Right-Wing Discussion Thread Part Two

[Zoice]

Be glad of that.

To be young and not know the evils of integral calculus.

I think you mean the "joys".

[Pranovia]

Call me when you're taking derivatives and integrals of things.

Also, you can have 30k and have a life.

done derivatives last year, no clue what integrals are though

Whaa ... you're a year younger than me... We were taught basic trigonometry at Grade 9...

[Great Kauthar]

done derivatives last year, no clue what integrals are though

Whaa ... you're a year younger than me... We were taught basic trigonometry at Grade 9...

started trig when I was in 12 or 13
fucking hated it, still do

says the person with 14k posts on a forum

Says the person on their third nation.

I was deleted twice because I hurt the feelings of the regressive leftist mods

Buddy, I have more of a life than you do. There is no correlation between post count and suckiness.

Sorry I forgot you're a professional kautharologist and know everything about my social life

And here we discover there's such thing as fourth degree burns.[/quote]

[Arlathan and the Dales]

Sorry I forgot you're a professional kautharologist and know everything about my social life .

Ah, but it is entirely okay for you to do exactly the same based on their post count, aye?

I was deleted twice because I hurt the feelings of the regressive leftist mods

Now, I do not know the details, but it was probably because of continual rule breaking, despite what your persecution complex may lead you to believe.

[Kelinfort]

Whaa ... you're a year younger than me... We were taught basic trigonometry at Grade 9...

started trig when I was in 12 or 13
fucking hated it, still do

Says the person on their third nation.

I was deleted twice because I hurt the feelings of the regressive leftist mods

Buddy, I have more of a life than you do. There is no correlation between post count and suckiness.

Sorry I forgot you're a professional kautharologist and know everything about my social life

And here we discover there's such thing as fourth degree burns.

[/quote]
Yet you put the effort into making another nation...and just yesterday you proclaimed that you were "done" with Nationstates.

Make up your mind.

[Great Kauthar]

Sorry I forgot you're a professional kautharologist and know everything about my social life .

Ah, but it is entirely okay for you to do exactly the same based on their post count, aye?

I was deleted twice because I hurt the feelings of the regressive leftist mods

Now, I do not know the details, but it was probably because of continual rule breaking, despite what your persecution complex may lead you to believe.

My first nation was deleted because quoting Qur'an verses that show the true side of Islam = trolling and my second nation was deleted because I said I support people protesting Islam as long as no one dies, but that's apparently trolling as well...

started trig when I was in 12 or 13
fucking hated it, still do


I was deleted twice because I hurt the feelings of the regressive leftist mods


Sorry I forgot you're a professional kautharologist and know everything about my social life

And here we discover there's such thing as fourth degree burns.

Yet you put the effort into making another nation...and just yesterday you proclaimed that you were "done" with Nationstates.

Make up your mind.[/quote]
I stayed because I didn't want to upset my fans.

[Arlathan and the Dales]

Ah, but it is entirely okay for you to do exactly the same based on their post count, aye?


Now, I do not know the details, but it was probably because of continual rule breaking, despite what your persecution complex may lead you to believe.

My first nation was deleted because quoting Qur'an verses that show the true side of Islam = trolling and my second nation was deleted because I said I support people protesting Islam as long as no one dies, but that's apparently trolling as well....

I can make an educated guess from this post alone that you were actually doing some textbook "all X are Y" trolling about Islam, saying all Muslims are evil marauders or some such. So, brings us back to rulebreaking

The same would happen if I said, for example, all Christians are violent folk who like to shove tent pegs into peoples heads and stone disobedient children by the city gates because of what it says in the Bible, I assure you.

[Great Kauthar]

My first nation was deleted because quoting Qur'an verses that show the true side of Islam = trolling and my second nation was deleted because I said I support people protesting Islam as long as no one dies, but that's apparently trolling as well....

I can make an educated guess from this post alone that you were actually doing some textbook "all X are Y" trolling about Islam, saying all Muslims are evil marauders or some such. So, brings us back to rulebreaking

The same would happen if I said, for example, all Christians are violent folk who like to shove tent pegs into peoples heads and stone disobedient children by the city gates because of what it says in the Bible, I assure you.

By your language I can conclude that you aren't a new player to NS and I am now very curious as to who your main or old nation is? And I never said that lul, I just linked verses of the Qur'an. It was about Islam not Muslims.

[Kelinfort]

Ah, but it is entirely okay for you to do exactly the same based on their post count, aye?


Now, I do not know the details, but it was probably because of continual rule breaking, despite what your persecution complex may lead you to believe.

My first nation was deleted because quoting Qur'an verses that show the true side of Islam = trolling and my second nation was deleted because I said I support people protesting Islam as long as no one dies, but that's apparently trolling as well...

Yet you put the effort into making another nation...and just yesterday you proclaimed that you were "done" with Nationstates.

Make up your mind.

I stayed because I didn't want to upset my fans.[/quote]
Wise decision, maybe you can be a cuck just like me

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Buddy, I have more of a life than you do. There is no correlation between post count and suckiness.

Sorry I forgot you're a professional kautharologist and know everything about my social life

This is a tad hypocritical, considering you said somebody else had no life because they had more posts, but you insist I don't know anything about your life.

Okay, maybe a bit more than a tad. I'd say it's an assload of hypocrisy.

[Arlathan and the Dales]

I can make an educated guess from this post alone that you were actually doing some textbook "all X are Y" trolling about Islam, saying all Muslims are evil marauders or some such. So, brings us back to rulebreaking

The same would happen if I said, for example, all Christians are violent folk who like to shove tent pegs into peoples heads and stone disobedient children by the city gates because of what it says in the Bible, I assure you.

By your language I can conclude that you aren't a new player to NS and I am now very curious as to who your main or old nation is? And I never said that lul, I just linked verses of the Qur'an. It was about Islam not Muslims.

Many over the years, hardly relevant. Considering your most recent post in the atom bomb thread, saying Islam just says kill everyone not Muslim, I truly cannot fathom why your comments probably warranted mod action.

[Atelia]

@AgeDiscussion

When I was 14 my political thought was merely in pre-modial formation. I picked up Ideologies and ideas without having any deeper understanding of them.

I think Churchills alleged statement bears some truth.

That being said, some of my views were at the bottom of it's essence similar to my current ones. For example I started endorsing Socialism because of my dislike for Materialism and so on.

I did not knew any better. I didn had neither the expierience nor the intellectual honesty, and perhaps most importantly nobody who could have shown me the way. At least now that is different here, something those who are in the search can immensely benefit. Interestingly enough what I am now Today is exactly what I used to loathe and hate back in the Day and yet secretly felt attracted by.

Thinking back on how I was back then, I am not going to blame or look down too harsly at the youngsters amongst us.

tl;dr: We were all at some point there.

I used to be a militant athiest Stalinist. That was from young childhood till my final two years of school when I converted to Orthodox Christianity and became a nationalist. I remember when I was about 10 or 11 we had to write letters to people in Taiwan and I refused because I said I wouldnt write to a rebel province of China. My views havent changed much from those last couple of years.

[The Liberated Territories]

@AgeDiscussion

When I was 14 my political thought was merely in pre-modial formation. I picked up Ideologies and ideas without having any deeper understanding of them.

I think Churchills alleged statement bears some truth.

That being said, some of my views were at the bottom of it's essence similar to my current ones. For example I started endorsing Socialism because of my dislike for Materialism and so on.

I did not knew any better. I didn had neither the expierience nor the intellectual honesty, and perhaps most importantly nobody who could have shown me the way. At least now that is different here, something those who are in the search can immensely benefit. Interestingly enough what I am now Today is exactly what I used to loathe and hate back in the Day and yet secretly felt attracted by.

Thinking back on how I was back then, I am not going to blame or look down too harsly at the youngsters amongst us.

tl;dr: We were all at some point there.

I used to be a militant athiest Stalinist. That was from young childhood till my final two years of school when I converted to Orthodox Christianity and became a nationalist. I remember when I was about 10 or 11 we had to write letters to people in Taiwan and I refused because I said I wouldnt write to a rebel province of China. My views havent changed much from those last couple of years.

Horseshoe theory in action!

What is your opinion on, e.g. National Bolshevism?

[Atelia]

I used to be a militant athiest Stalinist. That was from young childhood till my final two years of school when I converted to Orthodox Christianity and became a nationalist. I remember when I was about 10 or 11 we had to write letters to people in Taiwan and I refused because I said I wouldnt write to a rebel province of China. My views havent changed much from those last couple of years.

Horseshoe theory in action!

What is your opinion on, e.g. National Bolshevism?

We kind of got banned mate. Which is Why I followed Dugin out of the National Bolshevists and into the Eurassianists.

[Calimera II]

are you like 12

I'm 14 and a half

Still young

[Urmanian]

I used to have edgy christian/white nationalist/national Stalinist phases when I was 13-15 too, before the current alt-right wave was even a thing. You guys will eventually grow up too.

[-Mr Money-]

I would argue that Fascism is not right-wing at all. I suppose it is if you follow the distorted left-right spectrum created by Revisionists during the Spanish Civil War, but in reality Fascism is just about as far left as Communism, although Fascists and Communists have an intense hatred of eachother.

I see right wing as the reduction of Government control, the further right you go, the further towards individual autonomy you get (Anarchism). The further left you go, the more Government is increased and the more power is centralised and individual autonomy is reduced (Fascism, Communism, National Socialism).

Also, using this more accurate model, Monarchism can cover both left and right depending on the way it is implemented. If it surveys a purely ceremonial role (Constitutional or Democratic) then it is right wing, but Absolute Monarchy places power over all in the hands of one entity, rendering it authoritarian and left wing.

Thoughts? I'm I a complete loon or is there logic to my arguement?

[Conscentia]

I would argue that Fascism is not right-wing at all. I suppose it is if you follow the distorted left-right spectrum created by Revisionists during the Spanish Civil War, but in reality Fascism is just about as far left as Communism, although Fascists and Communists have an intense hatred of eachother.

I see right wing as the reduction of Government control, the further right you go, the further towards individual autonomy you get (Anarchism). The further left you go, the more Government is increased and the more power is centralised and individual autonomy is reduced (Fascism, Communism, National Socialism).

Also, using this more accurate model, Monarchism can cover both left and right depending on the way it is implemented. If it surveys a purely ceremonial role (Constitutional or Democratic) then it is right wing, but Absolute Monarchy places power over all in the hands of one entity, rendering it authoritarian and left wing.

Thoughts? I'm I a complete loon or is there logic to my arguement?

You have a completely distorted, absurd, biased, and totally ahistorical view of the left-right spectrum. The notion that absolute monarchy is left-wing is the most absurd and ahistorical conclusion you could possibly come up with and should've been a clear indication to you that you're wrong. I'm assuming you're not aware that the left-right scale dates back to the French Revolution, with the original right-wing being the supporters of the Old Regime... you really should do more research.

[Kelinfort]

I would argue that Fascism is not right-wing at all. I suppose it is if you follow the distorted left-right spectrum created by Revisionists during the Spanish Civil War, but in reality Fascism is just about as far left as Communism, although Fascists and Communists have an intense hatred of eachother.

I see right wing as the reduction of Government control, the further right you go, the further towards individual autonomy you get (Anarchism). The further left you go, the more Government is increased and the more power is centralised and individual autonomy is reduced (Fascism, Communism, National Socialism).

Also, using this more accurate model, Monarchism can cover both left and right depending on the way it is implemented. If it surveys a purely ceremonial role (Constitutional or Democratic) then it is right wing, but Absolute Monarchy places power over all in the hands of one entity, rendering it authoritarian and left wing.

Thoughts? I'm I a complete loon or is there logic to my arguement?

I feel like you're trying to minimize the idea that the right wing can be terrible.

[Crockerland]

My first nation was deleted because quoting Qur'an verses that show the true side of Islam = trolling and my second nation was deleted because I said I support people protesting Islam as long as no one dies, but that's apparently trolling as well....

I can make an educated guess from this post alone that you were actually doing some textbook "all X are Y" trolling about Islam, saying all Muslims are evil marauders or some such. So, brings us back to rulebreaking

The same would happen if I said, for example, all Christians are violent folk who like to shove tent pegs into peoples heads and stone disobedient children by the city gates because of what it says in the Bible, I assure you.

The zombie strawman cannot be killed

[Great Kauthar]

I used to have edgy christian/white nationalist/national Stalinist phases when I was 13-15 too, before the current alt-right wave was even a thing. You guys will eventually grow up too.

you're an ancap so when are you going to grow up?

[Dinake]

Sorry I forgot you're a professional kautharologist and know everything about my social life .

Ah, but it is entirely okay for you to do exactly the same based on their post count, aye?

I was deleted twice because I hurt the feelings of the regressive leftist mods

Now, I do not know the details, but it was probably because of continual rule breaking, despite what your persecution complex may lead you to believe.

One of them actually was a mistake, though.
Admittedly, not a "let's persecute the right wingers" type mistake, but a mistake.

[Urmanian]

I used to have edgy christian/white nationalist/national Stalinist phases when I was 13-15 too, before the current alt-right wave was even a thing. You guys will eventually grow up too.

you're an ancap so when are you going to grow up?

Never

[-Mr Money-]

I would argue that Fascism is not right-wing at all. I suppose it is if you follow the distorted left-right spectrum created by Revisionists during the Spanish Civil War, but in reality Fascism is just about as far left as Communism, although Fascists and Communists have an intense hatred of eachother.

I see right wing as the reduction of Government control, the further right you go, the further towards individual autonomy you get (Anarchism). The further left you go, the more Government is increased and the more power is centralised and individual autonomy is reduced (Fascism, Communism, National Socialism).

Also, using this more accurate model, Monarchism can cover both left and right depending on the way it is implemented. If it surveys a purely ceremonial role (Constitutional or Democratic) then it is right wing, but Absolute Monarchy places power over all in the hands of one entity, rendering it authoritarian and left wing.

Thoughts? I'm I a complete loon or is there logic to my arguement?

You have a completely distorted, absurd, biased, and totally ahistorical view of the left-right spectrum. The notion that absolute monarchy is left-wing is the most absurd and ahistorical conclusion you could possibly come up with and should've been a clear indication to you that you're wrong. I'm assuming you're not aware that the left-right scale dates back to the French Revolution, with the original right-wing being the supporters of the Old Regime... you really should do more research.

I am well aware that the original spectrum originated from this period, but this model is far too simplistic and not reflective at all on the events following the enlightenment and 20th century politics, never mind the nature of coercion. My point is that since the rise of individuality and enlightenment philosophy after the French Revolution and Leftist Revisionism during the Spanish Civil War, the idea of the right wing believing in individual liberty and the left believing in collectivism has been corrupted over time by Leftists in order to discredit their enemies and create an over simplistic view of political philosophy. I maintain my position that Absolute Monarchy is left wing because it actively maintains social coercion and suppression of individual representation. The creation of an absolute authority runs perfectly in line with the leftist philosophy that people must be controlled by a higher order and that individual rights must be suppressed.

If you are looking for a good example of what I mean, take a look at this, it explains thing very well in my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsVXqGX_Vx8

[Dinake]

You have a completely distorted, absurd, biased, and totally ahistorical view of the left-right spectrum. The notion that absolute monarchy is left-wing is the most absurd and ahistorical conclusion you could possibly come up with and should've been a clear indication to you that you're wrong. I'm assuming you're not aware that the left-right scale dates back to the French Revolution, with the original right-wing being the supporters of the Old Regime... you really should do more research.

I am well aware that the original spectrum originated from this period, but this model is far too simplistic and not reflective at all on the events following the enlightenment and 20th century politics, never mind the nature of coercion. My point is that since the rise of individuality and enlightenment philosophy after the French Revolution and Leftist Revisionism during the Spanish Civil War, the idea of the right wing believing in individual liberty and the left believing in collectivism has been corrupted over time by Leftists in order to discredit their enemies and create an over simplistic view of political philosophy. I maintain my position that Absolute Monarchy is left wing because it actively maintains social coercion and suppression of individual representation. The creation of an absolute authority runs perfectly in line with the leftist philosophy that people must be controlled by a higher order and that individual rights must be suppressed.

If you are looking for a good example of what I mean, take a look at this, it explains thing very well in my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsVXqGX_Vx8

Except right and left have never referred to "maximum individuality" and "maximum collectivism". That idea literally didn't exist until well after the spanish civil war and corruption by leftists.