NATION

PASSWORD

Necessitating Violence

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Comcaliph
Diplomat
 
Posts: 730
Founded: May 17, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Comcaliph » Sat May 21, 2016 3:53 pm

Valyrian Freeholds wrote:
Comcaliph wrote:Or they should stop being fat, or stop flying on planes. Being fat is in a lot of occasions a choice, planes are built like that to be technically better.


But why should a minority who face hardship daily in the form of small doors and seats have to change for a majority? That's just sick

I think there are less planes than fat people. :p


If it provides an advantage to the majority, then leeway can be given, but the fact is, technologically, it's advantageous for planes to be designed like that. It is not advantageous to live in an Aryan society.

User avatar
Luminesa
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 60405
Founded: Dec 09, 2014
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Luminesa » Sat May 21, 2016 3:53 pm

Trying to stop violence with more violence is simply going to cause a war.

Violence has come to be expected, in riots and in shootings and in massacres everywhere.

If you want to surprise people, and to really get their attention, show them love.

Treat others the way you want to be treated.
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. :3
Unofficial #1 fan of the Who Dat Nation.
"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
Pray for Ukraine, Wear Sunflowers In Your Hair

User avatar
Comcaliph
Diplomat
 
Posts: 730
Founded: May 17, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Comcaliph » Sat May 21, 2016 3:54 pm

Luminesa wrote:Trying to stop violence with more violence is simply going to cause a war.

Violence has come to be expected, in riots and in shootings and in massacres everywhere.

If you want to surprise people, and to really get their attention, show them love.

Treat others the way you want to be treated.

I think if you tried to hug Hitler he'd have you shot

User avatar
Quokkastan
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1913
Founded: Dec 21, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Quokkastan » Sat May 21, 2016 3:55 pm

Luminesa wrote:Trying to stop violence with more violence is simply going to cause a war.

Violence has come to be expected, in riots and in shootings and in massacres everywhere.

If you want to surprise people, and to really get their attention, show them love.

Treat others the way you want to be treated.

You should all listen the Christian. Their movement is as successful as it is almost entirely because of how much they enjoy letting people beat them up.
Give us this day our daily thread.
And forgive us our flames, as we forgive those who flame against us.
And lead us not into trolling, but deliver us from spambots.
For thine is the website, and the novels, and the glory. Forever and ever.
In Violent's name we pray. Submit.

User avatar
Aelex
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 11398
Founded: Jun 05, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Aelex » Sat May 21, 2016 3:55 pm

Luminesa wrote:Trying to stop violence with more violence is simply going to cause a war.

Violence has come to be expected, in riots and in shootings and in massacres everywhere.

If you want to surprise people, and to really get their attention, show them love.

Treat others the way you want to be treated.

B-B-But... That would mean actually using your brain and thinking ability rather than resorting to mindless violence, and as we all know, reason is nothing but a tool of oppression!
Citoyen Français. Bonapartiste Républicain (aka De Gaule's Gaullisme) with Keynesian leanings on economics. Latin Christian.

User avatar
Valyrian Freeholds
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1370
Founded: May 05, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Valyrian Freeholds » Sat May 21, 2016 3:55 pm

Comcaliph wrote:
Valyrian Freeholds wrote:
But why should a minority who face hardship daily in the form of small doors and seats have to change for a majority? That's just sick

I think there are less planes than fat people. :p


If it provides an advantage to the majority, then leeway can be given, but the fact is, technologically, it's advantageous for planes to be designed like that. It is not advantageous to live in an Aryan society.


Given time the number of people in an aryan society would surpass the number of people who were in a pre-aryan society, then it would be advantageous
For: Capitalism, Third Way Politics, Authoritarianism, Globalization, Individualism, Freedom of speech, Secular Government, Egalitarianism, Meritocracy, Social Housing, Civic Nationalism, Keynesian Capitalism, Bees, Social Democracy
Meh: Stalinism, Maoism, Russia, NATO, Iran, Fascism
Against: Communism, Welfare Chauvinism,Diversity quotas, Anarchy, Uninformed Electorate, Hereditary positions, Trump
Is it bees?! IS IT BEES?!!!


If we're right, people lose homes. People lose jobs. People lose retirement savings, people lose pensions. You know what I hate about f*cking banking? It reduces people to numbers. Here's a number - every 1% unemployment goes up, 40,000 people die, did you know that? - The Big Short

User avatar
Imperium Britannicum
Envoy
 
Posts: 248
Founded: Apr 25, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Imperium Britannicum » Sat May 21, 2016 3:56 pm

Comcaliph wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Trying to stop violence with more violence is simply going to cause a war.

Violence has come to be expected, in riots and in shootings and in massacres everywhere.

If you want to surprise people, and to really get their attention, show them love.

Treat others the way you want to be treated.

I think if you tried to hug Hitler he'd have you shot


Hitler didn't rise to power through violence. He tried to, and failed miserably. You should take a leaf out of his book when it comes to seizing power.
The Empire is law. Law is sacred.
Cowardice isn't tolerated here.
I do use NS stats because I am not stupid.
If you ever think your nation is better than Great Britain, listen to this.
"The best part about conquering the globe was putting to death the communists."- King George VII
Capitalism, authoritarianism, patriotism, morality, capital and corporal punishment, Brexit, Donald Trump.
Corporatism, Socialism, open borders, alt-right, the idea that there are more than two genders.

User avatar
Comcaliph
Diplomat
 
Posts: 730
Founded: May 17, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Comcaliph » Sat May 21, 2016 3:57 pm

Valyrian Freeholds wrote:
Comcaliph wrote:I think there are less planes than fat people. :p


If it provides an advantage to the majority, then leeway can be given, but the fact is, technologically, it's advantageous for planes to be designed like that. It is not advantageous to live in an Aryan society.


Given time the number of people in an aryan society would surpass the number of people who were in a pre-aryan society, then it would be advantageous

How would it? In an Aryan society there would be less people.

Also no, diversity is advantageous for DNA, it's why most Royal families are ripe with issues (or definitely used to be) because they limited their gene pool.

User avatar
Quokkastan
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1913
Founded: Dec 21, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Quokkastan » Sat May 21, 2016 3:57 pm

Comcaliph wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Trying to stop violence with more violence is simply going to cause a war.

Violence has come to be expected, in riots and in shootings and in massacres everywhere.

If you want to surprise people, and to really get their attention, show them love.

Treat others the way you want to be treated.

I think if you tried to hug Hitler he'd have you shot

Why? Did Hitler hate hugs?

I think you're projecting teenage misanthropy onto others.
Give us this day our daily thread.
And forgive us our flames, as we forgive those who flame against us.
And lead us not into trolling, but deliver us from spambots.
For thine is the website, and the novels, and the glory. Forever and ever.
In Violent's name we pray. Submit.

User avatar
MERIZoC
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 23694
Founded: Dec 05, 2013
Left-wing Utopia

Postby MERIZoC » Sat May 21, 2016 3:57 pm

Quokkastan wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Trying to stop violence with more violence is simply going to cause a war.

Violence has come to be expected, in riots and in shootings and in massacres everywhere.

If you want to surprise people, and to really get their attention, show them love.

Treat others the way you want to be treated.

You should all listen the Christian. Their movement is as successful as it is almost entirely because of how much they enjoy letting people beat them up.

And...you know...genocide of 2 continents, mass enslavement and conversion of another....all that jazz.

User avatar
Luminesa
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 60405
Founded: Dec 09, 2014
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Luminesa » Sat May 21, 2016 3:57 pm

Comcaliph wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Trying to stop violence with more violence is simply going to cause a war.

Violence has come to be expected, in riots and in shootings and in massacres everywhere.

If you want to surprise people, and to really get their attention, show them love.

Treat others the way you want to be treated.

I think if you tried to hug Hitler he'd have you shot


That is probably true. :/

Now if I had a time machine, maybe I could go back in time and hug kid-Hitler. You know, so maybe he wouldn't turn into an evil fascist dictator. But now I'm going into wishful thinking. -___-

But you know what I mean. :3
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. :3
Unofficial #1 fan of the Who Dat Nation.
"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
Pray for Ukraine, Wear Sunflowers In Your Hair

User avatar
Sorkun
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 154
Founded: Jun 17, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Sorkun » Sat May 21, 2016 3:57 pm

Imperium Britannicum wrote:
Comcaliph wrote:I think if you tried to hug Hitler he'd have you shot


Hitler didn't rise to power through violence. He tried to, and failed miserably. You should take a leaf out of his book when it comes to seizing power.

Why do you have leaves in your books?
Truth is the new hate speech.

User avatar
Comcaliph
Diplomat
 
Posts: 730
Founded: May 17, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Comcaliph » Sat May 21, 2016 3:57 pm

Imperium Britannicum wrote:
Comcaliph wrote:I think if you tried to hug Hitler he'd have you shot


Hitler didn't rise to power through violence. He tried to, and failed miserably. You should take a leaf out of his book when it comes to seizing power.

Don't worry, I've started working on that.

User avatar
Aelex
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 11398
Founded: Jun 05, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Aelex » Sat May 21, 2016 3:57 pm

Comcaliph wrote:I think if you tried to hug Hitler he'd have you shot

Depend. If you're white, blond and blue-eyed; you may give it a shot!

(Are my puns reaching Sans' level, yet or do I need to sink even deeper into bad stand-up comedy? :p )
Citoyen Français. Bonapartiste Républicain (aka De Gaule's Gaullisme) with Keynesian leanings on economics. Latin Christian.

User avatar
Olerand
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13169
Founded: Sep 18, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Olerand » Sat May 21, 2016 3:58 pm

Is this serious? Because if it is, then I don't believe I have the right words to describe how terrible of an idea this is. If not, then carry on.
French citizen. Still a Socialist Party member. Ségolène Royal 2019, I guess Actually I might vote la France Insoumise.

Qui suis-je?:
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever

User avatar
Quokkastan
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1913
Founded: Dec 21, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Quokkastan » Sat May 21, 2016 3:58 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Quokkastan wrote:You should all listen the Christian. Their movement is as successful as it is almost entirely because of how much they enjoy letting people beat them up.

And...you know...genocide of 2 continents, mass enslavement and conversion of another....all that jazz.

Yeah, but then never would have been in a position to do that if it weren't for all the early masochism.
Give us this day our daily thread.
And forgive us our flames, as we forgive those who flame against us.
And lead us not into trolling, but deliver us from spambots.
For thine is the website, and the novels, and the glory. Forever and ever.
In Violent's name we pray. Submit.

User avatar
Comcaliph
Diplomat
 
Posts: 730
Founded: May 17, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Comcaliph » Sat May 21, 2016 3:58 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Comcaliph wrote:I think if you tried to hug Hitler he'd have you shot


That is probably true. :/

Now if I had a time machine, maybe I could go back in time and hug kid-Hitler. You know, so maybe he wouldn't turn into an evil fascist dictator. But now I'm going into wishful thinking. -___-

But you know what I mean. :3

Rookie time travel mistake, you cannot change the past because if you hugged Hitler and stopped him rising, then you would never have had this conversation motivating you to go back and hug Hitler, therefore you would never have hugged him leading him to rise to power.

User avatar
Imperium Britannicum
Envoy
 
Posts: 248
Founded: Apr 25, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Imperium Britannicum » Sat May 21, 2016 3:59 pm

Aelex wrote:
Comcaliph wrote:I think if you tried to hug Hitler he'd have you shot

Depend. If you're white, blond and blue-eyed; you may give it a shot!

(Are my puns reaching Sans' level, yet or do I need to sink even deeper into bad stand-up comedy? :p )


Not at Sans' level, but better than Russell Howard.
The Empire is law. Law is sacred.
Cowardice isn't tolerated here.
I do use NS stats because I am not stupid.
If you ever think your nation is better than Great Britain, listen to this.
"The best part about conquering the globe was putting to death the communists."- King George VII
Capitalism, authoritarianism, patriotism, morality, capital and corporal punishment, Brexit, Donald Trump.
Corporatism, Socialism, open borders, alt-right, the idea that there are more than two genders.

User avatar
Aelex
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 11398
Founded: Jun 05, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Aelex » Sat May 21, 2016 3:59 pm

Sorkun wrote:
Imperium Britannicum wrote:
Hitler didn't rise to power through violence. He tried to, and failed miserably. You should take a leaf out of his book when it comes to seizing power.

Why do you have leaves in your books?

Metaphors. Learn them, live them, love them.
Citoyen Français. Bonapartiste Républicain (aka De Gaule's Gaullisme) with Keynesian leanings on economics. Latin Christian.

User avatar
Comcaliph
Diplomat
 
Posts: 730
Founded: May 17, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Comcaliph » Sat May 21, 2016 3:59 pm

Aelex wrote:
Comcaliph wrote:I think if you tried to hug Hitler he'd have you shot

Depend. If you're white, blond and blue-eyed; you may give it a shot!

(Are my puns reaching Sans' level, yet or do I need to sink even deeper into bad stand-up comedy? :p )

(There's no telling how low you could sink if you tried hard enough :p )

User avatar
Luminesa
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 60405
Founded: Dec 09, 2014
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Luminesa » Sat May 21, 2016 3:59 pm

Quokkastan wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Trying to stop violence with more violence is simply going to cause a war.

Violence has come to be expected, in riots and in shootings and in massacres everywhere.

If you want to surprise people, and to really get their attention, show them love.

Treat others the way you want to be treated.

You should all listen the Christian. Their movement is as successful as it is almost entirely because of how much they enjoy letting people beat them up.


Hey! I don't enjoy getting beat up! I just say love is the better option than trying to start more riots and trying to tear everything down. :/
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. :3
Unofficial #1 fan of the Who Dat Nation.
"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
Pray for Ukraine, Wear Sunflowers In Your Hair

User avatar
Tekeristan
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5344
Founded: Mar 08, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Tekeristan » Sat May 21, 2016 4:00 pm

Uh.. Just don't be violent unless absolutely necessary.. Pretty simple to live by.

The BLM movement is pretty highly criticized and viewed down upon because parts of its members and those that fly its banners have been in riots, looted, and torched cars..

All I'm going to do is point at the civil rights era of non-violence..

User avatar
Luminesa
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 60405
Founded: Dec 09, 2014
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Luminesa » Sat May 21, 2016 4:00 pm

Comcaliph wrote:
Luminesa wrote:
That is probably true. :/

Now if I had a time machine, maybe I could go back in time and hug kid-Hitler. You know, so maybe he wouldn't turn into an evil fascist dictator. But now I'm going into wishful thinking. -___-

But you know what I mean. :3

Rookie time travel mistake, you cannot change the past because if you hugged Hitler and stopped him rising, then you would never have had this conversation motivating you to go back and hug Hitler, therefore you would never have hugged him leading him to rise to power.


*Brain breaks.*
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. :3
Unofficial #1 fan of the Who Dat Nation.
"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
Pray for Ukraine, Wear Sunflowers In Your Hair

User avatar
Aelex
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 11398
Founded: Jun 05, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Aelex » Sat May 21, 2016 4:01 pm

Comcaliph wrote:
Luminesa wrote:
That is probably true. :/

Now if I had a time machine, maybe I could go back in time and hug kid-Hitler. You know, so maybe he wouldn't turn into an evil fascist dictator. But now I'm going into wishful thinking. -___-

But you know what I mean. :3

Rookie time travel mistake, you cannot change the past because if you hugged Hitler and stopped him rising, then you would never have had this conversation motivating you to go back and hug Hitler, therefore you would never have hugged him leading him to rise to power.

Not if you believe in the multiverse theory, in that case, by time travelling and hugging Hitler, you could actually create a WW2 free universe even if our own timeline wouldn't change.
Citoyen Français. Bonapartiste Républicain (aka De Gaule's Gaullisme) with Keynesian leanings on economics. Latin Christian.

User avatar
Comcaliph
Diplomat
 
Posts: 730
Founded: May 17, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Comcaliph » Sat May 21, 2016 4:01 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Comcaliph wrote:Rookie time travel mistake, you cannot change the past because if you hugged Hitler and stopped him rising, then you would never have had this conversation motivating you to go back and hug Hitler, therefore you would never have hugged him leading him to rise to power.


*Brain breaks.*

Above all, i am a nerd. :lol2:

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Aguaria Major, Bombadil, Bovad, Chessorg, Dimetrodon Empire, El Lazaro, Grinning Dragon, Ifreann, La Cocina del Bodhi, Necroghastia, New Texas Republic, Ors Might, Philjia, Port Caverton, Rusozak, Shrillland, The Grand Fifth Imperium

Advertisement

Remove ads