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Is autism caused by vaccines?

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Do vaccines cause autism

Yes
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No
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Don't care
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Is autism caused by vaccines?

Postby ADST World » Wed May 18, 2016 4:19 pm

Is the learning disability known as autism caused by vaccines? Personally I don't think so. The scientific evidence is very much against it, and there are many stories of parents who avoided vaccines due to paranoia, but their children developed autism anyways.

Also, there are many autistic people out there who themselves admit that they think there is no correlation. These are people with firsthand experience of what it is like, and who also think that there is no link. Personally, due to the overwhelming evidence and witnesses in favour of there being no link, I suggest everybody go get vaccinated now.
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Postby The East Marches » Wed May 18, 2016 4:19 pm

Its caused by too much 4chan.
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Postby Miraaki » Wed May 18, 2016 4:20 pm

A. Needs a longer OP or this will be almost certainly locked by the mods

B. No
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Postby ADST World » Wed May 18, 2016 4:20 pm

The East Marches wrote:Its caused by too much 4chan.

I feel as though you are joking. if not, what evidence is there that the two are connected? This is a pretty unique theory.
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Postby Italios » Wed May 18, 2016 4:20 pm

IIRC, the professor who published the study that vaccines cause autism later admitted the results were wrong. So due to a complete lack of evidence - no.

Also, may want to work on the OP a bit.
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Postby ADST World » Wed May 18, 2016 4:21 pm

Miraaki wrote:A. Needs a longer OP or this will be almost certainly locked by the mods

B. No

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Postby Arsala » Wed May 18, 2016 4:21 pm

For a second lets say that it does cause autism even though there is astounding evidence that it doesn't. What do you want an autistic kid or a dead kid. If you'd rather have a dead kid then go ahead and don't vaccinate because it's basically what your actions are telling others that you'd rather have a dead kid than a kid with autism.

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Postby Costa Fierro » Wed May 18, 2016 4:22 pm

Unfortunately, it's caused by the wrong kinds of people reproducing. Thankfully science is coming up with ways of reversing autism in the womb.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Wed May 18, 2016 4:22 pm

ADST World wrote:Is the learning disability known as autism caused by vaccines? Personally I don't think so. The scientific evidence is very much against it, and there are many stories of parents who avoided vaccines due to paranoia, but their children developed autism anyways.

No. End of discussion.
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Postby Risottia » Wed May 18, 2016 4:22 pm

This link between autism and vaccines is pure bullshit (demonstrably so) started by a quack (proven to be one). It's about time we dropped it.

Also, autism isn't a learning disability.
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Postby Eclius » Wed May 18, 2016 4:22 pm

No, and frankly, I think that vaccination should be mandatory
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Postby The East Marches » Wed May 18, 2016 4:22 pm

ADST World wrote:
The East Marches wrote:Its caused by too much 4chan.

I feel as though you are joking. if not, what evidence is there that the two are connected? This is a pretty unique theory.


It was a bit of a joke but I am sure if you do a study, you'll find 4chan and autism are linked somehow.
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Postby Hetalia Dakota 2 II » Wed May 18, 2016 4:23 pm

There can be arguments to be made that vaccines can cause harm to immune compromised children who may also have mental conditions that can worsen said conditions and tendencies.
It's not a cause however and keep in mind it's important the healthy 99% is vaccinated so those at risk who are unable to and most vulnerable aren't needlessly exposed.
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Postby The East Marches » Wed May 18, 2016 4:23 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:Unfortunately, it's caused by the wrong kinds of people reproducing. Thankfully science is coming up with ways of reversing autism in the womb.


That would be fucking freaking fuck fucking cool. Do you have a link?
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Wed May 18, 2016 4:24 pm

Eclius wrote:No, and frankly, I think that vaccination should be mandatory

I would agree, except it fuels paranoia amongst parents. When you make it mandatory to vaccinate your child, parents start questioning the true motives. It's the same thing with outlawing hate speech, it only adds more fuel to the fire.
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Postby Benuty » Wed May 18, 2016 4:25 pm

The evidence is a resounding no.
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed May 18, 2016 4:27 pm

Eclius wrote:No, and frankly, I think that vaccination should be mandatory


With of course the rare exceptions where people are allergic to the vaccine or the vaccine is too dangerous for them to take (compromised immune system). Herd immunity is very important to protecting those who cannot gain the immunity.
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Postby ADST World » Wed May 18, 2016 4:27 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:Unfortunately, it's caused by the wrong kinds of people reproducing. Thankfully science is coming up with ways of reversing autism in the womb.


That would be fucking cool. Do you have a link?

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Postby Costa Fierro » Wed May 18, 2016 4:28 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:Unfortunately, it's caused by the wrong kinds of people reproducing. Thankfully science is coming up with ways of reversing autism in the womb.


That would be fucking cool. Do you have a link?


I thought it was the womb, but apparently it can be done with adults.

Which is fantastic news.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed May 18, 2016 4:28 pm

In short, no.

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Postby Salandriagado » Wed May 18, 2016 4:28 pm

ADST World wrote:
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That would be fucking cool. Do you have a link?

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Source that shit.
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ADST World wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed May 18, 2016 4:28 pm

ADST World wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
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Swearing is not banned by the mods. This by the way could be considered mods as weapons.
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