoritarian state.

[Socialist Tera]

Maoist but I don't really pay attention to gender identity politics anymore. It's not my area, I support trans people but I don't consider it class struggle. I also separate myself from SJW, I would prefer proper action.

[Ragnarum]

I am very libertarian socially and I put great emphasis on personal responsibility and choice. For example, I believe in the legalisation of all drugs, not just because I see it as down to the individual, but I have concluded that it is also a more practical way of handling drug problems in society. However, I deviate from the usually libertarian ideal by believing the government should then monopolize the industry and production of said drugs. Also, the allowance of public ownership or firearms - for self defence and national defence.

I believe the rights of the individual are most important, but the collective is a far more productive entity overall, and it should be strived for. Capitalism is an excellent system for acquiring what a nation needs most, but people need looking after as well, and sometimes businesses need direction to achieve aims properly. I believe that education should give people a common national identity and a sense of patriotism. I think a government should prioritise its own citizens over anything or anyone else (within reason of course). The government should maintain a strong military and should be prepared to use it on a whim, and national service should be a thing. I believe treason and terrorism should be the only crimes that carry the death penalty.
Democracy is a great system for all its faults, but sometimes it must be overridden.

This is just to name some of it. There is a lot more I would like to elaborate on, but as you can see - there is more deviance from any particular ideology than similarities with any single one.

[Urmanian]

I am full libertarian/ancap but I'm extremely liberal and pro-"degeneracy" on social issues while most libertarians these days seem to increasingly fall with the reactionary alt-right scene.

Sometimes I just wish I was a communist or something.

[Blakullar]

I often refer to myself as a Stalinist (mostly to annoy fellow leftists), but I'm actually more of a utilitarian Leninist, so that fits me well within the socialist camp. Socially, however, I verge more toward the centre-ground and even a little to the right in some areas (immigration, for instance).

Nuclear weapons and energy is another matter where I diverge quite considerably from the rest of the left, regarding the former as a necessary evil (at least until we can get a better deterrent, and flowers and chocolate do not count as a deterrent!!!!!! ) and the latter as an absolute must-have.